EPCOT New Costumes for Voices of Liberty to debut soon at EPCOT

Disgruntled Walt

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A minor bit better than now, still cheap and ugly in comparison to what it used to be-

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Basically went from an A+, to an F-, to a C-. So yeah, not inclined to give too much praise for this considering it's still worlds away from what they once were.
Wow, yes, I had forgotten just how majestic these were. It's been too long since I've seen them.

But an imitation of what they used to look like is better than keeping them in their current high school choir uniforms.
 

Trueblood

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A minor bit better than now, still cheap and ugly in comparison to what it used to be-
I agree, the costumes in that picture are fantastic, but I think I might see where they're going.

The American Adventure focuses on the birth of America, so it makes sense that the pavilion would also focus on the colonial period of American history. But, does it have to? The art exhibits have certainly become more contemporary lately, displaying George W. Bush's paintings. I could totally enjoy Disney doing more contemporary things in the pavilion space than the (admittedly still cool) older artifacts.

I'm completely on-board with making the costumes look more modern, with Colonial touches.

I would LMAO to see the forum reaction to costumes like Hamilton.

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hopemax

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These are not good. They are probably easier to maintain, but they aren’t attractive, they aren’t evocative of any actual historical era. I would like these better as CM costumes, like the greeters or merchandise people, but entertainment should have higher quality and standards. I would expect attire closer to what the historical interpreters at places like Williamsburg wear, and this isn’t it. It saddens me that my thinking seems to now be uncommon.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Certainly an improvement - the pastels are an interesting choice.

I would also argue the George Bush paintings in the background really stick out as being modern vs. the classic imagineer paintings in the background. I think it’s wonderful the paintings are on display at Epcot - and indeed an honor to have a former presidents work displayed in the pavilion but it’s still worth pointing out that they change the feel and style of the pavilion.
 

FerretAfros

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The new outfits are bad. At best they look like some of the classier outfits that parade dancers wear at Disneyland Paris. At worst they look like ill-conceived costumes for a community theater production with a bizarre mashup of midieval and 1930's nautical styles.

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The fabrics are all wrong, making them look like cheap Halloween costumes. Instead of the detailed textured fabrics of the past, we now have cheap polyester sustainably recycled textiles that don't hold their shape well, and are of uniform thickness and weight, in ways that don't make sense with the actual clothing they're trying to recreate. These materials are practical for parade dancers who will be moving constantly, sweating profusely, and quickly passing by their audiences, but a poor choice for singers who mostly stand still in the air conditioning with plenty of time for guests to see the (lack of) detail. It seems like the fabric was selected because it was machine-washable, not because it looks particularly good.

None of the costumes fit the performers well. Unlike most CM uniforms, these don't need to be worn by hundreds of people of varying sizes and body types; they need to fit a fairly low-turnover group of a few dozen people. They can and should be tailored to the performers who will wear them on a regular basis; the previous designs were created individually for each performer, creating not only well-fitting garments but also a variety of styles that spanned the centuries. Instead, these all seem to be a size too big for the performers wearing them, with only the sleeve lengths looking consistently correct.

Presumably the embroidered designs were inspired by music notes and clefs and stringed instrument f-holes (yes, that's the actual term), but instead just look like more swirly-twirly-magical nonsense that gets applied to all things Disney. It doesn't read as dignified, or even clearly recalls the inspiration. Instead it only serves to remind us that we're in a theme park, which as Disney management repeatedly seems to think is stupid entertainment for stupid people.

Maybe someone decided that the old uniforms would look out of place when singing classic Americana Disney songs like "You're Welcome" or "Let it Go," and rather than allowing the Voices of Liberty to perform a dignified set list to match their respectable outfits, they decided it was better to dress them in these ill-fitting polyester costumes to match the low-effort song choices instead. It's a poor choice, but one that fits right in with Disney's recent philosophies.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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doesn't read as dignified, or even clearly recalls the inspiration. Instead it only serves to remind us that we're in a theme park, which as Disney management repeatedly seems to think is stupid entertainment for stupid people.
Careful…. Bobs friends will quickly point out that “Disney is a business” and how it simply doesn’t make sense to spend more money on something “nobody” cares about. Don’t worry… they will write it simple terms as if you don’t understand basic business like they do :)
 

castlecake2.0

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If this truly was about cost reduction they would have just stayed wearing the Sears outfits. This sort of continues the trend of World Showcase celebrating cultures rather than focusing on being historic. Same reason the host/ess costumes were changed from colonial outfits a decade ago.
 

James Alucobond

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I think they actually look somewhat better on humans than on the dress form. But ... are the swirls and swashes sewn-on appliqués or embroidery? Either way, they feel flat and costume-like. They should be replaced with some sort of genuine trim, lace, cord, or tassel.
 

ToTBellHop

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Definitely reminds me of some costumes used in Hamilton. I would actually love for the VoL to give us a verse of “Right Hand Man”. Could settle for “Helpless”.
 

monothingie

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop
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Definitely reminds me of some costumes used in Hamilton. I would actually love for the VoL to give us a verse of “Right Hand Man”. Could settle for “Helpless”.
They seem boring.

The CM at SWGE or TOT and I'm sure several other locations have more interesting costumes than these.

I'm not sure why Disney doesn't lean into extravagance and whimsy, especially for such a signature group of performers in the park.
 

Bocabear

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They are too ill-fitting and pastel...oddly overly whimsical for the more dignified American Adventure show and location.... They look like Victorian Circus-themed Ice cream parlor workers... Like a meet and greet handler over at the Fantasyland Dumbo attraction.....and yes, they may look better than what immediately preceded, but these are not good either... They can easily look to the original costumes and see what they should look like... period styling, nicer fabrics, and please tailor them to actually fit the cast wearing them...
 

MerlinTheGoat

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There's something about the style, rope-like embroidery and vested designs of the dresses that remind me more of something out of the old west. Late 1800s or even early 1900s. Give them to regular cast members over in Frontierland. They're not up to snuff for performers/entertainers, and certainly not at American Adventure. But people working at guest services, retail, restaurants etc at Frontierland I could see it.
 

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