Nostalgia: Would it have kept around the extinct attractions today?

KBLovedDisney

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Hollywood and Disney alike are making quite an impact with reboots and sequels and re-imaginings of classic films.

Since we are living in such an age of Nostalgia being at the forefront of the media, here is my thought on this:

If the Disney Co. kept the older WDW rides around just a tad longer, do you think if they promoted them today, would the older rides have had a fresh breath of life breathed back in them and become popular once again?
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I don't think so. Something that's been around forever just gets old and stale. It has to disappear and come back for nostalgia to really be powerful.

Take Maelstrom. It was routinely walk-on. Some people loved it but most people didn't give it a second thought. Only when it was announced that it would be closing did people chirp up with "oh em gee, noooooooo! Maelstrom is my favorite ride evaaaaar."
 

WDW Zandt

Member
Man, what I wouldn't do for one more day with Food Rocks!....

I don't know..there's a majority of rides that are still in effect that I think need to be gotten rid of (I'm looking at you, Peter Pan) and I hear people talk all the time about Mr. Toad but I can't picture any of the old rides having enough of a following in this day and age even with updates.
 

KBLovedDisney

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Hmmm, you all make good points. Maybe if they "temporarily closed" an attraction, and then re-opened it several years plus down the road, it might have that nostalgic affect and Disney could have made bank off of the merchandising following?
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
Premium Member
In some cases maybe....in others no. Technology, societal evolution, and other factors would have influenced a lot.

Could a ride like 20,000 Leagues have been brought back to life? Who knows. I don't think a ride like "If You Had Wings" could have been saved. Sure you could have updated the film for IYHW, but the technology it relied upon is outdated.
 

Fable McCloud

Well-Known Member
A lot of the younger generations would have no clue what some of the older rides were about, which saddens me. I heard so many kids asking if the Swiss Family Treehouse was Tarzan's house. Many kids have never seen 20,000 Leagues or Mr. Toad and many other older movies. I'm not saying you have to stay relevant, but sometimes you do.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
Doubt it. They would try to figure out a way to make it profitable by making a movie out of it...Case in point...
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geekza

Well-Known Member
The attractions that have staying power are those that were originally designed without elements that date quickly, like Pirates and Haunted Mansion. There is some wiggle room for rides that may have some dated elements that can be revised, like Spaceship Earth. Anything based on a film is hit-or-miss, depending on the quality of the ride. For example, the vast majority of people in the U.S. under the age of 40 haven't ever seen Song of the South, but Splash Mountain is still going strong because it was so well-designed and has amusing characters and story. Swiss Family Treehouse, while still interesting to those of us who grew up watching the film, is just something that the majority of folks either never bother to go up into or bores those unfamiliar with the film. I'm constantly surprised it's still there. I'm going to make a point of seeing it when I go in November, because I feel like there's a very real chance it will be gone by the time I can afford another Disney trip.

I definitely think the original Journey ride could have easily drawn crowds to this day with some occasional tech updates and minor changes. Horizons would have been tough because, although it was a fantastic ride, the future it was predicting hasn't even come close to fruition and we live in a far-more-pessimistic society now than when it was built. Nostalgia could absolutely help make a recreation of the first ride a success (even though it will never happen) but it wouldn't have saved the second, unfortunately. Horizons would be laughed at by a lot of folks, were it to suddenly come back today.

I'm also one of those folks who doesn't see any harm in keeping certain attractions around simply for their historical value, for example Carousel of Progress, Country Bear Jamboree, Enchanted Tiki Room, etc. I know the old adage that it shouldn't be a museum, but fifty years on, I kind of think that some of it should be, rather than losing unique parts of both Disney and theme park history.
 

KBLovedDisney

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Original Poster
Horizons would be laughed at by a lot of folks, were it to suddenly come back today.

