New Everest Info

[Lee]

Originally posted by ArchiDanDisney
Technically, the height of the loop doesn't matter, becuase technically, it's not a drop, it's a loop. Am I correct in my understading here? There is a difference in a loop and a drop. But Other than that, thanks for the info Lee, once again you prove to be a source of accurate insite.:sohappy:

Correct, a loop or other inversion is not a drop.
I was just sort of giving a comparison.
RnRC doesn't really have a true drop, only a curving descent after the midcourse brakes.

Suffice to say, it will be the biggest drop on a Disney coaster in Florida, since Space and Big Thunder don't really have drops of any size.

 

[mkt]

more info.. to resolve the location debate.

I was at AK yesterday, and the construction is taking place in both locations. That's all I can say

 

[ArchiDanDisney]

Originally posted by mkt
more info.. to resolve the location debate.

I was at AK yesterday, and the construction is taking place in both locations. That's all I can say

Look at rob, risking life and limb to get us info! From now on you are Mission Impossible Rob! Better, Stronger, Faster than before! Why, he's the million dollar man!

 

[Bagheera]

Originally posted by ArchiDanDisney
Summit Plummit. But thats not a coaster, so the drop hieght isn't considered when talking about roller coasters. Nonetheless, excellent point.

Actually, Summit Plummet is the name of the slide. The name of the mountain at Blizzard Beach is Mount Gushmore. (Typhoon Lagoon has Mount Mayday.)

 

[ArchiDanDisney]

Originally posted by Bagheera
Actually, Summit Plummet is the name of the slide. The name of the mountain at Blizzard Beach is Mount Gushmore. (Typhoon Lagoon has Mount Mayday.)

Oh, I thought that was the question. OOPS! My bad....

 

[ISTCrew20]

Along With this information, i read a newspaper down here in Orlando. I believe they were talking with Joe Rhode, and he put a big emphasis (sp?) on how there will be carening (sp? agian), forward and backward, Through VERY cold mountain caverns and caves, and how you will come face to face as close to the Yeti as they can get you. Again, it wasnt in those exact words, but it was the same idea....Also, i believe there was a big argument on another post, about how it could be a forward and backward track element with the track still being a complete circut..the only way I see this happening is for the cars themselves to pivot the other direction....Also, I just was looking at the concept art again, and something struck me weird..The drop may be 80 feet, but look at the way its tilted, almost like a banked drop....hmmmmm?....:lookaroun

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by room1313@TTZTOT
Along With this information, i read a newspaper down here in Orlando. I believe they were talking with Joe Rhode, and he put a big emphasis (sp?) on how there will be carening (sp? agian), forward and backward, Through VERY cold mountain caverns and caves, and how you will come face to face as close to the Yeti as they can get you. Again, it wasnt in those exact words, but it was the same idea....Also, i believe there was a big argument on another post, about how it could be a forward and backward track element with the track still being a complete circut..the only way I see this happening is for the cars themselves to pivot the other direction....Also, I just was looking at the concept art again, and something struck me weird..The drop may be 80 feet, but look at the way its tilted, almost like a banked drop....hmmmmm?....:lookaroun

That's cuz...it is It's a drop with a 180º turn to the left incorporated--kinda like what you find on Son of Beast. As for the cars pivoting around, I dunno. Did disney ever call this a complete circuit coaster? If not, it seems to me they could be more subtle by just having the train switch tracks (you know, have a little connector piece of track that can connect with both tracks, and it would switch during a show scene. Turning the actual cars around might be distracting, but could also be kewl. However, the fact that Disney states in its press release that at the top of the mountain, the track ends in a grarled mass of metal, tells me this is not a complete circuit coaster...and if it ends like that, I would assume you will be switching tracks and falling backwards. Ever seen how on Everest, cracks will suddenly appear producings massive ice caverns that people have fallen into and never seen again. It seems to me that would be a very kewl way to get guests into the mountain in a realistic, yet terrifying way.

I wonder if this will have on-ride audio...

 

[Lee]

From what I can tell, the ride both begins and ends moving forward.
So, I feel somewhat safe in saying that switch tracks will be used, most likely 2 of them.

If you come upon twisted metal then go backwards, a switch track is used. Then, at some other point, you switch again to return to forward motion for the last part of the ride.

I think...

 

[Tim G]

Originally posted by ArchiDanDisney
Look at rob, risking life and limb to get us info! From now on you are Mission Impossible Rob! Better, Stronger, Faster than before! Why, he's the million dollar man!

Rob?
Risking his life ??

Rob uses a LADDER !!

 

[Tim G]

Originally posted by mkt
more info.. to resolve the location debate.

I was at AK yesterday, and the construction is taking place in both locations. That's all I can say

Finally... (big grin)

And what do you think of it !!

It's confusing for some...

 

[Matt56]

What is being built in the other area? Do you think it is the long rumored new animal exhibit (Australia or something like that)?

If this is being built, when would D56 announce it?

