New Tomorrowland @ Disneyland? Is this the year it finally gets announced? No, and that’s OK

[Disgruntled Walt]

No this is.

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No this is, and @Consumer it still looks like a 1980s shopping mall:

 

[Agent H]

Probably not, but I trust the Galaxy's Edge team. Over the past few years since I visited, I had been sucked into the online mantra of "Chapek cheaped out... missing Bantha ride... need more droid walk arounds... change the timeline..." But you know what I rediscovered? The land is awesome! We did Rise twice (best queue in the park, thanks to benches!), Falcon once, and really liked shopping in the market. We lingered at the docking bay restaurant for awhile because the food was good and the shade was nice, and every inch I looked over had some interesting flourish that says "a designer cared about this."

Tomorrowland has nothing like that. Every square inch is a compromise with layers of prior minor refurbishments piled upon minor refurbishments. It's the antithesis of proper Imagineering. It literally tells you a story of "We don't care. No designer with vision is guiding you through this space. It's all corporately compromised."

I agree with this entirely except for the rise queue being the best in the park. That award goes to runaway railway.

 

[mickEblu]

Probably not, but I trust the Galaxy's Edge team. Over the past few years since I visited, I had been sucked into the online mantra of "Chapek cheaped out... missing Bantha ride... need more droid walk arounds... change the timeline..." But you know what I rediscovered? The land is awesome! We did Rise twice (best queue in the park, thanks to benches!), Falcon once, and really liked shopping in the market. We lingered at the docking bay restaurant for awhile because the food was good and the shade was nice, and every inch I looked over had some interesting flourish that says "a designer cared about this."

Tomorrowland has nothing like that. Every square inch is a compromise with layers of prior minor refurbishments piled upon minor refurbishments. It's the antithesis of proper Imagineering. It literally tells you a story of "We don't care. No designer with vision is guiding you through this space. It's all corporately compromised."

Is the Galaxies Edge team still around?

The lack of those things are felt though. I have also warmed up to GE but there is no denying that all the walk around aliens/droids, Bantha ride and more kinetic energy in general would have really helped the land.

As far as Tomorrowland - most of the TL 67 bones are still there right? So technically shouldn’t they be able to revert to that?

 

[Agent H]

Is the Galaxies Edge team still around?

The lack of those things are felt though. I have also warmed up to GE but there is no denying that all the walk around aliens/droids, Bantha ride and more kinetic energy in general would have really helped the land.

As far as Tomorrowland - all of the TL 67 bones are still there right? So technically shouldn’t they be able to revert to that?

Scott throwbridge is back for the avengers e-ticket and would probably work on part of Tomorrowland too if it takes inspiration from fantastic 4.

 

[Consumer]

No this is, and @Consumer it still looks like a 1980s shopping mall:
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When will we finally get the Tomorrowland (2015) ride?

 

[Misted Compass]

Peak Tomorrowland is when one of the directional signs fell off and revealed an 80s sign a few years back.

 

[Agent H]

When will we finally get the Tomorrowland (2015) ride?

Preferably never.

 

[britain]

In fairness, minimalistic long stretches of walls that are supposed to stay pristine, and have very few seams between parts is very hard to do. Nobody will notice if there’s some chipping on the wall of Smugglers Run. But it’s embarrassingly obvious when there’s chipping on the wall of Space Mountain’s queue.

It was very clever of them to have good chunks of Avengers Campus be made out of “pieces of an old Stark factory”. Anytime they can make anything look like it has aged means it won’t look that bad when it has actually aged. Unless they go dystopian or full steampunk, Tomorrowland does not have that option.

BUT they have waited more than long enough to amortize any of the past investments in Tomorrowland and they can tear down and rebuild it if they were simply willing to do the right thing. I get it, they’re waiting for a good IP to pull the trigger. Hopefully F4 does the job.

 

[mickEblu]

In fairness, minimalistic long stretches of walls that are supposed to stay pristine, and have very few seams between parts is very hard to do. Nobody will notice if there’s some chipping on the wall of Smugglers Run. But it’s embarrassingly obvious when there’s chipping on the wall of Space Mountain’s queue.

