Per Jim Hill, the Star Wars restaurant is coming.

WDW Pro

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It compares to previous reports of it being nearly a walk-on most of the time.

A sign that people have stopped being afraid to show up, maybe.

During the weeks prior to Independence Day Week, SR would pull about 90 minute waits at opening, followed by average 30 minute waits for the rest of the day, up until evening hours when it would hover between 15 minute and walk-on queues. Posted wait times were often doubled in the first two weeks, and the ride was seldom allowed to post under 30 minutes even if it was a 5 minute wait. Independence Day crowds combined with earthquakes and a medical incident have all caused it to be difficult how the ride performed the past few days, but it looks to have held crowds at just under Space Mountain.
 

mikejs78

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During the weeks prior to Independence Day Week, SR would pull about 90 minute waits at opening, followed by average 30 minute waits for the rest of the day, up until evening hours when it would hover between 15 minute and walk-on queues. Posted wait times were often doubled in the first two weeks, and the ride was seldom allowed to post under 30 minutes even if it was a 5 minute wait. Independence Day crowds combined with earthquakes and a medical incident have all caused it to be difficult how the ride performed the past few days, but it looks to have held crowds at just under Space Mountain.
Currently at 2:15 PM PT, Falcon has a 95 min posted wait. Next highest in the park is SM with a 65 min posted wait. TouringPlans (which factors in Disney's overestimating of wait times) estimates the actual wait for MF to currently be 84 min. So perhaps the low crowds drought is nearing it's end.
 

jt04

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Currently at 2:15 PM PT, Falcon has a 95 min posted wait. Next highest in the park is SM with a 65 min posted wait. TouringPlans (which factors in Disney's overestimating of wait times) estimates the actual wait for MF to currently be 84 min. So perhaps the low crowds drought is nearing it's end.

Non-APs realizing their window of opportunity is narrowing perhaps?
 

TP2000

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The silver lining of this, if there is indeed management “panic”, is that the current “suits” are shown the door and magically Tom Staggs comes back 🤩🤩🤩

Ah yes, the guy the national media described as "an oddly waifish man of anemic personality". If that's what national newspapers had called me, I wouldn't return to that company and that level of personal scrutiny for all the money in the world.

I'm of the opinion the media got it right with that unflattering description of Mr. Staggs; he was waifish in appearance and didn't seem to have much personality. I wouldn't want to sit next to him at a bar and chat over a Manhattan, because he seems lifeless and boring.

But what Mr. Staggs did right was just let the theme park bosses spend what they needed to improve their parks, mostly because Mr. Staggs had no real idea how theme parks worked and his personality was too anemic to steer them in any other direction.

Mr. Chapek seems just as clueless about how theme parks work as Mr. Staggs was, perhaps more so. But Mr. Chapek has a stronger personality and will try and pretend harder that he knows what he's doing and what he's talking about, forcing the theme park bosses to cut their budgets to make himself look better to Bob Iger instead of allowing the parks to fund themselves at levels they feel appropriate.

Chapek Business Example # 246: Cutting the supper club, all entertainment, and all interactive elements out of the Star Wars Land budget, making the land feel dead and lifeless unless you spend an extra $200 to build a lightsaber.

I also wouldn't want to sit next to Mr. Chapek at a bar and chat over a Manhattan, because he seems dumb and douchey.
 
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KevinPage

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But what Mr. Staggs did right was just let the theme park bosses spend what they needed to improve their parks, mostly because Mr. Staggs had no real idea how theme parks worked and his personality was too anemic to steer them in any other direction.

Sometimes that’s all you want from management. Someone who knows when NOT to interfere and let creative people do creative things and not try to always “make your mark” 😎
 

lazyboy97o

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True, but he approved the budgets for Carsland, Pandora and SWGE, so that’s gives him a 👍🏼.

Chapek is responsible for TSL & Pixar Pier.

I’d take a Jay Raluso back at this point.

The bald Paul Pressler needs to go, NOW! 🧐
Chapek is following Staggs, he’s no different. Jay approved Cars Land and Pandora was all about Bob’s ego and was him also following Staggs.
 

Purduevian

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Letting people backstage may not be against company policy, but it is a total fail if a 45 minute queue needs a back stage queue.

Fastpass will actually help the problem of a 45 minute queue needing a backstage areas. With ~2,000 people per hour going through the attraction, a 45 minute wait needs to hold ~1,500 people. If fastpass is given 70% of the capacity, it would still take 1,500 people in the standby line to reach the backstage area... but this would mean there is a 2.5 hour standby line.
 

Tim Lohr

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At the risk of bringing this back "on topic", is this building (circled in red) "not" the table service restaurant? but some part of the queue for the 2nd ride? If so, there is a lot of extra room at the Hollywood Studios to expand Star Wars Land where the train tracks are in Disneyland, maybe that's why it's a Phase 2 at WDW
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gerarar

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At the risk of bringing this back "on topic", is this building (circled in red) "not" the table service restaurant? but some part of the queue for the 2nd ride? If so, there is a lot of extra room at the Hollywood Studios to expand Star Wars Land where the train tracks are in Disneyland, maybe that's why it's a Phase 2 at WDW
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That's the exit to ROTR I believe. You "crash-land" back into Batuu after your various encounters.
 

doctornick

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At the risk of bringing this back "on topic", is this building (circled in red) "not" the table service restaurant? but some part of the queue for the 2nd ride? If so, there is a lot of extra room at the Hollywood Studios to expand Star Wars Land where the train tracks are in Disneyland, maybe that's why it's a Phase 2 at WDW
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As others have said, that's part of RotR. The restaurant space is on the right side of the map, next to where the cantina is. There is empty allocated space in the exact same spot in both DL and DHS for the table service.

And, yes, the area where the train tracks are is a large berm in DHS and is indeed where an expansion plot is for that park. If they do expansion in DL, it would need to be in a different direction.
 

britain

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Ah yes, the guy the national media described as "an oddly waifish man of anemic personality". If that's what national newspapers had called me, I wouldn't return to that company and that level of personal scrutiny for all the money in the world.

I also wouldn't want to sit next to Mr. Chapek at a bar and chat over a Manhattan, because he seems dumb and douchey.


Here's @TP2000, gunning for @WDW1974's role!
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Has anyone hear about a rumor about a sit in restaurant in Batuu?



Yes, it's been discussed here in several threads. Consensus of insiders is Disney had put it on hold, but is now possibly fast-tracking it either to draw more people in, or deal with how Oga's is super-successful while the rest of the land isn't as super-crowded as they'd thought it'd be (which may still happen once AP black-outs are lifted and the super-E-Ticket is done).

{moved to a thread where this isn't off-topic}
 

WDW Pro

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Yes, it's been discussed here in several threads. Consensus of insiders is Disney had put it on hold, but is now possibly fast-tracking it either to draw more people in, or deal with how Oga's is super-successful while the rest of the land isn't as super-crowded as they'd thought it'd be (which may still happen once AP black-outs are lifted and the super-E-Ticket is done).

{moved to a thread where this isn't off-topic}

There are zero insiders saying Phase 2 has been fast-tracked. Feel free to quote one if I'm wrong. Phase 2 is not green lit, and will not be reviewed for even funding until at least January.
 

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