FrankLapidus
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And Comcast have an amazing amount of money at their disposal.
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And Comcast have an amazing amount of money at their disposal.
Tonka's Skipper
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Well next year?.....that maybe a bit soon.
I do think the monorail between the 2 would be amazing.
I may as well add another possibility.......a 5th park with LOTR, maybe cars land and other character rides.
AKK
Tonka's Skipper
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FrankLapidus
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Comcast have plenty of both.
The debate is completely pointless anyway, Disney are not going to buy the Universal parks and Comcast have committed more than a billion dollars to improving the Orlando Uni parks so them making an attempt to buy WDW isn't anywhere on the horizon at present.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Actually, since they are both public companies we can get a good idea by looking at their financial reports.
Matt_Black
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Well next year?.....that maybe a bit soon.
I'm just saying that for every animated film that's officially part of the canon (the ones that get numbered), they've done something in WDW for the film's release and for at least a few months after for each and every one going back to at least Hercules. I absolutely believe that will continue with BH6, and that they found some sort of loophole. Otherwise, why BH6 for the first Marvel/ Disney animated production instead of a more high profile property? Heck, if they really wanted a superhero animated film that they could promote anywhere that badly, there are plenty of public domain superheroes to pick from.
Tonka's Skipper
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Actually, since they are both public companies we can get a good idea by looking at their financial reports.
As a investor for the last 45 years....I have little regard for financial reports.............they are written like a Hollywood star or member of congress press releases........................it says what they want you to know and believe.
I repeat, asset and the availability of cash or other assets to pursue a purchase is not readily available to the public.
As I pointed out, there is a lot more then cash, to be taken into account in this type of purchase.
AKK
As a investor for the last 45 years....I have little regard for financial reports.............they are written like a Hollywood star or member of congress press releases........................it says what they want you to know and believe.
I repeat, asset and the availability of cash or other assets to pursue a purchase is not readily available to the public.
As I pointed out, there is a lot more then cash, to be taken into account in this type of purchase.
AKK
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Tonka's Skipper
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danlb_2000
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This thread has reached a new level of stupid.
Which is saying something given the levels of stupid achieved by previous Marvel-related threads.
At least no one in this thread has tried to claim that the contract on the SEC site isn't the real one..... At least not yet
lebeau
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At least no one in this thread has tried to claim that the contract on the SEC site isn't the real one..... At least not yet
Has someone made that claim in the past? *shudder*
These Marvel threads never cease to amaze me. I get that self-delusion is a powerful thing and people believe what they want to believe. But how many times do they have to be proven wrong?
What really amazes me is that all of the facts have been available to the public for years now. And yet people who have not made the effort to read the details still want to argue about the details they have not bothered to read.
"I don't actually have any knowlege, but I think you are wrong anyway" is not a winning argument. And yet, people keep making it where Disney/Marvel is concerned.
Tim Lohr
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Comcast made an offer to buy Disney and Disney basically just laughed at them
RyenDeckard
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So you're a terrible investor then?
If you "have little regard for financial reports" then what do you focus on when investing? Magic and dreams?
Tonka's Skipper
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Well Ryen, I use a combination of Voodoo and praying to the Norse God *ODIN*..............both are about as good and believing everything in a financial report.
How about a little direct review of what a company has done and how a company operates and the history of the people in charge? Are they honest and treat there employees well and how long employees stay?
Maybe are they making things in the USA and not sending every job they can over seas?
Are they traded like a company the big boys have marked to be brought out and then sold off in pieces? Smaller investors never seem to make money in these cases.
Is the company building for the future or just the next quarter? Numbers are not the only answer to this question.
You may have noticed all this type of information and more is not given much coverage in a FR.
AKK
How about a little direct review of what a company has done and how a company operates and the history of the people in charge? Are they honest and treat there employees well and how long employees stay?
Maybe are they making things in the USA and not sending every job they can over seas?
Are they traded like a company the big boys have marked to be brought out and then sold off in pieces? Smaller investors never seem to make money in these cases.
Is the company building for the future or just the next quarter? Numbers are not the only answer to this question.
You may have noticed all this type of information and more is not given much coverage in a FR.
AKK
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Tonka's Skipper
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That has really been my point Its more possible Disney would buy out UNI.
However I never said any buy out was likely in the first place, only possible.
AKK
FrankLapidus
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How did you get that from what I posted?
Disney aren't going to buy the Universal parks, I don't think it is even remotely likely.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Guess you forgot about this
lebeu, I'm not asking you to explain the SEC filing, since that isn't the real contract. But you claim to know about what is in the actual contract. Could you please be more specific? The SEC filing was a rough outline. The actual contract would be much more specific - like the exact characters that are being used. It would also have the correct names of the attractions and Island. We know that it isn't called Marvel Universe. So, where in the contract does it specify that it is perpetual. If you have a copy of it, please share it with us.
lebeau
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Guess you forgot about this
I had shoved that deep down in my subconscious somewhere below evil corn and jt's predictions that Universal would voultarily hand Marvel back to Disney because of Coke and Pepsi.
Thanks for the reminder/chuckle.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Oh, you mean this:
Once again a rumor born out of a complete misunderstanding of the Marvel deal.
Disney owns the characters. All of them. Disney gets money everytime Universal sells anything Marvel. Disney gets money everytime a movie ticket is sold featuring a Marvel character no matter which studio produced the movie. Disney can use any Marvel character in any park they wish. The only exception is Disney can't use characters featured at IoA in the Orlando theme parks.
Disney buying out Universal so they could feature the IoA characters in WDW's theme parks would be like someone buying a 5 star restaurant because you really want the super cool salt and pepper shakers.
And why would Disney do anything when it is just a matter of time (meaning months to a few years Raven) before Uni gives up the Marvel IoA rights voluntarily.
Iger checkmated Universal.
@jt04: So how's that working out?
lebeau
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Yep. That was part of it. We spoke about Marvel for the better part of a year across several threads. Each of his predictions show less understanding of business in general and Marvel in particular than the one before it. He also claimed Sony would hand Disney back the rights to the Spider-man film franchise rather than reboot it. and yet somehow the reboot got made and a sequel is coming out. Who could have seen that coming? Other than everybody.