On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace

[Lilofan]

I'm not done with the preposterous claim.......

Atlantis in Bahamas is doing just fine right now and its Cove has sold out the random days I checked.

No guest mask requirement there.

Who is packing the hotel in the Bahamas?. Not U S Citizens. Last time we had drinks and ate at Atlantis there was a standing policy that locals were not allowed into the casino and grounds. Did Atlantis change their policy and admit locals?

 

[mkt]

All parks are tbh

Pretty much. But they aren't acting like it.

There's still 3 hour hold times for the monthly annual passholder phone line.

I wonder if I file a chargeback on next month's charge if they'll call me instead.

 

[tirian]

Thats basically what i meant. I meant STATE political pressures, not national.

My bad on not being clear as I'm tryin to toe the line here.....

Florida gets all its income from Sales Tax and tourism revenue. No tourists = no money.

I understand.

 

[Lilofan]

Why? Most protesters are local to their communities. And if you live in Florida, you get used to the heat. You don't have to like it, but you're used to it.

I understand it's easy to believe the story that protesters are being bussed in. But they're not. At least not from far away. They don't have the money to bus people in. At most you'll get caravans of 3-4 cars from other parts of the state, but the vast majority of the people are from the county the protest is happening in, plus surrounding counties.

Don't see it happening. Can see it happening in front of Crossroads McDonalds near Disney Springs.

 

[Castmbr]

Without getting political? Because of governmental and economic pressures.

..... That and approximately $2.5M a day from the NBA. (Thats the figure i was told - could be higher, could be lower)

IMHO, nothing should be open until this public health emergency is under control.

Its nowhere close to being under control.

The Furloughed Disney employees I imagine feel differently. It is amazing how people that still have income coming into their bank accounts are making such decisions. Just food for thought....

 

[mkt]

Mayan Riviera/Cancun is seeing a lot of bookings and travel.......no guest mask requirement at resorts.

It's also the largest country to still let Americans in... so yeah.

Volcano Bay is doing OK...way, way better than the 2 other parks which are ghost towns.

It's a water park in the Florida summer. The virus could cause skin to melt off in seconds and could be contagious within a mile, and people would still go to the waterpark.

 

[larryz]

WOW..... things are bad

That's a page out of Sea World Inc's playbook -- buy two days, get the rest of the year free.

 

[mkt]

Don't see it happening. Can see it happening in front of Crossroads McDonalds near Disney Springs.

Neither do I. I could see it happening right on the property line, but not within property.

 

[asianway]

I still own some old Walt Disney World planning videos that advertised the then new "Fast Pass" system (2000 and 2001). It was released during the 100 Years of Magic Celebration.

Out of all the Disney Planning videos, this was the one I watched the most as a kid.

Here's the 2000 video


Just watching the Planning Video from 2001 is already making me miss this Disney. Those videos actually felt welcoming and genuine compared to anything form the "Disney Parks' blog.

You know what annoyed me on some of those old videos? The “fake” character voices they dubbed in on some segments

 

[Lilofan]

The Furloughed Disney employees I imagine feel differently. It is amazing how people that still have income coming into their bank accounts are making such decisions. Just food for thought....

People making the decisions are on the payroll. I've never heard of people making decisions working for free.

 

[mkt]

The Furloughed Disney employees I imagine feel differently. It is amazing how people that still have income coming into their bank accounts are making such decisions. Just food for thought....

If the political polls I did among Disney CM's in 2016 and before the primaries earlier this year are any indication, CM's are not unified in anything, and have no issues voting against their own self interests.

 

[castlecake2.0]

There was mention of Maim Street turning into Mickey Avenue a few dozen pages back, any note details on that rumour?

 

[Castmbr]

If the political polls I did among Disney CM's in 2016 and before the primaries earlier this year are any indication, CM's are not unified in anything, and have no issues voting against their own self interests.

True ...it takes all kinds of people and your observation is probably true in most private companies. Public institutions are a different employee make up entirely and will vote as they see benefits their paychecks which is human nature and makes sense.

 

[Nunu]

Pretty much. But they aren't acting like it.

There's still 3 hour hold times for the monthly annual passholder phone line.

I wonder if I file a chargeback on next month's charge if they'll call me instead.

No, they aren't. No resort offers beyond Sept 30th that I've seen. $200/night for POP in Oct? Crazy, given the circumstances.

 

[Castmbr]

People making the decisions are on the payroll. I've never heard of people making decisions working for free.

Closing the parks would be bad for all Cast..... the health dept is what is driving half of Disney's issues right now and they , the health authorities, will not be missing any income based upon their decisions that could hurt businesses. They will get paid no matter what happens. "If it saves just one life" is the primary objective not saving jobs or business. Just making an observation.....

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If the political polls I did among Disney CM's in 2016 and before the primaries earlier this year are any indication, CM's are not unified in anything, and have no issues voting against their own self interests.

Because they never have been...or will be. Based on demographics and backgrounds.

And they really aren’t “unionized” either...by design. People repeatedly make the mistake of making a false comparison on this point.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, they aren't. No resort offers beyond Sept 30th that I've seen. $200/night for POP in Oct? Crazy, given the circumstances.

That to me is a sign they expect a shutdown...just a guess

 

[mkt]

Because they never have been...or will be. Based on demographics and backgrounds.

And they really aren’t “unionized” either...by design. People repeatedly make the mistake of making a false comparison on this point.

They're union members forbidden from striking in a right to work state.

It's like getting into a car accident, but your airbag is just a pillow taped to the steering wheel. It might help, but it probably won't.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

You've never been to Aulani, eh?

I haven’t. And to be fair... Eisner brought us All Star Resorts!

That has more to do with how Rohde and Co spent their budget. They went big on what they did, even if it meant sacrificing Beastly Kingdom, Dinoland E Ticket 1.0 and later Tiger River Run.

That’s what I always thought.... but now knowing DAK development started in the pre-Paris era makes a lot of sense.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They're union members forbidden from striking in a right to work state.

It's like getting into a car accident, but your airbag is just a pillow taped to the steering wheel. It might help, but it probably won't.

I wasn’t gonna say it...

Because I’ve been saying exactly that on forums for 20 years.

...I’m working on some “new material”