NFL 2015 Discussion Thread

[Lucky]

Browns fire HC Mike Pettine and GM Ray Farmer.

They have the last 5 head coaching changes in their division. They've had more head coaches since 2011 than the Steelers have had since 1969.

 

[Lucky]

Jim Tomsula fired by 49ers after one season as head coach.

 

[NYwdwfan]

Coughlin out as well - although his statement said he was stepping down.

 

[PUSH]

Chuck Pagano and the Colts agree to a contract extension, meaning Pagano will remain the head coach of the Colts.

 

[Lucky]

Coughlin out as well - although his statement said he was stepping down.

Yeah, he only won 2 Super Bowls in his 12 years there. You know how many most coaches have in that time.

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[Lucky]

Forecast is for 0 degrees at kickoff for Seahawks at Vikings this weekend.

That's 0 F, not 0 C.

 

[NYwdwfan]

Forecast is for 0 degrees at kickoff for Seahawks at Vikings this weekend.

That's 0 F, not 0 C.

Wow.

 

[NYwdwfan]

Nick Mangold took in the Rangers game last night. He was caught on camera attempting to taunt Stars players.

 

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Lovie Smith has shockingly been fired from the Buccaneers. And Sean Payton will remain with the Saints.

 

[flynnibus]

Yeah, he only won 2 Super Bowls in his 12 years there. You know how many most coaches have in that time.

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Not sure what this is trying to say... lots of coaches have won 2 Superbowls in a short time period.. or are you trying to say how many giants coaches have won 2 super bowls?

 

[NYwdwfan]

Not sure what this is trying to say... lots of coaches have won 2 Superbowls in a short time period.. or are you trying to say how many giants coaches have won 2 super bowls?

Lots of coaches? Not really. There are 13 all time and he's one of them. Active coaches was just him & Bill. That's a pretty elite list.

 

[rael ramone]

Lovie Smith has shockingly been fired from the Buccaneers. And Sean Payton will remain with the Saints.

I think there is a 0.000000000000% chance that this wasn't to keep Dirk Koetter from leaving. Similar to how they canned Gruden to keep Raheem Morris from leaving.

 

[rael ramone]

A report says Peyton Manning took human growth hormones while recovering from his neck surgery in 2011. The report claims that they were sent to him under his wife's name so there would be no trace back to Peyton himself. Peyton and others deny the report.

Once again a star QB in controversy. Seems like no star QB can retire anymore without something ruining his image, at least partially. Should be interesting to see what's actually true.

The main issue is with the Guyer Institute. Why are they sending HGH to all these people when it has specific restrictions on how it can be prescribed. What are the risks that all these patients having to deal with now.

http://www.wthr.com/story/30834539/...ing-are-true-another-sports-icon-takes-a-fall

The main thing I glean from the above article is the reporter (Kravitz) was given HGH from Guyer. If they are handing out that stuff like candy then they need to be investigated. It's a public health issue more than a sports issue.

 

[flynnibus]

Lots of coaches? Not really. There are 13 all time and he's one of them. Active coaches was just him & Bill. That's a pretty elite list.

Here's another way to view it. This is superbowl 50.. there have been 31 coaches that have won the superbowl... 13 of them have done it more than once. That means more than 1/3 of coachs fit this criteria of winning more than one SB.

Pete Carol is right on the doorstep to do it again.. and I don't think most think of him as some coaching monarch like people respect Belichick.

 

[NYwdwfan]

Here's another way to view it. This is superbowl 50.. there have been 31 coaches that have won the superbowl... 13 of them have done it more than once. That means more than 1/3 of coachs fit this criteria of winning more than one SB.

Pete Carol is right on the doorstep to do it again.. and I don't think most think of him as some coaching monarch like people respect Belichick.

Here's another way to look at it: There have been a total of almost 448 head coaches all time in the history of the NFL and only 13 or 3% have won multiple Superbowls as head coach. I view being in the top 3% of a given profession as elite - but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I'd also disagree in classifying Carroll as "knocking on the doorstep" but if he were to win it would be quite an impressive addition to his resume.

Belichick is in a different conversation entirely.

 

[Lucky]

That means more than 1/3 of coachs fit this criteria of winning more than one SB.

No. Most never win any. @NYwdwfan is exactly right.

Whether the small number of coaches who win one are very likely to go on and win more is a completely different issue.

 

[flynnibus]

No. Most never win any. @NYwdwfan is exactly right.

Whether the small number of coaches who win one are very likely to go on and win more is a completely different issue.

So your argument really is... he's a SB winning coach and has won multiple. Obviously.. only a small percentage of coaches have done that. But what I was thrown by was your 'You know how many most coaches have in that time [his 12 years there]' filter. He's won 2 in 12 years... is that the achievement that is unique? He's won 2 since 2004, is that's what unique? I'm still trying to figure out the 'unique' part of your statement.

What is the unique achievement you were trying to highlight?

 

[flynnibus]

Here's another way to look at it: There have been a total of almost 448 head coaches all time in the history of the NFL and only 13 or 3% have won multiple Superbowls as head coach. I view being in the top 3% of a given profession as elite - but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

But Lucky didn't say he was elite.. but pointed out an achievement that was UNIQUE - that's what I'm trying to understand. He's done something that no one else has from the statement.. which is what?

I'd also disagree in classifying Carroll as "knocking on the doorstep" but if he were to win it would be quite an impressive addition to his resume.

Seattle is playing hot hot hot right now.. and as Giant fans would know.. that's all you need

 

[Lucky]

But Lucky didn't say he was elite.. but pointed out an achievement that was UNIQUE - that's what I'm trying to understand. He's done something that no one else has from the statement.. which is what?



Seattle is playing hot hot hot right now.. and as Giant fans would know.. that's all you need

I didn't use the word UNIQUE either so I'm confused about your point.

 

[flynnibus]

I didn't use the word UNIQUE either so I'm confused about your point.

You said how many other people have done that... 0

That makes the achievement unique. I'm trying to understand what conditions you are evaluating. 2 SBs? Ok, not unique. Two SBs at giants? Two SBs in the 2000s? Two SBs between two dates?