Not Perfect, but fixable: The potential of New Fantasyland

[Turtle]

For a Fantasyland e-ticket.. Would the Belle's Village area (not Be Our Guest and Enchanted Tales) be big enough to house an e-ticket Villain ride (Like Spiderman or WWoHP technology)? Lots of threads about a villain ride, so what if you go deep in the forest and encounter the villains? It would be the icing on the cake for New Fantasyland

 

[Turtle]

The Fantasyland E-Ticket thrill could be using Spiderman technology and the story would be that the villains want to take over the Magic Kingdom so you have to stop them! The villain encounters would be Hades, Malificent, Scar, the Evil Witch, Captain Hook, Ursula, Cruella, and Pete. And each villain has it's own show scene (this ride will try to be scary) and the conclusion is all the villains together cornering you and then the heroes (or Sorcerer Mickey) comes to save the day.

(This concept is always thrown around)

 

[afar28]

The Fantasyland E-Ticket thrill could be using Spiderman technology and the story would be that the villains want to take over the Magic Kingdom so you have to stop them! The villain encounters would be Hades, Malificent, Scar, the Evil Witch, Captain Hook, Ursula, Cruella, and Pete. And each villain has it's own show scene (this ride will try to be scary) and the conclusion is all the villains together cornering you and then the heroes (or Sorcerer Mickey) comes to save the day.

(This concept is always thrown around)

With the Kingdom Keepers book sucess and the rumored movie being made, a Villains E-ticket would be a great move on Disneys part part IMO.

 

[jdmdisney99]

The Fantasyland E-Ticket thrill could be using Spiderman technology and the story would be that the villains want to take over the Magic Kingdom so you have to stop them! The villain encounters would be Hades, Malificent, Scar, the Evil Witch, Captain Hook, Ursula, Cruella, and Pete. And each villain has it's own show scene (this ride will try to be scary) and the conclusion is all the villains together cornering you and then the heroes (or Sorcerer Mickey) comes to save the day.

(This concept is always thrown around)

Sounds like a plan! Everyone grab your construction helmet and invade New Fantasyland!

 

[Turtle]

Sounds like a plan! Everyone grab your construction helmet and invade New Fantasyland!

The show building could be that you're in the villains "headquarters" or something and you somewhat listen to their plan about overtaking the Magic Kingdom. Then they find out you heard their plan and they're chasing you throughout the ride, so that you don't live to spread the word.

 

[afar28]

The show building could be that you're in the villains "headquarters" or something and you somewhat listen to their plan about overtaking the Magic Kingdom. Then they find out you heard their plan and they're chasing you throughout the ride, so that you don't live to spread the word.

I love that idea! Dang turtle, you come up with the best ideas for Disney attractions. I also think the Hero idea is cool where your going on a "mission" with them to stop the Villains from taking over.

 

[J03Y]

For example, maybe ETwB could ditch the whole improve schtick and focus more on meeting the characters. If they wanted to maintain the whole story-aspect, maybe they could do the whole "deleted tales" route that many of you guys suggest. Of course, this may have to be simplified for foreign audiences.

i wasn't around for this, what do you mean?

 

[jdmdisney99]

The show building could be that you're in the villains "headquarters" or something and you somewhat listen to their plan about overtaking the Magic Kingdom. Then they find out you heard their plan and they're chasing you throughout the ride, so that you don't live to spread the word.

I would like the spy one because it would be deep to have people sort of sneak farther into the forest and be chased by villains through different Disney movie environments ( i.e. Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, Hercules, 101 Dalmations, Pocahontas, etc.).

 

[jdmdisney99]

And each villain has it's own show scene (this ride will try to be scary) and the conclusion is all the villains together cornering you and then the heroes (or Sorcerer Mickey) comes to save the day.

Just thought of this... so practically a sort of Fantasmic meets Amazing Spiderman meets New Fantasyland

 

[J03Y]

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I'm not saying that New Fantasyland is a failure. VOTLM and 7DMC all look like great rides and a lot of fun for all ages. The theming also seems to be spot on and well crafted. What I'm commenting on is the lack of things that could get people excited in a manner like the WWOHP. Disney World NEEDS that kind of upgrade and I'm not sure if this expansion will immediately provide this.

