? on AP Rates in Sept and Oct

DisneyNut7578

New Member
Hi all,

I'm a new AP holder, and I was wondering if anyone knows what the AP discount rates will be in Sept and Oct for deluxe resorts. I know, I know. They haven't come out yet, but I'm looking for what they have been historically, generally speaking. just a ballpark range. I'm looking to go late Sept, early Oct and I want to start to budget for it now.

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shoppingnut

Active Member
If you are going late September, you should consider the free dining plan package, it is well worth it. They just announced about 2 weeks ago the AP discounts for 7/5 to 8/5. There were no ap discounts from 6/3 to 7/4 this year, which is the first year in a long time and because they are offering the free dining, there might not be any ap rates through September. October who knows at this point the way things are going. This year has been very unusual compared to others.
 
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KnK

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I have been waiting as well for September. My best guess is that we will not know anything until the free dining plan expires. Either they have not gotten the response they wanted or just giving people a little extra time to book it.

My husband and I did the math. Free dining still does not come out as well as the AP rates. Just way to much food on the plan, and we eat at more 2 option places and very rarely eat counter serviced meals.
 
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coltow

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little confused?

We are going to get AP's for the first time in July. We are planning on going back in December for MVMCP. I'm confused about AP rates at resorts. I assumed that they would be "released" a few months before had so that people could plan accordingly. In reading this post it seems like that is not the case. Can anyone clarify? Approximately how far in advance are AP rates released? Should I go ahead and book something or should I wait for AP rates?
 
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KnK

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As everyone will tell, Disney does not have to give AP rooms discounts. Lot's of us look forward to them.

Last year, they announced the September & October discounts the last week of May, right after Memorial Day. Like I noted early in the post, I don't expect they will release anything until after the extended dinning offer.
 
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colliera

Member
Book now and discount later

You can book your stay now and apply the discount (if there is one) later by calling back and applying the discount code.

The discounts will be limited. They might run out before you realize there is a discount and have the chance to apply it.

You could use someone like Kingdom Konsultants to help you with this. I understand they will keep on top of this and apply the discount if and when it comes out. They do require a one month cancellation notice or you loose the one night's deposit. Better than the 46 days if you book through the AP website but not as good as the 5 days if you just call and do a room only reservation.

Last year in the later part of October there wasn't any discount other than what I got through the AP website. I stayed at Wilderness Lodge for $199/night but I think that was the regular season price anyway. It was using the program they tried out that was called Best Rate. Mostly hated by everone since you had to really book several months out and couldn't do a quick trip over the weekend on a whim. I also used it again in January 06 and got a discounted rate at CBR that was automatically reduced again before I arrived. So I thought it was really a good deal. The Best Rate program has been discontinued and we are back to the discount codes.

WDWMagic is very fast about getting the news out. Also there is a forum member here that actually works for reservations who is very good about explaining the ins and outs. Apparently reservationists do not know a discount is going to happen until they come into work the day it occurs.

www.mousesavers.com also keeps up on this in a timely fashion.
 
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wannabeBelle

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As far as the AP discounts, these are NOT guaranteed by Disney as part of the perks of being an AP holder Just ask the people who were looking foward to a discount for June!!!! Also booking a room at the regular rate and hoping for a discounted rate isnt the best idea. Disney is a business just like any other. They have no way of knowing that you are booking a room and hoping to apply the discount later ( More on this idea in a bit) so they think they are selling well at full price, so hence discounts may be reduced or eliminated all together for that period!!!!
As far as applying a discount to an existing room reservation, this concept doesnt exist at all!!!! I know many people think it does but in reality all you are doing is exchanging your reservation for a discounted reservation at the same resort. In some cases, discounted rooms are not available at a given resort but full price rooms are!!! So for example if you make a reservation at a given hotel, and the DAY the discounts come out you call to "apply" the discount to your reservation. You may be told that that particular resort does not have any availability at the AP rate. Does that mean that you didnt call early enough?? No most likely not. Not every room in every resort is put on a discount. So the bottom line is that reserving a room at full price will not help you get an AP discounted rate and in fact may hinder you!!!!!
As far as Kingdom Konsultant's cancellation policy, I dont know who you got your info from Col but that is just not true!!!! For all of our bookings through Disney they are the exact same as Disney's own cancellation policy which is 45 days prior to the date of arrival for all packages ( room and ticket combinations) and either 45 days or 6 days for a room only reservation depending on how it was booked. In addition the last time that I booked a room only reservation online it said that the cancellation policy had gone down to 6 days prior to the date of arrival as well. Please feel free to post any questions onhere for me or PM Me, Pam or Evan (Disneyinsider) with any issues we can help with!!! Belle
 
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Kingdom Konsultant

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AP rates booked online however have a different cancellation policy than regular room only rates. They have a 45 day cancellation policy as compared to the 6 day cancellation policy of a rack rate room only.

And please remember if anyone needs assistance with booking their next trip to WDW, Disneyland, Disney Cruiseline or any other destination or cruise line we do it all.

