New Evolv AI security scanners & bag-check procedures implemented at the parks

brettf22

Premium Member
I wonder if this is why Disneyland never went to using this system. I’ve heard reasons ranging from “too many bad things got through when DL tested it” to “the union for security folks fought against it.”

I will say, the DL security lines were some of the most frustrating lines in the park. Hopefully WDW can figure out a way not to go back to the “empty your pockets” process.
 

monothingie

Make time to do nothing.
Premium Member
What Disney needs to do it bring back the more intrusive security check, and then offer a TSA precheck like service that allows you to skip the intrusive security. ;)

Actually, Disney AristoCatscan+ service will begin in 2025 at the introductory rate of $39.99/guest/day.
I’d pay extra for the cavity searches.

You got that @Bob ???
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I’m ok with them hassling me over trivial things if means a more secure park, the world is a different place, can’t be too naïve and think everyone has the best of intentions. Just remember the pulse nightclub shooter was targeting/casing DS first.
It doesn’t mean a more secure park. Over and over again tests and the data shows that these types of screenings only keep out a very small fraction of contraband. Just look at why this thread was resurrected and Evolv’s settlement with the FTC.

The Pulse nightclub shooting occurred before there was any security screening at Disney Springs. It was a bad target because people could disperse and not be easily trapped. We keep responding to events by trying to make people easier targets.
 
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DisneyCane

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It doesn’t mean a more secure park. Over and over again tests and the data shows that these types of screenings only keep out a very small fraction of contraband. Just look at why this thread was resurrected and Evolv’s settlement with the FTC.

The Pulse nightclub shooting occurred before there was any security screening at Disney Springs. It was a bad target because people couldn’t disperse and not be easily trapped. We keep responding to events by trying to make people easier targets.
Even the TSA does terrible in the tests they run. Those X-rays are in serious need of advanced AI to help highlight potential contraband.
 

akileese

Member
What Disney needs to do it bring back the more intrusive security check, and then offer a TSA precheck like service that allows you to skip the intrusive security. ;)

They already have this at Disney Springs and it's called using a resort bus.

Snark aside, I wish they'd use the same scanners that Universal Orlando uses. I never need to get wanded over or stopped there. I've popped at WDW with literally nothing in my pockets and no bag (phone/wallet/airpods in hand). Those things just aren't accurate. It does seem to happen more at Springs than anywhere else weirdly. I've been fortunate that I've never had a rude CM at security.
 

Furiated

Well-Known Member
They already have this at Disney Springs and it's called using a resort bus.

Snark aside, I wish they'd use the same scanners that Universal Orlando uses. I never need to get wanded over or stopped there. I've popped at WDW with literally nothing in my pockets and no bag (phone/wallet/airpods in hand). Those things just aren't accurate. It does seem to happen more at Springs than anywhere else weirdly. I've been fortunate that I've never had a rude CM at security.

Couldn't disagree more. This is only my personal anecdotal experience, but I've never been stopped by the WDW scanners and the Uni ones go off all the time. And that's with the same stuff on me/in my pockets at both places. Usually it seems to be my belt buckle at Uni, which is very basic and not even especially large. And even that, some days it sets off the Uni ones, some days it doesn't. So I'm no fan of the Uni detectors.
 

twilight mitsuk

Well-Known Member
Couldn't disagree more. This is only my personal anecdotal experience, but I've never been stopped by the WDW scanners and the Uni ones go off all the time. And that's with the same stuff on me/in my pockets at both places. Usually it seems to be my belt buckle at Uni, which is very basic and not even especially large. And even that, some days it sets off the Uni ones, some days it doesn't. So I'm no fan of the Uni detectors.
which are conventional metal detectors
 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
It doesn’t mean a more secure park. Over and over again tests and the data shows that these types of screenings only keep out a very small fraction of contraband. Just look at why this thread was resurrected and Evolv’s settlement with the FTC.

The Pulse nightclub shooting occurred before there was any security screening at Disney Springs. It was a bad target because people could disperse and not be easily trapped. We keep responding to events by trying to make people easier targets.
Correct. Ultimately it does not stop a determined individual / individuals from creating a disaster. It is a good screen to filter and give the general public a feeling of security, some assurance something is being done. Consider that security personnel dealing with an endless stream of guests, visitors, tourists, not always cooperative sometimes do come across as abrasive, security personnel are not audio animatronics, robots or other non-human entity. Besides uniformed / armed Police are also present.
 

akileese

Member
Couldn't disagree more. This is only my personal anecdotal experience, but I've never been stopped by the WDW scanners and the Uni ones go off all the time. And that's with the same stuff on me/in my pockets at both places. Usually it seems to be my belt buckle at Uni, which is very basic and not even especially large. And even that, some days it sets off the Uni ones, some days it doesn't. So I'm no fan of the Uni detectors.

Fair point. I suppose when it comes to security, every experience is anecdotal. The belts I wear have plastic buckles so I've never been stopped. Disney usually gets me for bags. I find that when I have a 'bag in a bag' situation (like shopping bag), they seems to trigger it.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I just walked through evolv scanners at the Smithsonian today - the security guard said “thank you, proceed to your left and welcome to the museum.”

It’s that easy.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
I just walked through evolv scanners at the Smithsonian today - the security guard said “thank you, proceed to your left and welcome to the museum.”

It’s that easy.
The security guards at WDW are so nice! I had to temporarily use a wheelchair on 2 visits a couple of years ago and they couldn’t have been friendlier or more caring.
 

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