Pardon me, but your on my sidewalk...

[Jimmy Thick]

" Since I've been gone...Since I've been gone...So many same threads can't take it..."

Yeah, I know, thats not how that classic Rainbow song goes, but Iam just reading waaaaay to many of the same type of threads around here, its time to pump it up Jimmy style.

You know what that means my little Jimmy Fans, its time for a controversial poll.


So, you just got done doing most of the rides at the Magic Kingdom, its 7:45 pm, and Wishes is going to happen later and you want great seats to get the full, dramatic impact. So you take a perfect seat next to the statue of Uncle Walt right in front of the castle.

Its now 9:55, Wishes starts in 5 minutes and crowds are getting packed in, but your still in a perfect spot, until right when the show starts, a tall person stands right in front of you, totally blocking your view. No matter what you do, you can't see through them, and you get forced to move to another area.

You just waited 2 hours of your life for nothing.

But...


The guy blocking you view wanted to see Wishes to, and he does have a right to see it, and there is no "hold" on a public walkway so its pretty much open game just where you can stand. Right?

I would safely assume this could happen at parades as well.

Where does common courtesy end, and rudeness begin, and who decides?




Jimmy Thick- "Oooooh Oooooh Oooooh, since you been gone!"

 

[greebomusic]

Why not just switch places with the height offender? Just because someone decides to waste a portion of thier day "camping" doesn't mean they get a 5 foot buffer zone.

 

[Fantasmic]

I would not wait 2 hours for a firework show.. I'd be riding Splash Mountain...

 

[DisneyDadof5]

2 Ways of looking at this.

As a WDW pro, I'm not waiting 2 hours. My family and I will be riding HM, Splash, BTM, and Pirates repeatedly while everyone else camps. Plenty of good spots along bridges, smoking sections, etc to see the fireworks when they start.

However, if someone taller than my family steps in front of me, I'll ask them to please move as my children can't see. Most are courteous and do just that. For the obstinate ones :lookaroun you have to decide if it's worth raising a ruckus, or moving along. As I'm on vacation with family, I usually just shift the kids.

 

[Eyorefan]

Yeah, I'm not waiting 2 hours to see a parade and if I am walking up as the parade starts, I make sure that I'm not blocking anyone's view (then again I'm short so... ).

That said, why are you waiting 2 hours for something, and not sitting on the curb/right up against the rope? Honestly, you can't expect people to not fill in all avalible space when there are thousands of people wanting to see the show.

 

[cowanfamily]

Last time I waited 2 hours for anything I was at Six Flags!

 

[joel_maxwell]

I would not wait 2 hours for a firework show.. I'd be riding Splash Mountain...

Same here. Fireworks are nice... and parades are fun, but Id rather ride attractions since we dont get down there all that much.

 

[DisneyLeo18]

I don't feel people own a spot when it comes to fireworks since the show can be seen from so many places and its in the sky. I have never been waiting in a spot to see wishes, more than 10 minutes early. I know people sit by the castle or wherever to get a good view, but its not necessary.

If it were a parade, then yes I feel whoever sits and waits for their front spot on the curb should be allowed to keep that spot. Any open spots behind the curb is fair game though. :lol:

 

[loveofamouse]

I would just nicely ask if he could step to the side or swap places since he's taller. If not, then I'll see if I can shift to the side. Other than that, I doubt his head could completely block the sky and I'll just talk crap while standing behind him until he's annoyed and leaves Same with parades.

Once, at EP, we were sitting infront of the lagoon by the entrance of WS next to some shop. It was like a silent crowd agreement that everyone would sit on the ground. Everyone was happy. Strollers were parked to the side and we sat towards the back with DSs wheelchair. Then this family of @$$holes walked past a group of a good 50 people sitting on the ground and stood infront Seriously!??! ! All it takes is one person... so I opened my mouth. Then a few more people.... So lets just say that guy got 50 people yelling at him. lol They did move.

 

[BrerFrog]

I would not wait 2 hours for a firework show.. I'd be riding Splash Mountain...

You are absolutely correct! I will arrive at the hub just before Wishes and I will make sure the position I pick will not have any tall guys around.

If that did happen, though, I would just move a little bit to get a better view. And I wouldn't be by Walt's statue during Wishes, I am always by the popcorn stands on the hub, to me that is the best place to view the fireworks.

 

[LoriMistress]

I would not wait 2 hours for a firework show.. I'd be riding Splash Mountain...

Agreed.

