Peace....

DDLand

DDLand

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Videos that are released from Orlando press events are never very substantive or interesting. Imagine if someone held his feet to the fire and asked him decently tough questions. All the interviewers want to become friends with the Creatives, so they usually resort to flattery. Oh, and their next press pass would get "lost in the mail" if they were too tough.

The notion that artists should choose the ride system that works best for them makes perfect sense. In fact, if we're talking about the proper creative process, it would probably go something like this:
1) Operations/Business Strategy notify creatives that a new ride is warranted in a certain quadrant. Basic operational criteria are shared.
2) Creatives weigh the story and purpose of the given area and start deciding what stories would work.
3) Creatives finalize story and proceed to choose the best medium for expression.
4) They finalize concepts with different capital thresholds and scale.
5) Operations/Business Strategy weigh the options and choose the best project for their park.

There is not even the slightest chance that the creative process went anything like that. Fallon's development was probably more like this:

1) Business strategy/Executives demand a Fallon ride in the parks.
2) With very little in the way of interesting rides to create with this subject matter, Universal Creative make the best of a bad situation.
3) Mark Woodbury vetoed the best case scenario, and sent them back for a simulator attraction.
4) Ride through New York is born.

This has to be the most bizarre attraction to launch in a world class theme park in recent memory. The premise is out there.

I will applaud the lounges. Experimenting with new guest experiences is always a positive. Using the lounges to try and justify the mediocrity of your ride is laughable. Guests have never come to theme parks to play on gimmick games waiting for mediocre ride. This is like New Fantasyland taken even further.

They also seem to rely extensively on the idea guests are knowledgeable about Fallon's show, which is extremely polarizing. I have no idea what a #panda is, nor why I should care about it.

I will have to ride it before making a final determination, but at this point I am somewhat dumbfounded.

He honestly seems more excited about the pre ride experience. His discussion on the future of virtual queues is thought provoking. I fear a Pandora's box (no pun intended) is being opened. So many operational and logistical challenges will emerge. Theme Parks will waste ever more space and money on elaborate queues instead of the actual ride experience. Instead of adding capacity, they can just add benches instead.

It could be great, but it also could be disaster. Disney has tried this one off gimmick before with Dumbo, we will have to see how Volcano Bay goes. Though Water Parks are fundamentally different from their Theme Peers. They may be able to get away with it, but a full world class theme park might not.

Hah, Disney's MyMagic system still goes down on occasion. Imagine Islands of Adventure queue less, without proper queue capacity when the computers go down. Anarchy.

This seems half baked, but they could prove us wrong yet. All and all we should get:
1) Nice waiting spaces
2) Shorter Attractions
3) Fewer Attractions
4) Worse Attractions

Seems like poor trade off to me.

For whatever reason, people never seemed to mind waiting for rides when they were good and were long.

Just saying.
 
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Kman101

Kman101

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imperius said:
Guest scores are high for this ride. So it really doesn't seem to matter what we think about it.
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Already? It just opened. I know it's been soft opening but I too find that hard to believe. I know Fallon's popular but I personally haven't heard rave reviews.
 
articos

articos

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rushtest4echo said:
You're missing it, creative has been "over screens" internally since Gringotts and Transformers yet it continues.

Having this particular dude give interviews to fans about fan topics seems like a bad idea given his history.
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Give him a platform to talk - to fans, the media, whoever - he will. I do applaud his engaging with fans.
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Already? It just opened. I know it's been soft opening but I too find that hard to believe. I know Fallon's popular but I personally haven't heard rave reviews.
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Ratings are stronger than expected right now. We will see if that lasts.
 
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Kman101

Kman101

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twebber55 said:
i think he means some things that get ripped around here actually is loved/liked be the general peublic
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Ok. And I don't know why that really bothers him. He needs to understand that some things don't appeal to everyone. A lot of what the general public like gets us into situations that aren't good for the park themselves. He gets worked up. We know they don't care about our opinions and the general public's is what the parks seem to listen to. What makes their opinion more valid than ours in his mind? Anyway ... just trying to understand his viewpoint, not trying to get on him or anything :/ ... but he ignores my questions so I guess he doesn't get the point of a discussion board?
 
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rushtest4echo

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Kman101 said:
Ok. And I don't know why that really bothers him. He needs to understand that some things don't appeal to everyone. A lot of what the general public like gets us into situations that aren't good for the park themselves. He gets worked up. We know they don't care about our opinions and the general public's is what the parks seem to listen to. What makes their opinion more valid than ours in his mind? Anyway ... just trying to understand his viewpoint, not trying to get on him or anything :/ ... but he ignores my questions so I guess he doesn't get the point of a discussion board?
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EDIT: No need for my harshness, we seemed to have a meeting of the minds ont he other thread, it's all good. :)

However, I can assure you that beyond the tabloid reporting of a certain individual here, nothing "gets me worked up". I do enjoy a good back and forth with members, and I enjoy hearing and contributing to news/rumor/opinions on WDW. It's why we're all here, isn't it? My opinions don't matter more than anyone else, but I'd like to think that anyone who takes the time to provide evidence to support their claim deserve more consideration. I'll continue to respect people who support their claims compared to just crying to the skies about misaligned manhole covers or little annoyances that get conflated into "I'm never going to that horrible place again because they can't align their manhole covers." And it IS annoying when then don't align those. ;)
 
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Kman101

Kman101

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We cleared the air in the other thread. That post was before you replied to me. I'm always one to say this is a discussion board and we all debate things and everyone has an opinion so no, I'm not telling anyone what to say or anything like that. I am sorry about all of it. Tone is sometimes hard to figure out on a message board and maybe I jump the gun a bit [as do others]. It's all good on my end.
 
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rushtest4echo

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Same here bro, *bro hug*.

No disrespect intended, I'm sorry if my tone isn't always perceptible.

I do hope you let other people call a spade a spade when said spade is irrationally crying about something at WDW with no basis in reality though. I'll work on my tone too, heh. ;)
 

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