PHOTOS - Disney reveals new lobby design and Trader Sam's lounge for the Polynesian

[Cesar R M]

And who says what Disney does has to make sense? They do what they want. Period. They probably don't even know truth from lies when it comes to certain things.

Not sure why tikiman is being attacked over simply stating what he was told. Whether people believe it or not is on them. And if someone knows better, then by all means, post away.

I have no idea why he is getting attacked too, the issue is still on Disney's side. @tikiman as nothing to do with what Disney does/decides.

 

[raymusiccity]

On my last trip my Dole Whip melted faster than it use to.

"......and it ruined your vacation and next time you'll buy your frozen confection at Uni !!"

 

[raymusiccity]

Here are some pictures I pulled from the internet. This is one of the largest hotels (#29, I think) in the world which I hope gives people an idea of how extensive the damage was. None of the water in the third picture is supposed to be there.

That's just karma from Gaylord bulldozing their Opryland Theme Park (RIP).

 

[Mawg]

"......and it ruined your vacation and next time you'll buy your frozen confection at Uni !!"

No, actually, I think it was just hotter out.

 

[kpilcher]

That you're willing to share what information you can is awesome, but to let on that you know something that you won't tell us comes across as patronizing.
I completely respect your decision not to share with us information shared with you in confidence, but in the future it would probably be best not to tell us this.

I disagree. As a professional journalist, I understand the need to protect my sources. Sometimes, ethically, you just have to. The fact Tikiman & others in the know share what they can is truly to the benefit of anyone interested in learning what is really going on. Tikiman has successfully predicted / warned us what was going to happen to the Poly for, LITERALLY, years now. And, despite the fact Disney can change its mind faster than a runaway bride, his information has proven to be at least 90% accurate. I thank him for sharing what he knows. To not want to hear what is, at least, being considered (from reliable places) is to prefer being an ostrich: fearful, with your head in the sand. NO ONE on this site is right 100% of the time. (See my comment about Disney changing its mind - and Disney's not alone). But if it is from one of the handful of people here who really has some insider knowledge, I find it beyond valuable and I thank that handful for their informed, intelligent posts. Tikiman very much included.

 

[Bairstow]

I disagree. As a professional journalist, I understand the need to protect my sources. Sometimes, ethically, you just have to..

Sure, but would you ever write/report a story that says, "a confidential source shared with me some information that I can't tell you"?
Of course not.
It's one thing to protect your sources, but it's another offer that you have information without actually divulging the information. If you're not going to share it, what purpose does it serve to mention it in the first place?

 

[crispy]

That's just karma from Gaylord bulldozing their Opryland Theme Park (RIP).

We moved here the year after it closed so sadly we never experienced Opryland. I remember everyone derisively calling Oprymills "Shopryland" when it was being built which always cracked me up.

 

[flynnibus]

Would the remaining facts help make things more clear? I’m sure it would but I have no interest in sharing anything more since you think the information is garbage

I said no such thing. I said the stuff shared so far does not make sense as presented. I don't know if you have scrutinized it or just relayed it believing on blind faith based on your relation/trust. You are saying "the sky is green... and I can't say why".

I am patiently waiting for your facts that let us all know the reason behind why they removed it

I never claimed I know why - nor do I need to know why to say something doesn't add up.

I won’t post any more of my lies that I seem to be making up or my close friends are fooling me into believing.

You obviously are easily offended if someone just doesn't blindly follow.

 

[kpilcher]

Sure, but would you ever write/report a story that says, "a confidential source shared with me some information that I can't tell you"?
Of course not.
It's one thing to protect your sources, but it's another offer that you have information without actually divulging the information. If you're not going to share it, what purpose does it serve to mention it in the first place?

