Plant based tuna?

[LuvtheGoof]

I would never judge anyone for wanting to eat vegan or vegetarian. My only issue is with the manufacturers calling it "meat or seafood" when it isn't.

 

[LittleBuford]

I would never judge anyone for wanting to eat vegan or vegetarian. My only issue is with the manufacturers calling it "meat or seafood" when it isn't.

As long as they’re not trying to fool anyone, I don’t see the problem. It helps people like me who are looking for meat substitutes to identify them. What alternative terminology could they use in your opinion?

 

[Prince-1]

I would never judge anyone for wanting to eat vegan or vegetarian. My only issue is with the manufacturers calling it "meat or seafood" when it isn't.

I guess you have the concerns when you see Almond Milk.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

As long as they’re not trying to fool anyone, I don’t see the problem. It helps people like me who are looking for meat substitutes to identify them. What alternative terminology could they use in your opinion?

Why not just tell it like it is? Here's an example:

The word veggie is much smaller than the all caps MEAT. It's NOT MEAT, so they should never have that larger than the word veggie. So yes, they are trying to fool people. Now, if they add, in smaller letters than veggie - meat substitute - so it isn't the main font, that might be ok. There is no mention that this is a meat substitute anywhere, and to me, that is completely false advertising.

Again, I couldn't care less if someone wants to eat this, but it is not MEAT and should not have that word in bold letters on the front. MEAT comes from cows, pigs, etc. Just my humble opinion of course, and I know most here will probably disagree with me, and that's ok.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

I guess you have the concerns when you see Almond Milk.

True, as the traditional word "milk" brings up pictures of cows and goats. Not plants. Again, JMHO. Guess I'm just an old fogy.

 

[LittleBuford]

There is no mention that this is a meat substitute anywhere, and to me, that is completely false advertising.

The word “veggie” indicates that it isn’t real meat. I take your point regarding font size, but it should be borne in mind that Morning Star is a veggie food brand, so the thing they’re trying to emphasise is that this particular veggie burger is closer to meat than the other burgers they sell. As a consumer of these kinds of products, I welcome such signposting.

Is there any evidence that meat-eaters are being misled by substitutes that include the word “meat”, or is this a theoretical problem?

 

[LittleBuford]

A few more terms that should be objected to on the same basis: “peanut butter”, “turkey bacon”, and “nonalcoholic beer”.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

The word “veggie” indicates that it isn’t real meat. I take your point regarding font size, but it should be borne in mind that Morning Star is a veggie food brand, so the thing they’re trying to emphasise is that this particular veggie burger is closer to meat than the other burgers they sell. As a consumer of these kinds of products, I welcome such signposting.

Is there any evidence that meat-eaters are being misled by substitutes that include the word “meat”, or is this a theoretical problem?

I would have to agree that this is a theoretical problem and that I'm just an old fogy.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

A few more terms that should be objected to on the same basis: “peanut butter”, “turkey bacon”, and “nonalcoholic beer”.

Yup, have to agree with all of those.

 

[Kamikaze]

Growing up in the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, which has a very big focus on health, plant-based foods is is nothing new. My grandparents were eating it back in the 60’s. Here is an article I found interesting

https://www.soyinfocenter.com/HSS/loma_linda_foods.php

You can't compare soy/tofu to the 'modern' plant based stuff.

 

[NelleBelle]

I understand people not eating meat for whatever reason. But why try and make everything meat like ?
If I go to a restaurant and see a "faux meat" burger or a vegetarian dish I am more likely to pick the second one.

For me, it depends on what the vegetarian dish has in it. If it's got mushrooms in it (like a portobello Wellington, or Shepard's pie with mushrooms--it's a hard pass because they kitchen generally can't alter that for me in most places. So if there's a second "meat" option, I go with that.

I don’t think everything should be made meat-like, but I’m glad a lot of things are. I personally dislike the classic bean-based veggie burger and would much rather eat one that tastes more like real meat. That doesn’t mean that the more traditional veggie options should be phased out, of course.

I agree, although some are so carb-heavy that they totally do a number on my blood sugar and I'm chasing it with insulin for hours. Not quite as bad with things like "impossible"

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

I guess you have the concerns when you see Almond Milk.

 

[KeithVH]

 

[NelleBelle]

You can't compare soy/tofu to the 'modern' plant based stuff.

It's not exactly the same, but it definitely was the precursor. The foods that Worthington, Loma Linda, and Morningstar Farms made/make are primarily soy protein or gluten-based. What is Impossible meat primarily made of? Soy protein (among other things). Granted, the more "realistic" meat-alternatives can be derived of other food bases besides soy (Beyond is primarily pea/brown rice/legume-based, Quorn is mycoprotein-based).

 

[GimpYancIent]

I am no fan of plant based Faux meat, BUT! Tuna is a whole different thing. I see a plant based Faux Tuna far healthier than the real thing. Multiple studies, you can look up whatever you want, start with the FDA, all agree that Tuna is high in mercury levels. Consuming mercury is not a good thing.

 

[Kamikaze]

It's not exactly the same, but it definitely was the precursor. The foods that Worthington, Loma Linda, and Morningstar Farms made/make are primarily soy protein or gluten-based. What is Impossible meat primarily made of? Soy protein (among other things). Granted, the more "realistic" meat-alternatives can be derived of other food bases besides soy (Beyond is primarily pea/brown rice/legume-based, Quorn is mycoprotein-based).

Its not anywhere near the same.

Precursor, sure, in the same way that sh**** 1930s food is the precursor to food made today.

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

I am no fan of plant based Faux meat, BUT! Tuna is a whole different thing. I see a plant based Faux Tuna far healthier than the real thing. Multiple studies, you can look up whatever you want, start with the FDA, all agree that Tuna is high in mercury levels. Consuming mercury is not a good thing.

Am sure you can find a reason plant based tuna is bad for you. Everything in moderation is the key.

 

[Tom P.]

Am I the only one who just hates the term "plant-based"? Can't we come up with some better descriptor? "Yes, I would like a serving of plant please."

 

[Tom P.]

I guess you have the concerns when you see Almond Milk.

Yes. I do. I do not believe anything should be permitted to be labeled as "milk" if it did not come from a mammal. I'm totally serious. Calling something "almond milk," "soy milk," etc. is just factually wrong and, IMHO, amounts to false advertising.

 

[LittleBuford]

Am I the only one who just hates the term "plant-based"? Can't we come up with some better descriptor? "Yes, I would like a serving of plant please."

I myself prefer “vegan”, but I suppose “plant-based” sounds more broadly marketable and avoids some of the negative baggage that unfortunately come with veganism.