What happened to that new "BARN" that was being built a few months ago?

 

[Tim G]

Originally posted by Matt56
What is being built in the other area? Do you think it is the long rumored new animal exhibit (Australia or something like that)?

If this is being built, when would D56 announce it?

What happened to that new "BARN" that was being built a few months ago?

To be honest?

Ladders & Chairs :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[MKingdom25]

Originally posted by FourFourSeven
I've noticed that new coasters tend to do one of two things:
.......

Disney is inventing a new type of coaster here - a full circuit coaster that goes both backwards and forwards. It's not surprising it won't have enormous drops, as the new "type" of coaster is the draw for enthusiasts.

It sounds like the storyline will be integral to the ride and half the fun, as well. I don't see any need to make a "supertall thrill ride" here, so I'm not disappointed by this news.

Forgive me for not being a technical guru but what's the difference between a regular coaster that goes backforward/forward and a full circuit one?

Originally posted by Sir Hiss527
It's going to go backwards? That kind of freaks me out.:zipit:. Thanks for update!

Me too Sir Hiss but I might be willing to try it!

 

[Lee]

"Full Circuit" simply refers to a coaster that leaves the station, travels the course, and returns to the station, traveling the track one time. A closed circle of track. RnRC for example.

The other type being referred to is sort of a shuttle coaster.
The train leaves the station, travels some distance, before simply rolling backwards into the station, the way it left. A Boomerang coaster, or Superman:The Escape for example.

Everest will be the former, traveling a full circuit track.

Get it? It's harder to explain than I thought.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by Lee
"Full Circuit" simply refers to a coaster that leaves the station, travels the course, and returns to the station, traveling the track one time. A closed circle of track. RnRC for example.

The other type being referred to is sort of a shuttle coaster.
The train leaves the station, travels some distance, before simply rolling backwards into the station, the way it left. A Boomerang coaster, or Superman:The Escape for example.

Everest will be the former, traveling a full circuit track.

Get it? It's harder to explain than I thought.

Well, technically you are talking about three types of coasters here. You have the non-complete circuit track right, but in terms of the other:

Full circuit refers to a coaster where the train exits the station in one direction, travels the track, and returns to the other side of the station at the end. That is what EVEREST will be.

Closed-circuit adds the requirement to full circuit that the track never break. EVEREST will not be close circuit, as there will be two places where the track you are on will end, and you will switch to a new track.

This is where EVEREST is ground breaking--I know of very few good coasters that are full circuit, but not closed (there are these freaky coasters that use "elevators" of sorts, but they usually aren't too good and therefore you don't find many of them)--Disney will be the first to add more traditional roller coaster elements to such a coaster.

 

[Lee]

You're absolutely correct.
I was over-simplifying it.

Everest is shaping up to be truly unique, which is good.
However, the mechanical complexity could turn this into a "101" nightmare.

Also, that Mummy coaster going in at USF is startin to sound like it is somewhat similar. The vehicles seem different, but both will contain backward elemnts and lots of show.

This is going to be interesting.

 

[mkt]

Originally posted by Corrus
Finally... (big grin)

And what do you think of it !!

It's confusing for some...

If there was a recent satelite picture of the park taken from the same angle as the park map, it'd be a LOT easier to explain...

all I have to say is that this is a HUUUUUUUGE chunk of land

 

[Bagheera]

Did someone say "Huge ... tracts of land"? :zipit: :zipit: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



(Sorry. small Python attack there.....)

 

[dox]

Hey Lee:
Based on everything on-line today about Mummy at USF what are your thoughts about that ride in comparison to Everest? Will Everest also consist of LIM or will it be the rocket rods type technology? You seem to have a lot of info about Everest. I have to admit i was excited about Everest when I first read about it, but now I'm a bit worried it might be too tame in comparison to Mummy. Plus Univ. seems to be going all out adding effects to the ride in comparison to just some large Yeti AA creature. I'm curious how Univ. plans to have a skeleton jump on your coaster car. Then again with Univ/vivendi selling off their company in bits and pieces god knows what will happen to their parks. Plus Univ. hypes their rides a bit too much and at times go for the cheap thrill. Maybe the whole thing will end up like Splash Mt. and Dudley Do Right Falls - Dudley may have a great drop but the rest of the ride is incredibly lacking, whereas Splash is great fun beg. to end and worth a repeat over and over.

Your thoughts.

 

[Tim G]

Originally posted by Lee
"Full Circuit" simply refers to a coaster that leaves the station, travels the course, and returns to the station, traveling the track one time. A closed circle of track. RnRC for example.

The other type being referred to is sort of a shuttle coaster.
The train leaves the station, travels some distance, before simply rolling backwards into the station, the way it left. A Boomerang coaster, or Superman:The Escape for example.

Everest will be the former, traveling a full circuit track.

Get it? It's harder to explain than I thought.

But the train in Everest travels Back AND Forward...

Therefore it is a shutle type... Yes??

So could you please explain your theory..