Pam
 
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JPVonDrake

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AP rates booked online however have a different cancellation policy than regular room only rates. They have a 45 day cancellation policy as compared to the 6 day cancellation policy of a rack rate room only.

Kingdom Konsultants is 100% correct.

Full priced Room-Only Reservations booked online (www.disneyworld.com) have a 6 day cancellation penalty. Discounted Room-Only Reservations booked online have a 45 day cancellation penalty.

Room-Only Reservations (with or without a discount) booked by phone (1-407-W-DISNEY) have a 5 day cancellation penalty.

Although some travel agencies (and most wholesalers) do apply additional penalties to Guest cancellations, as a means to protect their commission, any well respected travel agency (such as Kingdom Konsultants) will not. It is always a best practice to ask your Travel Agent their policy before you book.

As far as the AP discounts, these are NOT guaranteed by Disney as part of the perks of being an AP holder Just ask the people who were looking forward to a discount for June!!!! Also booking a room at the regular rate and hoping for a discounted rate isn't the best idea. Disney is a business just like any other. They have no way of knowing that you are booking a room and hoping to apply the discount later ( More on this idea in a bit) so they think they are selling well at full price, so hence discounts may be reduced or eliminated all together for that period!!!!
As far as applying a discount to an existing room reservation, this concept doesn't exist at all!!!! I know many people think it does but in reality all you are doing is exchanging your reservation for a discounted reservation at the same resort. In some cases, discounted rooms are not available at a given resort but full price rooms are!!! So for example if you make a reservation at a given hotel, and the DAY the discounts come out you call to "apply" the discount to your reservation. You may be told that that particular resort does not have any availability at the AP rate. Does that mean that you didn't call early enough?? No most likely not. Not every room in every resort is put on a discount. So the bottom line is that reserving a room at full price will not help you get an AP discounted rate and in fact may hinder you!!!!!
As far as Kingdom Konsultant's cancellation policy, I don't know who you got your info from Col but that is just not true!!!! For all of our bookings through Disney they are the exact same as Disney's own cancellation policy which is 45 days prior to the date of arrival for all packages ( room and ticket combinations) and either 45 days or 6 days for a room only reservation depending on how it was booked. In addition the last time that I booked a room only reservation online it said that the cancellation policy had gone down to 6 days prior to the date of arrival as well. Please feel free to post any questions on here for me or PM Me, Pam or Evan (Disneyinsider) with any issues we can help with!!! Belle

Also Belle is 100% correct. Per your Passholder benefits booklet:

"Periodically, a limited number of rooms may be made available at select Walt Disney World Resort hotels and select Disney Vacation Club Resorts at discounted rates for Passholders. Visit disneyworld.com/passholder or see your Mickey Monitor newsletter for special offers."

When Disney Marketing determines the number of discounted rooms available in an offer, it is based on a set percentage of the available rooms in the offer, each day during the offer period on the morning of the date the offer is to be released.

For example, marketing may create an offer for travel dates 1/1/06 - 2/1/06 to include 10% of the available rooms, and release it on 12/5/05. If prior to opening on the morning of 12/5/05 there are 100 available Preferred Rooms at All Star Music for 1/15/06, then the offer will include 10 discount Preferred Rooms (10% off 100) at this resort for arrivals on 1/15/06. If there are 14 Preferred Rooms at All Star Music for 1/16/06, then the offer will include 1 discounted Preferred Room (10% of 14 rounded down) at this resort for arrivals on 1/16/06.

If you have booked a room at full price, you are reducing then number of available rooms on the morning the offer is released, therefore reducing the number of discounted rooms offered.

If you plan on staying regardless of whether a discount is released or not, please book your room to ensure availability, then check back to see if an offer is released. If you have no intentions of staying if your room is not discounted you are only reducing the chances of a discount by holding the room.

Also remember, individual Guest Cancellations do not increase the number of discounted rooms available. When a discounted is booked, (even if booked on a courtesy hold with the deposit not due for 14 days) and the reservation is cancelled (or auto-cancelled due to the deposit requirement not being met on time), that room will NOT return to the discounted pool of rooms.

Once all the discounted rooms are sold out, they are gone. The only way addition rooms are added to an offer is if the Resort Management feels there are still too may rooms available for a particular date. This is a very rare occurrence and normally only happens if a group, convention, or wholesalers returns a large number of unused rooms back to Disney.

Hope this helps! :sohappy:
 
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durangojim

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One other thing I haven't seen mentioned here is that depending on where you're staying, a AAA discount can be almost as much as the AP rate. For instance, we're staying at the GF in September in a Lagoon view room. Rack price is $420 a night, I'm hoping for an AP rate but as you all know, they're not out yet, so I booked a room with the AAA rate. That brought the price to $359, a savings of $61. Not as much as the AP rate would be but not bad assuming the AP rate is for $75 off like it is in August. Just a difference of $14 a night which is pretty good. I'm still hoping for an even better AP rate but this helps out alot. Just wanted to give you one more option.
 
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wannabeBelle

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Absolutely True Jim!!!! A good travel agent or a smart consumer will explore all the options to see which is the most Disney for the least amount of money!!!
Thanks JP!!!
Belle
 
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