Opening Pooh On Same Night As Potter: Smart or Stupid?

Captain Chaos

Captain Chaos

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Pooh will be out of the top 10 in two weeks and out of theaters in 3...We all know Disney was banking on a lot more money than it pulled in... Seems like a bad decision to me and the person responsible for it should be fired immediately... If they had waited two or three more weeks, after the Potter frenzy dies out and Captain America had it one week run, Pooh would have probably done better... Missed opportunity in my opinion... Maybe the person who made this failing decision will be promoted since Disney promotes failing upward!!!
 
dxwwf3

dxwwf3

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I know Pooh skews a little younger, but you don't try to counter-program a family film with another family film. Not a hard concept.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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More from Box Office Mojo:

"In the face of Harry Potter, Winnie the Pooh started with a whimper: an estimated $8 million at 2,405 locations. That was an improvement over Pooh's Heffalump Movie and Piglet's Big Movie, but it was behind The Tigger Movie[*]. Distributor Walt Disney Pictures' exit polling indicated that 85 percent of the audience was parents and their children, and 62 percent was female. In terms of age, 38 percent was kids age 11 years old and younger, while 53 percent was 18 and older."

*Tigger Movie's opening was $9.4 million in 2000.
 
dxwwf3

dxwwf3

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hakunamatata said:
Hmmm. So preschoolers are not part of the family. Learn something new each day.
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I guess most Disney thrill rides aren't family friendly either right? If you don't think the Potter franchise is a family friendly franchise, I really have no words for you.
 
dxwwf3

dxwwf3

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Babies shouldn't even be in a movie theater. If you're old enough to be in a theater, you can enjoy the Potter films. Snow White has scary parts too.
 
dxwwf3

dxwwf3

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Bottom line is Disney botched the release date and got what they deserved. Of all 52 weeks to release a film this year, they picked the worst one.
 
Captain Chaos

Captain Chaos

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dxwwf3 said:
Bottom line is Disney botched the release date and got what they deserved. Of all 52 weeks to release a film this year, they picked the worst one.
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We all knew they would finish behind Potter, but to finish 6th, behind Paul Blart Animal Cop, I mean Zookeeper, is embarrassing... Again, the person making this decision should be fire right now but will probably be promoted.
 
Random Vids Inc

Random Vids Inc

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Winnie The Pooh won't get the credit it deserves because Pooh isn't a family thing anymore it's totally children. I know many of my friends that are excited about this movie (I'm 21). We're all excited because we grew up on The Many Adventures of Winnie The Pooh and all the books. Since about 2000 all kids have had were My Friends Tigger and Pooh pretty much. A whole decade of kids that are now 11-15 don't have the same memories of Pooh that the previous generations have had so it's looked at as a strictly kids movie so it's not going to get the mainstream credit it deserves. Sad day in history when Glee is cooler than Tigger...
 
jt04

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dxer07002 said:
We all knew they would finish behind Potter, but to finish 6th, behind Paul Blart Animal Cop, I mean Zookeeper, is embarrassing... Again, the person making this decision should be fire right now but will probably be promoted.
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Always calling for people to be fired is bad medicine.

Keep in mind all those families walking through the lobby to see Potter also saw the Pooh promotions but also, I guarantee most theater owners showed the trailer before Potter. It will pay off in the long run.

Savvy?
 
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CaptainShortty

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jt04 said:
Always calling for people to be fired is bad medicine.

Keep in mind all those families walking through the lobby to see Potter also saw the Pooh promotions but also, I guarantee most theater owners showed the trailer before Potter. It will pay off in the long run.

Savvy?
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The Pooh trailer wasn't at the beginning of HP (at least where I saw it).
 
Captain Chaos

Captain Chaos

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jt04 said:
Always calling for people to be fired is bad medicine.

Keep in mind all those families walking through the lobby to see Potter also saw the Pooh promotions but also, I guarantee most theater owners showed the trailer before Potter. It will pay off in the long run.

Savvy?
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Nope... wrong there jt... Pooh was NOT part of the trailers for Potter... Nice try though...

pooh finishes 9th or 10th next week, then out of top 10 the week after.. and out of theaters the week after that... not even doing 20-25 million in business...

there is no long haul for this movie...

Potter to pooh: Avada Kedavra
 
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WDWGoof07

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Random Vids Inc said:
Winnie The Pooh won't get the credit it deserves because Pooh isn't a family thing anymore it's totally children. I know many of my friends that are excited about this movie (I'm 21). We're all excited because we grew up on The Many Adventures of Winnie The Pooh and all the books. Since about 2000 all kids have had were My Friends Tigger and Pooh pretty much. A whole decade of kids that are now 11-15 don't have the same memories of Pooh that the previous generations have had so it's looked at as a strictly kids movie so it's not going to get the mainstream credit it deserves. Sad day in history when Glee is cooler than Tigger...
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You hit the nail on the head here. It demonstrates the deleterious long-term effects that the Eisner-era cheapquels and bastardizations of classic characters have on the Disney brand. Pooh was always the hardest hit in this department. It's sad that this newest film might be a victim of those short-sighted decisions, even though the creative culture has totally reformed in the Lasseter era at WDAS.

Unfortunately, this "Potter counter-programming" strategy might be reinforcing the public impression that Pooh is strictly kiddie fare because the Potter films, despite the ratings, are family films because the books are so universally loved. That really is a disservice to a film that both kids and adults can enjoy, as I have detailed here. Hopefully Winnie the Pooh will get a second wind at the box office from all the people who rushed to see Deathly Hallows Part 2 on the opening weekend and from good word-of-mouth (audiences like it a lot, and it is 91% Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes).

I knew the Pooh movie would be good because Disney's big league animators finally had a chance to work with the character, but I underestimated WDAS. I was absolutely blown away by the movie. Let's just say that I had money set aside for both Winnie the Pooh and Deathly Hallows this weekend, but I used the Potter money to go to Winnie the Pooh again.
 
Demeter Tess

Demeter Tess

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Agreed, "Pooh" was incredible and a real tribute to A.A. Milne's work, which is perhaps MORE poignant and charming to adults, as most of his cleverness goes right over kids' heads. The movie was an absolute treat. I did not stop smiling the entire movie, and there are very few movie-going experiences I can say that of. If you are ever in need of a good chuckle, I heartily recommend reading the original collection by Milne. The man possessed such a wonderful (and refreshingly uncynical) sense of life, and this film was brimming with it. For the first time in a long while, I felt that the filmmakers were really trying their best to honor Milne's spirit, moreso than market his characters.
 
xdan0920

xdan0920

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It was a mistake of epic proportions to debut Pooh opposite Harry. This is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact. How hugely disappointing to finish with 8 million and in 6th place. Horrible.

Disney has made 3 big mistakes with animated features this year. The first, the Mars need Moms debacle. Which will go down as one of the top 3 biggest flops of all time. The second is the Cars2 money grab. Cars is going to finish its run as the lowest grossing Pixar movie ever, and the lowest in attendance figures by a mile. Now this Pooh mess.

By the way JT. I know you stand behind TWDC management at every turn, but in this case, probably best to just not say anything.
 

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