It was very clever of them to have good chunks of Avengers Campus be made out of “pieces of an old Stark factory”. Anytime they can make anything look like it has aged means it won’t look that bad when it has actually aged. Unless they go dystopian or full steampunk, Tomorrowland does not have that option.

BUT they have waited more than long enough to amortize any of the past investments in Tomorrowland and they can tear down and rebuild it if they were simply willing to do the right thing. I get it, they’re waiting for a good IP to pull the trigger. Hopefully F4 does the job.

It’s clever but boring as hell. lol. And I’m not not sure I’ll give them that much credit. I think they go industrial because it’s easier to build/ execute. The maintenance part is a bonus IMO.

 

[britain]

It’s clever but boring as hell. lol. And I’m not not sure I’ll give them that much credit. I think they go industrial because it’s easier to build/ execute. The maintenance part is a bonus IMO.

I’ll give them credit. I think it is actually on par with how Donald’s boat looks like Donald, Mickey’s house kinda looks like Mickey, goofy’s house, like goofy.

This organic, earth toned, aging factory has these shiny glossy high-tech armor parts ratcheted to it. It’s very Iron Man, and the Tom Holland version of Spidey fits this well.

Now the ride itself… meh.

 

[mickEblu]

I’ll give them credit. I think it is actually on par with how Donald’s boat looks like Donald, Mickey’s house kinda looks like Mickey, goofy’s house, like goofy.

This organic, earth toned, aging factory has these shiny glossy high-tech armor parts ratcheted to it. It’s very Iron Man, and the Tom Holland version of Spidey fits this well.

Now the ride itself… meh.

I ll give imagineers credit on this particular project in that they probably did the best they could with the budget/ time/ space constraints but I think the primary motivation to go industrial there is to save costs on build/design. Not sure this regime thinks that far ahead.

Yeah the ride very meh.

 

[SuddenStorm]

What do you guys think is the best thematic solution for DL's Tomorrowland? Discoveryland steam punk, modern Shanghai/New Tokyo SM esc, 50s Retrofuturism, or something new altogether?

The exact same art style as '67, with the theme of exploring the imagination/inspiration side of progress. Outer Space/Imagination/Liquid Space/Digital Space/Inner Space

Keep Space Mountain untouched- it's adventure thru Space

Get rid of Star Tours, bring back a souped up version of Adventure Thru Inner Space

The Subs are Adventure Thru Liquid Space so leave them

Turn the Carousel Theatre into a modern version of Journey into Imagination with Baxter leading the project.

Autopia should remain intact but with better set pieces than Asimo

Buzz Lightyear should be replaced by an entirely new attraction. Something about digital space

And something something Peoplemover

 

[mickEblu]

The exact same art style as '67, with the theme of exploring the imagination/inspiration side of progress. Outer Space/Imagination/Liquid Space/Digital Space/Inner Space

Keep Space Mountain untouched- it's adventure thru Space

Get rid of Star Tours, bring back a souped up version of Adventure Thru Inner Space

The Subs are Adventure Thru Liquid Space so leave them

Turn the Carousel Theatre into a modern version of Journey into Imagination with Baxter leading the project.

Autopia should remain intact but with better set pieces than Asimo

Buzz Lightyear should be replaced by an entirely new attraction. Something about digital space

And something something Peoplemover

I agree with everything except getting rid of Star Tours. They can put it ATIS in the Buzz building.

They also need to get that Astro Orbitor out of the hub and put it where it belongs.

I also might be ok chopping Autopia in half depending on the Fantasyland expansion plans.

 

[CaptinEO]

The trailer screams retro futuristic. And besides what do you think Disney will actually do that is a better fit theme wise?

I'd say its retro futuristic because of the time period it takes place in. Tommorowland wasn't "retro" when it opened and isn't a great target. People have nostalgia for 60s tommorowland but it's also corny to go back to that concept.

 

[Gusey]

Add vintage arcade games, racing, fighting, shooters, VR games and some new Disney Quest games. Add a bar will attract all the Disney alcoholics. No ticket/prize games.

I miss Buzz's bumper cars and I'd be happy if they could add something like that in one of the empty buildings just to add a bit of capacity