News New Stroller Size/Wagon Rules and Enforcement - Effective May 1 2019

[Gringrinngghost]

Unfortunately, some child medical ailments are not visible. A secure place like a stroller may be what they need. But this is about size of strollers, not quantity.

Nothing would stop them from adding it to the Disability Access Service.

 

[cmb5002]

Do you mean the backpack style ones? Those look pretty cool, and kids love piggy back rides.
A) Hows your back at the end of the day (curious due to center of gravity compared to weight at front),
2) Are people respectful and not bumping into your kid all the time? I could see a squishing possibility.

We have one that allows front, back and hip carry. In all honesty, its never my back that bothers me, but my legs. My daughter isn't a fan when Daddy stops dancing, so sitting is a no go with the carrier. Right now at least. Check back in a few weeks and it may change.

As for bumping. We haven't been in terribly crowded situations, so it hasn't been an issue. I know I feel more comfortable with her next to me instead of stepping height like the Disney rentals. I'll be avoiding the tightly packed/pushing crowds as much as possible by just hanging back.

 

[gobstoper27]

I get the raised eyebrows about the bus like wagons but some of these comments though...like are you for real..rear facing stroller? For a two-year old? Where do they make those at? Is it really that deep? In most cases it has nothing to do with the stroller. It's more about lack of etiquette from the stroller operators.

 

[MisterPenguin]

goes to the store to buy candy

It's just cheaper to keep open sacks of sugar in the kitchen and let them scoop out as much as they want whenever they want.

 

[TheGuyThatMakesSwords]

The problem is this. I use to rent a double stroller and it was well worth it. I think the price used to be $45 for 3 days? My kids were getting bigger and the next time I went to Disney the price had doubled, I think they raised it even higher than that over the years. That was it for me, $45 for a double stroller for 3 days was worth it to me. I didn't want to get on a bus with a stroller or use it anywhere but the parks. The price was raise was too much on top of everything else going up price wise. The kids then walked after that. My kids were right at the point where they should be walking the park anyways. I've seen kids who were like 12 in a stroller which is ridiculous. This was about 2009- 20110.

It wasn't just me who didn't rent the strollers anymore. I noticed a couple of years later no one was at the rental place at MK or Epcot, rows and rows of unused strollers. When I was renting a stroller the stroller places in MK and Epcot were busy, you had to stand in line to get your stroller etc. Disney just drove the price up to much. When you are already paying for a family of 4 or 5 whatever it gets expensive in a hurry. Disney should go light on the price for strollers so people don't bring their own. Disney made the choice to price people out of strollers.

Now this makes SENSE. And it's a clear indication that WDW needs to knock down the "stroller income stream".

To me - the company is working against itself. Occurs often, with "Departmental Budgets". That scenario is ALSO why a Company has Senior Managers, dedicated to the OVERALL well being of the Company. They can over ride departmental budget tricks.

So here is an insane proposal, by a Father whose children are grown....

1. WDW strollers FREE.
2. Stealing a GREAT idea, from another? Park YOUR private stroller, to get the FREE WDW stroller. One goes in, one goes out... no additional space needed.

This is actually not a "Money Loosing" idea. It's an opportunity for WDW to de-optimize ONE department, and optimize the entire PARK.

Or? They could continue to spend millions, building new stroller corrals . Really, they can't build on the swamp land... butt they might use it for stroller parking .

 

[Clowd Nyne]

Wait... How is my wife supposed to get me out of Epcot?

 

[aliceismad]

Wait... How is my wife supposed to get me out of Epcot?

You win, sir. You win.

 

[Clowd Nyne]

When can we ban rented amigos?

 

[Driver]

lol but you know what tickles me, when I see a stroller and the kid is out of the stroller and the stroller is filled with various crap.

And then they want to take said stroller on the bus without folding it and the driver is the bad guy for enforcing the DOT rule of "All strollers must be folded on the bus" That's probably the biggest headache on a daily basis!!!!

 

[Driver]

how about: don't bring toddlers? Wait until they're old enough to really appreciate everything and can walk on their own...the way we did things back in the day.

I don't have a horse in this race but frankly back when I was a kid that's exactly what happened! Stayed home or did something else!!

 

[Driver]

I'd rather they enforce the adult version - the EVC. I can not believe that 95% of the people I see on these actually need them for important medical reasons.

The answer is "some don't !" I've had them tell me straight out they don't need it. They get them because they don't want to walk. But don't get going on that subject because someone will read this and be offended

 

[Goofyernmost]

I'd rather they enforce the adult version - the EVC. I can not believe that 95% of the people I see on these actually need them for important medical reasons.

You would be wrong. I have used one, I will need to use one again and I will swear on a stack of bibles that it is more work to use one of those then to walk.

Not to derail the stroller frenzy thread. But does anyone know what goes into renting an EVC or are there certain credentials that need to be displayed on the EVC (like a handicapped tag) that basically say the scooter is legit?

There is a law, It is called Adults With Disability's Act (ADA). It states that you cannot ask or require any proof of need to use one. I suggest that people just mind their own business and do your thing and spend a whole lot more time trying to enjoy the parks and a whole lot less in attempting to making amateur medical diagnosis.

Is this the one you're looking for? https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/terminally-ill-and-need-scooter.953417/#post-8590336

I'm always saddened when people judge those who use EVCs. So many people are cruel to those with invisible illnesses and "look fine" or "just look fat." I'm sure most people who use ECVs wish they did not have to. (I have no background on whether there is ECV abuse at Disney, just my experience with people I know.)

A lot of busy bodies in the world. Instead of being happy that they don't need that kind of help they just feel like making a big show about how they know that those people don't need one.