 

[devoy1701]

i'm alittle indifferent about this. Some people camp out, lay blankets and towels down along the whole sidewalk and try to stake a claim to the 10ft on each side of them when you know that a family of 4 or 5 won't need that much room when watching the show, even though they take up that much space while waiting for it to begin.

When we were out at Disneyland though, and even for holiday shows in WDW (3rd of July, MNSSHP, etc) we do get a spot about 45 mins to an hour before the show so we can have optimal viewing. We are curteous about it if there are people waiting before us, and we will (along with other people ask someone to move if they squeeze into the world's smallest spot infront of us and all the sudden they have 5 more people in their group that they are expecting to fit in.

I also dislike how if i've been waiting for a parade or fireworks display, that someone with a little kid and a stroller thinks they can come in 10 mins before the show starts and have me move out of the way for them. If I have a front row spot, I usually will let a kid or 2 sit/stand infront of me, but to hell with the parents and to hell with the stroller! If you have little kids who want to see the parade you should get their early!

 

[sublimesting]

If you want a great view of the parade go to Frontierland where it ends. No one is around. If you want a great fireworks show stand on Main St., plenty of room.

 

[devoy1701]

If you want a great view of the parade go to Frontierland where it ends. No one is around. If you want a great fireworks show stand on Main St., plenty of room.

Some parades start in Frontierland...and when they do it is pretty crowded.

And your Main Street advise doesn't work for special event fireworks or on phased closing days...you can't MOVE on Main Street.

 

[Master Yoda]

I think there has simply been a decline in common decency these days. Part of that is due to a more prevalent "It is all about me!" attitude and I think some comes from formerly nice people getting sick of having their better nature taken advantage of.

 

[Chevross]

I try to be courteous if I'm blocking a small woman or child's view and allow them in front of me. However, as I'm only 5ft 4in (and am not going to get any taller, but I may shrink over time), most of the time I have to inform the person blocking I cannot see. And most of the time I get tough luck as an answer.

So I just go and ride the rides instead.

 

[Dwarful]

I always allow a bit of extra space around us early on because I know we will get squished no matter what. But I've never grabbed a space early for fireworks..not even on special nights...MVMCP, P&PP, etc.
Slightly off topic:
We were at the studios the Friday night Easter. We got a spot about an hour early to watch the Block Party Bash parade. The CM's kept coming by to make sure no one was off the curb as they might get hit. About 20 minutes before parade viewing this group of people comes squeezing in, one woman was clearly off the curb and on the street. Everyone kept telling her she'd have to move, the rest of her group moved, she wouldn't. The CM came by and told her to move, she said "No English" and stayed put. A few minutes later another CM came by and said she'd have to move, she said "No English" and stayed put. Pretty soon a group of CM's come walking up and told her she's have to move, she said "No English" and refused to move, well then one CM starts in spanish and you can tell he is pretty annoyed and he starts talking to the family as well...I don't speak spanish,so I have no idea what he said, but the whole group moved on.

 

[michaelnyc]

sidewalk

you should politely ask to switch places, disney is the last place to be rude and disrespectful
if the person refuses, step aside or move in front of them, most people in disney are all tired and aggravated at the end of a long day
verbal altercations often turn to physical ones, better to avoid them totally

now this topic is close to my heart when talking about the parades
we are two adults and go to disney often, at times we sit on the curb on mainstreet early to wait for the parade
we normally sit to watch so that others behind us have a decent view but there are times we have to stand to take photos
more times than i can remember, we have been asked if a child or two can stand in front of us to watch, in the beginning we had no problem with it
every times, yes every time we let the kids in front, along comes a teenage sibling or a concerned parent or elderly grandparents and before we can stop them an entire family has made their way in front of us

how should this be handled?

 

[LudwigVonDrake]

I'll be riding Big Thunder Mountain during the parade, thank you :wave:

 

[harveyt0206]

I think there has simply been a decline in common decency these days. Part of that is due to a more prevalent "It is all about me!" attitude and I think some comes from formerly nice people getting sick of having their better nature taken advantage of.

Amen! Very well said. I understand that while I may spend time and effort trying to find a good spot to view the parade/fireworks, not everyone has the same priorities as me. I have no problem with that as long as my "good spot" isn't blocked in the last 30 seconds by someone running down the street trying to get behind the ropes/white lines. I certainly understand that everyone has a right to view the parade and that they paid for their admission just as I did. I only get frustrated when it is a blatant block of my view and there is no attempt to acknowledge my presence. Usually a simple "do you mind if we sit here/stand here/squeeze in here" is all it takes for me to bend over backwards to accommodate that person. As Master Yoda said, "common decency" sure goes a long way for most folks.