I would like park expansion not park repurposing. There is no real reason to touch this area at all as there is plenty of room all around the property in which to actually expand.
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Osborne Lights ending for good (or not) due to Star Wars expansion?
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I would like park expansion not park repurposing. There is no real reason to touch this area at all as there is plenty of room all around the property in which to actually expand.
doctornick
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DHS is already at the bottom for people visiting among the 4 parks. This would just drop it further behind the other parks.
doctornick
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Agreed. It's frustrating seeing TDO constantly repurposing existing rides/attractions instead of expanding and adding more total rides. There's space to build more for DHS and all the parks while keeping stuff that is already there.
That said I philosophically understand the idea of removing the SoA if they want to get rid of all the vestiges of the "working studio" concept. If they remove the stunt shows and Backlot Tour, then the SoA would kind of stick out as odd in what is otherwise is a more typical theme park.
However even if that is the motivation for removing the SoA, then as I said it could be easily renovated into a "Monstropolis" setting while keeping the same layout. This would be fairly affordable to do and could keep the "scaffolding" for the Orborne Lights intact while thematically fitting into the same concept as building Cars Land and expanding Pixar Place.
wendysue
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We love DHS, but if the lights are removed, we will just eliminate the Nov/Dec trips to the world. MVMCP is certainly not a draw for us (too expensive/not worth it) and Epcot has eliminated so much of the holiday offerings, we may as well go at another time.
Maelstrom Troll
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When I was a kid, MGM was my favorite park. It just felt so alive, I always felt like there was going to be a talent agent or star around the corner....like what I thought the real Hollywood was like. As an adult with my own family, HS has turned in our third favorite park with only AK behind it. However, last November was our first holiday visit to the MK and we were amazed at the Osborne lights. We loved it so much, we went twice. I really would like a new park, especially since HS seems to have lost its magic, but sacrificing the lights would be a real shame.
KatMaria
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Well when I worked the lights last year, the techs told me that moving the lights to another area was very possible and it just would be figuring out where. One even suggested Sunset but who knows if it can actually all fit there. That being said, Disney got rid of the lights once before and got so many letters about it not being there, it was back the next year. I doubt they will get rid of it, it is a very popular thing.
JIMINYCR
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Being such an expansive display, I really dont see them fitting in any other park. Unless they downsize the amount of lights and that would change the potential to draw the crowds in. It just wouldn't work. It's a show I never tire of and always look forward to seeing.
scpergj
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Same here.
We ALWAYS made time for a short weekend trip or two in late November/early December, pretty much to spend time enjoying the lights. The first time we saw them must have been (I had to look through pictures) 2005. Looking through the pictures to make sure of that date, I count 10 weekend trips, and two single day trips. We'd not make those trips without the lights; we'd wait until the really uncrowded times in January/early February, and not as many of those. Sure, we'd still make trips, but not as many. We would plan our day (and in reality our trip) around making it to the Studios for the lights.
doctornick
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I find it hard to believe that TDO wouldn't find someplace for the lights considering they are a relatively cheap and already established draw. Okay, the SoA might go away, but how tough would it be to build some fake street somewhere in the World to support the lights?
unkadug
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That's where it used to be ...on a fake street. They could easily throw up some flats that looked like a streetscape.
Captain Neo
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That is prime real estate though just sitting around boring people to tears. It should be torn down to make way for exciting attractions that will drive ticket sales.
That is prime real estate though just sitting around boring people to tears. It should be torn down to make way for exciting attractions that will drive ticket sales.
Pixiedustmaker
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So you don't have to buy a ticket to see them?
Doubtful.
While Osbourne Lights are for "just" two months, or so, . . . those are some pretty important months. Guests at WDW during the holidays undoubtedly spend more (Christmas shopping and the holiday excitement), plus for some folks, it is the big thing they want to see, and if they are taken away, they might not visit WDW at all.
Given LMA's popularity, and Osbourne Lights and the obviously logistical issues with DHS, I don't see a major project happening *inside* of DHS, so it won't affect Osbourne Lights.
Carsland at DCA was built on a parking lot, DHS has 10 million visits a year, no need to knee-cap attendance for three years when Carsland can be built elsewhere (if it comes to WDW in the future). Carsland also gets really hot, can't see it coming to Orlando anytime soon, worse than Anaheim weather-wise.
