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PotC storyline question
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pjammer
Active Member
:brick: Ok what I can recall was they mention how it was ironic how they killed Bootstrap. It took the blood of a crew member to break the curse and Bootstrap was not cursed. Meerly having the gold was not ground enough to be immortal. I believe you had to physically take the gold from the chest to become immortal. B/c when Elizabeth and Will possed the gold it did not make them cursed. However when Jack or the Monkey took the gold from the chest it did curse them. It is possible for Bootstrap to have gotten the gold from a cursed crew member (therefore not making him cursed) then mailed it away to seal their doom. I thought Barborsa mention that if they hadn't killed Bootstrap they could have broken the curse without searching for all the coins.
I just need to watch the movie again now.
I just need to watch the movie again now.
goofyguy
Member
Okay … after thinking about this for a while, here's my timeline of events:
· All the pirates we see as cursed in the movie remove at least one piece of the gold from the chest.
· Bootstrap also removes a piece of gold and therefore is cursed as well.
· The pirates realize they are cursed, but don't know how to remove the curse yet.
· Bootstrap is tossed overboard.
· The pirates discover that in order to remove the curse the gold, along with the blood of each person who took the gold, must be put in the chest. (My justification for this is that Sparrow cut his own hand when he tossed his piece of gold back, thus contributing his blood).
· The pirates get back every piece and contribute all the blood from everyone except for Bootstrap.
· The events of "Pirates of the Caribbean" take place.
· All the pirates we see as cursed in the movie remove at least one piece of the gold from the chest.
· Bootstrap also removes a piece of gold and therefore is cursed as well.
· The pirates realize they are cursed, but don't know how to remove the curse yet.
· Bootstrap is tossed overboard.
· The pirates discover that in order to remove the curse the gold, along with the blood of each person who took the gold, must be put in the chest. (My justification for this is that Sparrow cut his own hand when he tossed his piece of gold back, thus contributing his blood).
· The pirates get back every piece and contribute all the blood from everyone except for Bootstrap.
· The events of "Pirates of the Caribbean" take place.
Moustronaut
New Member
....in the mean time, bootstrap in on the floor of the ocean waiting for his chaing or whatever to rust away or whatever.
bill walks off the bottom of the ocean
curse gets lifted, Bill is now average joe former pirate hell bent on revenge on his crew...
Thus Pirates 2....
Since the sequel has been confirmed, maybe that's just a plot point for future development
bill walks off the bottom of the ocean
curse gets lifted, Bill is now average joe former pirate hell bent on revenge on his crew...
Thus Pirates 2....
Since the sequel has been confirmed, maybe that's just a plot point for future development
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Ok, I have seen it a billion times (film major here) so I can clear things up for people who are confused. The curse is lifted by returning every single piece of gold AND every person who stole gold must give their blood to the chest. Yes, the pirates do bleed, this was shown when Elizabeth stabbed Barbosa. The knife was coated in blood. Also Barbosa explains this in a very quick line toward the end of the film. "Who here has given their blood?" and all the pirates scream. Bootstrap was obviously part of the stealing, otherwise they wouldn't need his blood to lift the curse in the first place. So we know Bootstrap was cursed too. This obviously means that he didn't die under the ocean. Judging by the lack of explanation regarding Bootstraps state when he was dumped, leads me to believe he will be a character in the sequel. We already know that the pirates are very good at walking under water. (This was shown when they, "went for a walk" as Barbosa said.) So it seems like a good deal of forshadowing to me. Spending years down there, he probably devised some sort of plan of escape before the curse was lifted. Expect to see Bootstrap in Pirates 2. Any other questions I can answer?
Timekeeper
Well-Known Member
monkey get off my back
What to do with the evil monkey... in the sequal... If he's been a bad monkey, then we could spank him. If he were Peter Gabriel's monkey, then we would shock him.
The monkey stole a peice of the gold, so the monkey is now cursed and cannot die.
It's like my man Notorious B.I.G. always said, "more monkey, more problems."
Tk
What to do with the evil monkey... in the sequal... If he's been a bad monkey, then we could spank him. If he were Peter Gabriel's monkey, then we would shock him.
The monkey stole a peice of the gold, so the monkey is now cursed and cannot die.
It's like my man Notorious B.I.G. always said, "more monkey, more problems."
Tk
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Perhaps the monkey will appear in some form of computer game. But I believe he has a future in advertising.
Wow! I feel like I just attended a class. Thanks, professor. Will there be a test?
I like the idea of it all being a set-up for the next movie. Very good point. My husband and I have been talking about this issue and he also seemed to think that after all that time underwater that Bootstrap would have been able to figure out a way free himself from the cannon.
And here, when I started this thread, I thought I was just missing something....no idea we'd have such discussions about this! :lol:
Gonna try to see it again this weekend. Can't wait!!
I think you have to be right about Bootstrap being alive. He purposefully sent the medallion to his son in order to curse Barbosa and in his crew for their mutiny against Sparrow. Thus, he had to have been cursed himself. But if I recall correctly, Barbosa discusses how they have searched all over for all the pieces of gold that have left the chest...thus, that could mean, they didn't realize they were cursed till later...but i'm probably wrong about this. Either way you are right Bootstrap is alive.
Moustronaut
New Member
Ah but he's been down there for 10-ish years. It wasn't like he had anything but escape to work on while he was down there.
Timekeeper
Well-Known Member
esquela de film
Hmmmm... I wasn't aware that film school students were concerned with modern Hollywood pop culture. Things must have really changed since, well, let's just say "before." I just hope that Gore hasn't replaced Alfred when it comes to the classroom.
Tk
Hmmmm... I wasn't aware that film school students were concerned with modern Hollywood pop culture. Things must have really changed since, well, let's just say "before." I just hope that Gore hasn't replaced Alfred when it comes to the classroom.
Tk
Moustronaut
New Member
My guess is he escaped some time ago and has been in hiding.
But who knows... we'll have to see what happens when the sequel comes out