I understand that Fantasyland is designed to be the most appealing section of the park for kids, as it should be. However, like the rest of the park, it shouldn't deter away older guests just because it's cartoony and innocent. Barring a couple of exceptions, many of the new attractions seem specifically targeted to extremely young children, leaving many older folks on the sideline. Not that such attractions are BAD, per se, but there seems to be TOO MUCH of a focus on the little ones. I personally feel that for Walt Disney World to be that special and magical place we all cherish, balance is the key.

it's Fantasyland, the primary focus of that land is to appeal to children it was never really appealing to older guests before, and 7DMT is the best they can do at attracting them as far as rides go. Be Our Guest is also a worthy dining experience, it'll attract adults to FL.

look, sorry that this expansion is built in an area that isn't supposed to have an interest factor similar to WWOHP. so what? FL never attracted teenagers all that much anyway, and really teens would be coming because of BatB and TLM, since ya know they grew up with those movies on a personal front.

can we just agree that there is no way to make FL as exciting as you hope it to be without basically turning it into WWOHP?

 

[Turtle]

Just thought of this... so practically a sort of Fantasmic meets Amazing Spiderman meets New Fantasyland

And the show building exterior would be Malificent's Castle.

Problem is would 4 castles be distracting? (Cinderella, Beast, Prince Eric, Malificent)

EDIT: And if another castle would be distracting then it could be an old abandoned cottage that leads you to a basement chamber or something

 

[jdmdisney99]

And the show building exterior would be Malificent's Castle.

Problem is would 4 castles be distracting? (Cinderella, Beast, Prince Eric, Malificent)

EDIT: And if another castle would be distracting then it could be an old abandoned cottage that leads you to a basement chamber or something

If it were Maleficent's castle it would have to seem far off in the distance and then it would look good. If it would be like an abandoned cottage it could sort of be like a clubhouse thing were you have to give a password. If I had to choose I'd probably go with Maleficent's castle. Kind of off topic here, I also had an okay idea for a Beauty and the Beast dark ride and put plans up here (http://kabootlestudios.webs.com/blog.htm) if interested.

 

[prfctlyximprct]

I think the problem is with the new fantasyland expansion we are only getting 2 new rides. Barnstormer was rethemed, dumbo moved, and all we get is a little mermaid ride and the seven dwarves mine train. For "doubling the size of fantasyland" I expected more.

 

[phi2134]

I think the problem is with the new fantasyland expansion we are only getting 2 new rides. Barnstormer was rethemed, dumbo moved, and all we get is a little mermaid ride and the seven dwarves mine train. For "doubling the size of fantasyland" I expected more.

I think if you expected more, the land would be severely over crowded and there would be no immersible elements. If they did this like Universal does, it would just be show buildings everywhere and the area would be themed to fantasy-street. The one thing I was thinking about was compare this side of fantasyland with the PP and IASM side. That side has PP, IASM, MP and a restaurant. The FLE expansion side which granted is larger has BOG restaurant, LM, SDMT, Dumbo relocated, Barnstomer, Pete's Silly Sideshow and Case Jr Play area.

Yes it is larger, but I think they did a pretty good job with putting in a good number of rides and rethemeing the area. If you wanted a larger ride, I never think that was to be the sole purpose of this area. If you look at the original renderings they did, there was an even larger M&G experience and no Mine Train.

 

[kap91]

Enchanted Tales with Belle is rubbish, and the souvenir cups at Gaston's Tavern are a joke. Other than that, the rest of FLE sounds promising. I'm especially looking forward to SDMT - definitely won't be an E-Ticket coaster, but, in concept, it sounds fun.

One big concern is the show building behind the Dumbo tent. When the Barnstormer first reopened, it looked awful back there, and I don't know what progress has been made toward concealing it from all sight lines. Is this eyesore more hidden now?

It seem's be hidden more, there's still plenty of places it's visible, but nowhere near as bad as it was. It might actually be hard to spot in a couple years.

 

[jdmdisney99]

And the show building exterior would be Malificent's Castle.

Problem is would 4 castles be distracting? (Cinderella, Beast, Prince Eric, Malificent)

EDIT: And if another castle would be distracting then it could be an old abandoned cottage that leads you to a basement chamber or something

It could be made to look like this:

That would be really nice. Only problem would be relocating the service road.

 

[Turtle]

It could be made to look like this:

That would be really nice. Only problem would be relocating the service road.

Shouldn't the Belle Attraction be on the left side so t's closer to BoG?

 

[jdmdisney99]

Shouldn't the Belle Attraction be on the left side so t's closer to BoG?

That would make since! My bad. Either way would be adding more to New Fantasyland, even though it's amazing as is.