Official Photography Contest 8/18/12-8/24/12 Poster's Choice

Allen C

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I totally understand that there is a difference between the two. I just really didn't know if Lightroom was altering the original Raw while exporting.

If you look closely at the default settings in Lightroom, there are adjustments to the RAW file that have already taken place. For example IIRC the default setting for Sharpness is +25 (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Importing a RAW file into Lightroom means you've already tweaked the image.
 

Hockeyman

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If you look closely at the default settings in Lightroom, there are adjustments to the RAW file that have already taken place. For example IIRC the default setting for Sharpness is +25 (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

Importing a RAW file into Lightroom means you've already tweaked the image.

I've never really looked or noticed that. Im still fairly to this photography game and learn soemthig new everyday.
 

Allen C

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I was finally able to get into LR. Without touching any of the settings here are the default adjustments:

Brightness +50
Contrast +25

Sharpening
Amount +25
Radius 1.0
Detail +25

Noise Reduction:
Color +25
Detail +50

Slide all the settings down to zero and your image becomes hardly visible.

By simply importing the RAW file into Lightroom (or any other RAW converter), you have rendered your image ineligible for the contests.
 

Hockeyman

Well-Known Member
I was finally able to get into the LR. Without touching any of the settings here are the default adjustments:

Brightness +50
Contrast +25

Sharpening
Amount +25
Radius 1.0
Detail +25

Noise Reduction:
Color +25
Detail +50

By simply importing the RAW file into Lightroom (or any other RAW converter), you have rendered your image ineligible for the contests.

See I don't feel those types of edits should exclude you from posting that picture in this contest, they are minimal adjustments to me. Now had that photo been heavily processed or ran thru a program like Nik Color Efex, Topaz Adjust r Photomatix, then yeah that is a bit much.
 

NowInc

Well-Known Member
A Raw file has to be processed in order to be viewed. This is where it gets a bit tricky: Different companies have different "raw engines". For example the new engine that comes with CS6/Lightroom 4 is different than that of say, aperture (heck, its even different than the ones in cs5.5 and LR3). SOME programs won't touch it at all upon opening, but some also do basic saturation and sharpening without you even touching it. Now, I may be wrong, but from most other photo-buffs I've spoken to, we shoot raw because we expect to do some adjustments. ESPECIALLY regarding things like White Balance and Exposure (more so the former). Does this mean its OK to just start firing off shots without thinking about a final image, of course not. In fact Its a lot more rewarding to get that great shot right out of the camera.

But I digress... I think editing is ok..to a point. For example: Basic HDR is fine (The kind I think is not ok would be the ones where everything looks fake and painted...you know the type). Same goes with basic color correction, cropping, and straightening. Heavy photoshop such as replacement of elements, rubber stamping, airbrushing..thats a no no.

Its not my contest so I am not by any means setting any rules..I'm just trying to help find a happy medium.

On a side note...its been mentioned that people have been sliding away from the contest because they are intimidated by the "Pros". To that I say...don't do that. Just submit anyway! You do realize this is voted on by forum users like yourself, not a professional panel of judges. I've seen MANY photos win that were taken with a point and shoot. Its more of the SUBJECT than the photo in these it seems..and thats great :)
 

Hockeyman

Well-Known Member
A Raw file has to be processed in order to be viewed. This is where it gets a bit tricky: Different companies have different "raw engines". For example the new engine that comes with CS6/Lightroom 4 is different than that of say, aperture (heck, its even different than the ones in cs5.5 and LR3). SOME programs won't touch it at all upon opening, but some also do basic saturation and sharpening without you even touching it. Now, I may be wrong, but from most other photo-buffs I've spoken to, we shoot raw because we expect to do some adjustments. ESPECIALLY regarding things like White Balance and Exposure (more so the former). Does this mean its OK to just start firing off shots without thinking about a final image, of course not. In fact Its a lot more rewarding to get that great shot right out of the camera.

But I digress... I think editing is ok..to a point. For example: Basic HDR is fine (The kind I think is not ok would be the ones where everything looks fake and painted...you know the type). Same goes with basic color correction, cropping, and straightening. Heavy photoshop such as replacement of elements, rubber stamping, airbrushing..thats a no no.

Its not my contest so I am not by any means setting any rules..I'm just trying to help find a happy medium.

On a side note...its been mentioned that people have been sliding away from the contest because they are intimidated by the "Pros". To that I say...don't do that. Just submit anyway! You do realize this is voted on by forum users like yourself, not a professional panel of judges. I've seen MANY photos win that were taken with a point and shoot. Its more of the SUBJECT than the photo in these it seems..and thats great :)


How much does Lightroom 4 adjust a RAW file?
 

WorldDad

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