The answer is "some don't !" I've had them tell me straight out they don't need it. They get them because they don't want to walk. But don't get going on that subject because someone will read this and be offended

I kind of makes me sad to hear you say it that way. You, of all people know that the number of people that might tell you directly that they don't need one are few and far between. When you factor in the number of scooter users and take away those that really need them, that would be a small group. What percentage would you say, of the total of guests that go to WDW, using a scooter or not, there are when calculated against the number of people that have told you that they didn't really need one. Not offended I just want to know how significant the number is that have said that compared to the people that use them. I guarantee that I could have you load a scooter that I am using and when we get it in the bus and I get up and you see no reason why I am using it, and decide that I didn't need it, you would be very wrong.

Sorry, but, some of that stuff required a reaction:

 

[ToTBellHop]

I would have significantly less issue with the subject if people that used strollers were respectable to those around them. If they were, I could care less what they bring in the park.

And those of you that are kind and aware in the parks with strollers, thank you.

As someone who is courteous (and trying to cut our 6-year olds off the stroller; we swear this is the last year and we only use it ~20% of the day now) I wish people would be more respectful of strollers. There are CHILDREN in there. Cutting in front of me and slamming my kids in the feet or knocking something out of their hands (Plaza Ice cream once when they were 3) so you can get to Mine Train, a kiddie coaster, faster, is extremely rude.

Everyone should be considerate. I love it when I’m pushing the 100-lb (with the boys) stroller and someone behind me with a stroller slams me in the ankles! Can’t wait to throw the stroller in the garbage next year. Still working them up to 10 miles of walking in a day....

I do love all the grown Alien Swirling Saucer adults around here judging people for bringing small children to the Magic Kingdom, however. How dare someone take their 3-year old on Small World. I love Disney World but cannot stand entitled man-children and women-children. When strollers show up on the Vegas Strip, you will have a fair point, however.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

You would be wrong. I have used one, I will need to use one again and I will swear on a stack of bibles that it is more work to use one of those then to walk.

There is a law, It is called Adults With Disability's Act (ADA). It states that you cannot ask or require any proof of need to use one. I suggest that people just mind their own business and do your thing and spend a whole lot more time trying to enjoy the parks and a whole lot less in attempting to making amateur medical diagnosis.


A lot of busy bodies in the world. Instead of being happy that they don't need that kind of help they just feel like making a big show about how they know that those people don't need one.


I kind of makes me sad to hear you say it that way. You, of all people know that the number of people that might tell you directly that they don't need one are few and far between. When you factor in the number of scooter users and take away those that really need them, that would be a small group. What percentage would you say, of the total of guests that go to WDW, using a scooter or not, there are when calculated against the number of people that have told you that they didn't really need one. Not offended I just want to know how significant the number is that have said that compared to the people that use them. I guarantee that I could have you load a scooter that I am using and when we get it in the bus and I get up and you see no reason why I am using it, and decide that I didn't need it, you would be very wrong.

Sorry, but, some of that stuff required a reaction:

This is merely a reaction though to the fact you have another stroller thread, where people are upset over strollers, which children are in and that is just crazy to me, but someone else said earlier some bad stroller operators ruin it for others. Likewise there are some EVC operators that give it a bad name weather through aggressive use of the machine or their using it out of laziness, it seems the two usually go together.

 

[MaryJaneP]

And all along we were led to believe it was the "Americans with Disabilities Act". But, since we have been shown the way, does it mean that only "adults" can benefit from the act?

 

[Goofyernmost]

This is merely a reaction though to the fact you have another stroller thread, where people are upset over strollers, which children are in and that is just crazy to me, but someone else said earlier some bad stroller operators ruin it for others. Likewise there are some EVC operators that give it a bad name weather through aggressive use of the machine or their using it out of laziness, it seems the two usually go together.

Not necessarily, the one flaw that I have found is that the operation of one is counterintuitive. The speed is controlled by a lever on the right side, usually! Even someone like myself, that has driven every type of wheeled vehicle still find myself doing it wrong. If you have ever ridden a 10 speed bike the lever on the handle, right or left, is to put on the brakes. That identical lever on a scooter is the accelerator. In a moment of panic, you automatically tend to grip that lever toward the handle bar except in this case you go faster instead of stopping. They stop by letting go of the lever. Panic responses can easily cause the opposite result. Bad, yes and it is a fault that ECV manufactures should address. I don't know, offhand, what the solution is to that problem, but, I'm sure an engineer could develop something.

I know that there will always be people that will get them just because they think it would be fun, but, with the cost of just getting into the place continues to get high, we can start to realize that paying admittance charges and then more money on top of that to rent a scooter, will make the casual fun seekers think twice about using them. Then perhaps we can all start to feel some sympathy for the users and not have an evil eye pointed in their direction. Enough bad stuff is happening to them already. Try a little understanding.

 

[deWild]

Wait... How is my wife supposed to get me out of Epcot?

I think a better question is where will she put the kids?

 

[deWild]

If Disney were really smart, they'd start charging for stroller parking inside the parks. Add a magic band tap to pay at each stroller parking area. You're welcome Disney.

Get this guy a job. Best idea ever.

 

[disneyfireman]

Just ban strollers as well. The stroller parks are an eyesore that take up so much of the (limited) walking paths.

It would make for a much better guest experience overall. Yes, parents, you can hold off until you toddlers can walk. My family waited and it was a great trip.

I shall BOW to this post. 110% agreed....

 

[Magenta Panther]

Thank god Disney is trying to take some control over what has become the Stroller Roller Derby on the streets of its parks. Or maybe Stroller Bumper Cars is a better description. Here's hoping we can all look forward to less congestion, less visual degradation of park décor (seeing 50 strollers parked in front of the Haunted Mansion somehow detracts a bit from its eerie atmosphere) and fewer banged-up shins.