I don't know about that. I honestly think Horizons would get a big come back. I mean we have CoP that depicts a "future" that now already exists, and I don't think it is laughed at unless I am totally missing something.
 

surfsupdon

Well-Known Member
I think nostalgia should bring in some new rides. Disney's bread and butter style attraction are the classic dark rides. Stop worrying so much on technology and screens and cutting edge and work on some classic dark rides.

Dland has dark rides all over and they all command a wait. Because they are fun and nostalgic. And many of them are "newer" not having opened with the park.
 

geekza

Well-Known Member
I don't know about that. I honestly think Horizons would get a big come back. I mean we have CoP that depicts a "future" that now already exists, and I don't think it is laughed at unless I am totally missing something.
I think modern visitors who aren't able to look at it from the perspective of the time in which it was created might find its outlook for the future as naïve and cheesy. I loved Horizons, but I also saw it as a sincere exploration of the possible directions that mankind might go. Unfortunately, we haven't really moved toward any of these possible futures and, rather, have found ourselves more concerned with whether continuing to wreck the planet is okay if it benefits the current population as opposed to pulling back some creature comforts in order to help prevent catastrophe down the road along with a third group who feel it's too late to do anything anyway. We live in a very pessimistic society at the moment and hope for the future is pretty thin. I've read lots of comments and heard people talk about how bored they are by things like the Tiki Birds and the Carousel of Progress. They think they're hokey and worthy of ridicule whereas audiences went nuts for them just a few decades ago. Horizons would just have it worse because it's failed futurism. Again, I'd love to have a time machine and get in a few more rides on Horizons because it was one of my favorite things about EPCOT Center, but I know in my heart that the original could never work today and even a re-imagining that used up-to-date ideas about the future would face the same problems as the original did in a decade when updating it would essentially require a complete overhaul. I miss the original EPCOT and wish that it had been possible to at least keep up the central theme of Future World, but the time when that could have happened is too far gone. Those of us who miss the "good old days" are dismissed when we complain about thrill rides in Epcot and the invasion of IP into the park. Most of the time, I feel like the animatronic Dad in CoP: tolerated, but hopelessly obsolete. (Sorry. It's my birthday and I'm feeling old today.)
 

SportsGoofy

Well-Known Member
I think the more tangible things that we desire in the ways of "Disney Nostalgia" are cheaper prices, less crowds, less strollers, a keen sense that the guest matters and that every decision is centric towards the quality of show and experience, instead of to the stockholder (of which I also am one).
 

KBLovedDisney

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I think modern visitors who aren't able to look at it from the perspective of the time in which it was created might find its outlook for the future as naïve and cheesy. I loved Horizons, but I also saw it as a sincere exploration of the possible directions that mankind might go. Unfortunately, we haven't really moved toward any of these possible futures and, rather, have found ourselves more concerned with whether continuing to wreck the planet is okay if it benefits the current population as opposed to pulling back some creature comforts in order to help prevent catastrophe down the road along with a third group who feel it's too late to do anything anyway. We live in a very pessimistic society at the moment and hope for the future is pretty thin. I've read lots of comments and heard people talk about how bored they are by things like the Tiki Birds and the Carousel of Progress. They think they're hokey and worthy of ridicule whereas audiences went nuts for them just a few decades ago. Horizons would just have it worse because it's failed futurism. Again, I'd love to have a time machine and get in a few more rides on Horizons because it was one of my favorite things about EPCOT Center, but I know in my heart that the original could never work today and even a re-imagining that used up-to-date ideas about the future would face the same problems as the original did in a decade when updating it would essentially require a complete overhaul. I miss the original EPCOT and wish that it had been possible to at least keep up the central theme of Future World, but the time when that could have happened is too far gone. Those of us who miss the "good old days" are dismissed when we complain about thrill rides in Epcot and the invasion of IP into the park. Most of the time, I feel like the animatronic Dad in CoP: tolerated, but hopelessly obsolete. (Sorry. It's my birthday and I'm feeling old today.)
Well said.
 

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