PHOTOS - Disney reveals new lobby design and Trader Sam's lounge for the Polynesian

righttrack

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I'm sure it's going to be beautifully themed. I'm sure it's going to be open and airy and ease congestion in the lobby. I'm also sure I will always be bitter that they tore out the beautiful water feature that is at the center of so many memories from my childhood.

We took pictures of our kids there every year :(
 

Sage of Time

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From @AtDisneyAgain on twitter:

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That rock work wasn't in the concept art. I sense mini waterfalls to make up for, you know, ripping the heart and soul out of the place?
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
If they add a water feature of any sort, even this small size, that kind of debunks any statements about problems maintaining or fixing the old one. Whether it be due to mold, "swamp water" or any other problems the old one had...

Scale very much is a factor still in that kind of topic. Be it environmental impact, or complexity, or serviceability. Not sure where you get this binary type of thinking about this.
 

networkpro

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If they add a water feature of any sort, even this small size, that kind of debunks any statements about problems maintaining or fixing the old one. Whether it be due to mold, "swamp water" or any other problems the old one had...

It still doesnt discount the insolation requirements of the vegetation that the new skylights fail to pass.
 

hpyhnt 1000

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From @AtDisneyAgain on twitter:

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That rock work wasn't in the concept art. I sense mini waterfalls to make up for, you know, ripping the heart and soul out of the place?

Is that brown thing on the right a model of what the final thing will look like? Looks like they're going for a lava mound sort of look with a statue of some kind on top.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Scale very much is a factor still in that kind of topic. Be it environmental impact, or complexity, or serviceability. Not sure where you get this binary type of thinking about this.
Don't be absurd, I never said scale wasn't a factor. But there are still going to be problems, even if on a smaller scale. Unless they changed the water source and addressed the other problems stated.

Though it could be possible that this isn't going to be a fountain at all, but some sort of trench for new plants.

It still doesnt discount the insolation requirements of the vegetation that the new skylights fail to pass.
The concept art still shows a smaller enclosure with vegetation. Unless they're going for fake plants or something (which is possible and all but this would have been possible with the original centerpiece as well).
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Don't be absurd, I never said scale wasn't a factor

How is someone to interpret these words then?

"If they add a water feature of any sort, even this small size,"

'of any sort..' 'even this small'

This is not freaking plutonium they are working with. And putting a bowl of bay lake water on your counter isn't going to soil the GCH.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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This isn't a bowl though. It's not as big as the original feature by any stretch, but it's probably large enough to have an impact if they didn't address the water quality and let it also rot away for 20 years without proper maintenance.

And putting a bowl of bay lake water on your counter isn't going to soil the GCH.
On a less serious note however, I would say this statement is debatable. Even a drop of that stuff is nasty as all hell, and I don't want it on me (though it's not exactly feasible to avoid if you enjoy water rides at WDW). :p
 

Sage of Time

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Is that brown thing on the right a model of what the final thing will look like? Looks like they're going for a lava mound sort of look with a statue of some kind on top.
The original concept art has a TINY version of this. Some rocks, some water, and then the statue.

This looks much larger. At least the rock work does.
 

Sage of Time

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Scale very much is a factor still in that kind of topic. Be it environmental impact, or complexity, or serviceability. Not sure where you get this binary type of thinking about this.
Conversely, if a multibillion dollar company could keep up a small fountain, they could keep up a large one.

One that was historical and beloved.

You know, logically speaking.
 

ToTBellHop

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Conversely, if a multibillion dollar company could keep up a small fountain, they could keep up a large one.

One that was historical and beloved.

You know, logically speaking.
Everyone knows that argument is complete BS. If they had wanted to keep the fountain, they would have refurbished it and kept it. That's not the look they chose to go with.
 

Clamman73

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The original concept art has a TINY version of this. Some rocks, some water, and then the statue.

This looks much larger. At least the rock work does.
I think it's about the same. The art concept has a pic looking at straight on and it looks kind of small, but with other current pictures being shown around today, you can see the spacing of the corners of the new fountain in relation to the corners of the stonework surrounding the bottoms of the the large support columns are basically how it looks in the concept art.

It's the form of the fountain that looks to be different from the concept, but they kept the tiki figure for on top.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
This isn't a bowl though. It's not as big as the original feature by any stretch, but it's probably large enough to have an impact if they didn't address the water quality and let it also rot away for 20 years without proper maintenance.

Not really. The amount of humidity put off by the people going through the space or opening the doors would probably far outweigh any evaporation from that kind of water feature. My point was it's rather stupid to dismiss or say the same thing will happen with any other water feature... simply because of what happened with the massive one that was removed.

On a less serious note however, I would say this statement is debatable. Even a drop of that stuff is nasty as all hell, and I don't want it on me (though it's not exactly feasible to avoid if you enjoy water rides at WDW). :p

It's not really at all... swimming in it's fine. And particulates don't evaporate out of water. The issue is more if the system can not be maintained reasonably or is left unkept.
 

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