Pixiedustmaker
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Kinda doubt LMA is going anywhere, the crazier of the rumors has said that Muppets is history (with a sequel on the way, and being a profitable Disney franchise unlike Lone Ranger, John Carter . . .) I could see Backlot and Soundstage 1 going for a Pixar ride, that would keep DHS up for half a decade if it was done well. DCA 2.0 didn't involve tearing down much of anything, save for the hubcap fountain to put in the Carthay, and taking out the golden gate bridge thingy. Disney doesn't really do mass demolitions.
Pixiedustmaker
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2012 Attendance:
DHS 9,912,000
Epcot 11,063,000
AK 9,998,000
DHS attendance is up, WDW hit a record last Easter . . . not so sure I would say that DHS is falling behind. I think that in some recent years, AK and DHS have traded places.
DHS has always been kinda landlocked. I can them adding a new Pixar attraction, it was rumored, but seems like DHS has maintained guest attendance without it . . . maybe that is why it was apparently cancelled.
Pixiedustmaker
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There is a lot of room to expand outside of DHS. DHS is kinda . . . almost built out, save for the parking lot and suitable land across from World Drive. Disney isn't stupid, DHS is making money with the shows/seasonal offering of Osbourne Lights, can't see any sane Disney exec saying, "let's demolish this whole area here . . ." Ridiculous rumors and not at all surprised that all the "inside info" about Carsland, then StarWarsland plus Carsland, or maybe an indoor Cars ride coming to DHS haven't materialized for some big D23 announcement.
Just shows you can't look at DHS and figure "it must have the same land as DCA 1.0 to expand on, and must have the same problems, so where are the bulldozers?"
SirLink
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Nope, nope, nope. There are expansion pads currently sitting inside the park which haven't been used. If Disney wanted to spend to grow the park outside in the current vicinity they could it just costs more. I also don't mean across World Drive which would be stupid.
Give Disneys track record of building - if in 5 years when a Value Engineered Cars Land and/or Star Wars Land emerges and it takes LMA and the SoA away I hope your going to add to your signature about your deluded fantasy and ideas are simply false.
matt9112
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i hope they just expand the osborne lights...and call it an expansion so i can laugh at this entire thread...yeah they almost expanded the park but there were revolts on the forums over light bulbs...so they added more light bulbs.
Florida_is_hot
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Disney did announce Avatarland a few years ago. So far nothing has been built or started.
Carsland, Star Wars land..... they are not announced they are just wishful thinking, and to talk about how one attraction will be effected by something that is nothing but a wish is crazy.
Carsland, Star Wars land..... they are not announced they are just wishful thinking, and to talk about how one attraction will be effected by something that is nothing but a wish is crazy.
puntagordabob
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Disney's slow reaction has been a great benefit to their local competition.... Universal, Legoland, etc are all putting out some pretty nice quality products... it amazes me of the people I know here in Florida (friends, business associates, etc) who all seem to no longer go to Walt Disney World (and many of them used to go religiously!) and many of them are trying to encourage me to go to Universal, Busch Gardens, etc....
TDO has for a long time seemingly "not cared" about the locals unlike their Anaheim cousins.... which is Just Fine I suppose in their business model when you have the out of area traveller's "In the bag".... but HERE is the thing.... I have friends and family outside of Florida now who are asking "You ever go to Universal or blank?? Hearing good things about that! Kids want to see this or that? I want to see this or that!?"
Add this to Disneyland really starting to pull in the out of area travellers, Shanghai Disney opening its doors in the not too distant future, Tokyo Disney as always stepping up their game, some additions to Hong Kong Disney, and the possibility that Disneyland Paris will get its act together...and YOU have some serious DISNEY vs DISNEY here too. To be honest if I didnt live in Florida, what difference would it make say to go to California instead? or if I lived in a Non-US location why not give one of the other Disney destinations a test drive????
Will Walt Disney World blink out of existence? VERY Unlikely!!! Though the Walt Disney World we do have could be something that is far less loved than we have today.
"A single spec of snow can combine into a cute little snowball... as it slowly rolls down the side of the hill you would not suspect it is something potentially dangerous... If I were standing there I could grab it up and melt it in my hands.....and yet as you watch it roll pass you harmlessly it gathers momentum and in a short time the people in the village below are killed in an avalanche.....
PERHAPS those in power at TDO should consider that as they watch that spec of snow fall from the sky.
Every square inch of WDW is prime real estate. Parks with seasonal offerings need a flex area in which to put them. SoA fits that bill nicely.