Actually, if the subject is/was "important" (as important as anything about a theme park or hotel really is, in context), yes. I would to try and tamp down misinformation. This week, my station quoted "sources" on a major sports deal in Orlando. We don't ever say that lightly (some stations do). To put our reputation on the line like that means we are as right as we can possibly be. Often we consult lawyers before making that statement. Why? Reputation really matters. I believe we all should be careful (as readers/viewers of any medium) to question who is speaking. And I don't fault you or anyone from asking questions. Lord & the Mom know there are plenty of posters who pretend to know a lot. But, despite Flynnibus's intelligent questioning about the UV lighting situation, Tikiman is one of a rare handful here who has proven over years that they know what they are talking about. He is one of a very few here who can say "trust me." that I give some real benefit of the doubt. If that was abused I'd be the first to call it into question. I understand skepticism. BELIEVE ME. It's healthy. And as good as my sources usually are, yeah - when I am asked "Are ya sure?" it often gives me pause to double check I have something right. I have not yet had to personally say on-air or in my blog "trust me." but if I ever did -- I'd make really sure I could back it up.

 

[Kman101]

I still fail to see the big deal in the fact that he can't say everything he was told. I understand throwing it out there that something is known but not saying, but at the same time, really?

 

[aladdin2007]

I still fail to see the big deal in the fact that he can't say everything he was told. I understand throwing it out there that something is known but not saying, but at the same time, really?

Yeah all of the sudden this thread has derailed. I dont understand the attack on tiki, he has shared way more than he has to and has kept us up to date and clarified many things on the Polynesian mess. There is no reason for him to divulge sources or state things he is not allowed to state. He has already gone above and beyond Im sure. We would be lost regarding Poly if it weren't for him.

 

[Cesar R M]

Sure, but would you ever write/report a story that says, "a confidential source shared with me some information that I can't tell you"?
Of course not.
It's one thing to protect your sources, but it's another offer that you have information without actually divulging the information. If you're not going to share it, what purpose does it serve to mention it in the first place?

What if that information was given to very specific group of people.... Thus revealing them, would put in trouble a very small group (aka a "weed out maneuver" to pinpoint who is leaking the information to tikiman)??

 

[ABQ]

It's not as if @tikiman pulled an "I know something you don't know. Naaa naa na naaaa naaa" child like move. He just stated he told us all everything he could. Even if he had not stated that he knew a little more but couldn't say anything, I would have assumed just that. I assume that of anyone on this forum with inside info. Whether it's been put out there in type or not. I'm just upset that we may now get nothing on the Poly construction going forward.

 

[flynnibus]

Yeah all of the sudden this thread has derailed. I dont understand the attack on tiki, he has shared way more than he has to and has kept us up to date and clarified many things on the Polynesian mess.

It's not an attack on tiki...

It's skepticism about claims that make NO SENSE. Like building codes requiring higher UV blocking for skylights (something any of you can lookup and verify)... or because you use pond water the whole fountain needed to be torn out (vs just not using pond water).

I'm sorry... but withholding information due to sources does not CHANGE facts like there is no building code requiring a specific UV blocking value for skylights. etc.

 

[monothingie]

You obviously are easily offended if someone just doesn't blindly follow.

He who lives in a glass house....

 

[flynnibus]

He who lives in a glass house....

You'd have a hard time finding anywhere on this site where I've been 'offended' by anything said here. Disgusted? Floored? Certainly.. offended? no

 

[monothingie]

You'd have a hard time finding anywhere on this site where I've been 'offended' by anything said here. Disgusted? Floored? Certainly.. offended? no

I don't know... it seems that people who offer views counter to your own certainly experience your offense at a differing viewpoint.

Needless to say, I thank you for knocking @tikiman out of the discussion because the information he presented doesn't give you the answers that you wanted to hear.

 

[Prince-1]

He who lives in a glass house....

...sweat a lot because the sun makes it very hot inside??"

 

[abeachchick]

Wow, I really enjoyed this thread.....until recently.

I hope @tikiman will return to the conversation.

@tikiman, I value your information. Please come back and ignore the debbie downers.

 

[seascape]

I hope tikiman comes back but if he doesn't I would understand. At least we can always check out his page. I appreciate all the information he provides about the Poly.