No Fiesta?

[jmvd20]

I've worked in theatre for over 30 years. It's usually "We've moved opening up 3 days. You've got 2 days to finnish instead of 5. You can't spend any more money, we didn't sell enough tickets to the last show. One of the four of you is taking their vacation time to go to thier brother's wedding. You get no overtime pay. Oh, and the sightlines are bad, can you add some more scenery over here. When you've got a minute, there is a light bulb out in the lobby and the toilet in the men's room is leaking." :lol:

Allright, nevermind then - sounds like were both dealing with the exact same customers. Trying to reason with them is sometimes like :brick:

 

[jmvd20]

Disney rides are like theater though. I have no reason to goto Epcot for a few days, wont spend any money, and they've lost goodwill from myself and others. That's a loss of profits. Happy people buy stuff.

Disney having one out of 30 rides down is not the same as a theater or stage show being completely shut down.

Stage show is down = no one involved makes money

One ride at Disney is down = Disney still makes a ton of money and as a bonus gives us something to talk about on this here discussion forum. :lol:

 

[Vernonpush]

Disney having one out of 30 rides down is not the same as a theater or stage show being completely shut down.

Stage show is down = no one involved makes money

One ride at Disney is down = Disney still makes a ton of money and as a bonus gives us something to talk about on this here discussion forum. :lol:

:ROFLOL: Yes, you're right!

 

[Master Yoda]

I've worked in theatre for over 30 years. It's usually "We've moved opening up 3 days. You've got 2 days to finnish instead of 5. You can't spend any more money, we didn't sell enough tickets to the last show. One of the four of you is taking their vacation time to go to thier brother's wedding. You get no overtime pay. Oh, and the sightlines are bad, can you add some more scenery over here. When you've got a minute, there is a light bulb out in the lobby and the toilet in the men's room is leaking." :lol:

So there is a occupation out there worse than truss engineering.

"You know that house you just worked on for 20 hours straight, we forgot to tell you that that is going up on Amelia island and not Queen's Harbour so we will need to change the pitch and the wind code. It also won't fit on the lot so we need to narrow the plan up by 6". Oh yeah and all the flat ceilings need trays in them and can we still have that tomorrow?"

 

[jmvd20]

So there is a occupation out there worse than truss engineering.

"You know that house you just worked on for 20 hours straight, we forgot to tell you that that is going up on Amelia island and not Queen's Harbour so we will need to change the pitch and the wind code. It also won't fit on the lot so we need to narrow the plan up by 6". Oh yeah and all the flat ceilings need trays in them and can we still have that tomorrow?"

:ROFLOL:

That's no problem, just let the crews modify the trusses in the field. Cut 3" off each end, cut the bottom chords off and make the tray ceilings. Gusset plates, who needs em, some nails and a scabbed on chunk of two by will do just fine. Roof pitch, customer wont notice, not a problem. As far as the wind load - maybe the inspectors wont notice, keeps fingers crossed.

:lookaroun

 

[Vernonpush]

So there is a occupation out there worse than truss engineering.

"You know that house you just worked on for 20 hours straight, we forgot to tell you that that is going up on Amelia island and not Queen's Harbour so we will need to change the pitch and the wind code. It also won't fit on the lot so we need to narrow the plan up by 6". Oh yeah and all the flat ceilings need trays in them and can we still have that tomorrow?"

:lol:
But do your floorplan dimensions match the elevation dimensions? Mine don't!

 

[Master Yoda]

:ROFLOL:

That's no problem, just let the crews modify the trusses in the field. Cut 3" off each end, cut the bottom chords off and make the tray ceilings. Gusset plates, who needs em, some nails and a scabbed on chunk of two by will do just fine. Roof pitch, customer wont notice, not a problem. As far as the wind load - maybe the inspectors wont notice, keeps fingers crossed.

:lookaroun

Ahhh the old days....or current day Georgia.

:lol:
But do your floorplan dimensions match the elevation dimensions? Mine don't!

Rarely. It just kills me that architects draw these plans using software that is accurate to 4 decimal places or more yet they still can't get the dimensions right on the plans.:brick:

 

[JikoMarie]

There hasn't been anything confirmed, unless I missed it, that the theme song has been removed from the ride. For all we know, it could still be there. I hope it is, I loved that song that I don't even know the words to. Like IASW, it sticks with you on the way out.

Someone who experienced a soft opening of GF reported on another thread here that the music has been replaced.

The ride was supposed to be open April 1 and is still not as of today from what has been posted.

Just a technicality but I think that the date was April 2nd. (Not that it makes much of a difference. It wasn't opened either way.)

it will open 4/7/07

As I said earlier in this post, they are doing soft openings right now so 4/7/07 seems doable for an opening. Just wondering where you got this date from.

While I agree that Disney is an entertainment company and yes in theater opening day is opening day but their attractions, at least as I see it, involve a considerable amount more typical construction than you average theatrical production.

I can appreciate that but why doesn't Disney name its opening day two or three weeks later than they think it's going to be. That way, if the attraction's not opened on time, nobody is the wiser and they still have time to work with. If it's done before the date they announced, they just open early. I'm sure nobody would complain about that. It seems like they set themselves up for disappointment sometimes.

However, WDW has known that the website which is a point of first guest contact is inadequate, and like it or not, it's all "WDW" to people. You can't seperate the two. If i had people who represented me who were constantly wrong and did nothing to remedy the problem, then i'd be part of the problem.

This is exactly how I feel about this. (See my rant in the other GF thread) Whether or not WDC is responsible for the day-to-day running of the website or they have contracted this out to another group is largely irrelevant. Either way, a disfunctional, inaccurate website reflects poorly on the company that has its logo all over it.

 

[Master Yoda]

I can appreciate that but why doesn't Disney name its opening day two or three weeks later than they think it's going to be. That way, if the attraction's not opened on time, nobody is the wiser and they still have time to work with. If it's done before the date they announced, they just open early. I'm sure nobody would complain about that. It seems like they set themselves up for disappointment sometimes.

On the surface this would seem like the best thing to do but there are a number of reasons why you don't radically inflate project finish dates. Human nature plays into it a bit. For some reason if you tell someone they have a week to do a 2 day job it ends up taking a week to get done. There is also a financial aspect to it as well. Part of the budget of a project especially the refurb of a business has to do with loss of income due to closure. While a closed attraction is not quite like a closed gas station I can only assume that Disney assigns a dollar value to each guest that they anticipate would go on that attraction per day and compute that in the budget as a loss. If you add too much time into the length of a refurb it can go over budget before it even gets approved. Seasonal spikes in business also play a big role. You don't want your business or an attraction closed during one of your busier time of the year. In the case of Mexico it only made sense to have the completion date prior to the seasonal Easter crowd increase.

 

[juan]

As I said earlier in this post, they are doing soft openings right now so 4/7/07 seems doable for an opening. Just wondering where you got this date from.

That is the date from the master rehab sheet and also on CM personal times guides (All on the Portal)
So soft openings now coincide perfectly

 

[JikoMarie]

According to Merf's update, the CM out front of GF today said that it should be opening tomorrow. Hurrah!