News New Changes Coming to the Disney Look 2021

lazyboy97o

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I don't think it would or should at all, but some in here are trying to bring up show as if it would not be okay or fit with the show...

But I think it doesn't even matter, inclusive looks are far more important, IMO, and I hope that is what Disney is doing.
Clothes are a big part of cultural identities. They would make looks far more inclusive than just hair. So why keep costumes?
 

Amidala

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How is it dangerous to work outside with long pants on?

It's extremely dangerous. I've fainted from the heat before (working a glow cart in August in the pinstripe shirt/white pants and white knee-highs costume) and know SO many CMs who've suffered severe heat stroke. Obviously staying hydrated helps, but it's common sense not to wear wool pants, knee-highs and long sleeves when you're standing outside in the sun for hours on a 90-100 degree FL summer day.

Not sure if this is true, but was informed by leads during my time at USF that in CA it's illegal to force employees to work outdoors in the heat without offering a shorts and short-sleeve option. The Hogwarts Express TMs working outdoors at Hogsmeade station in black pants, a long-sleeve button up, a vest, thick socks and sneakers are all seriously uncomfortable at best, and that's just one example. It interferes with your ability to perform your job well and definitely can lead to health consequences.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

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It's extremely dangerous. I've fainted from the heat before (working a glow cart in August in the pinstripe shirt/white pants and white knee-highs costume) and know SO many CMs who've suffered severe heat stroke. Obviously staying hydrated helps, but it's common sense not to wear wool pants, knee-highs and long sleeves when you're standing outside in the sun for hours on a 90-100 degree FL summer day.

Not sure if this is true, but was informed by leads during my time at USF that in CA it's illegal to force employees to work outdoors in the heat without offering a shorts and short-sleeve option. The Hogwarts Express TMs working outdoors at Hogsmeade station in black pants, a long-sleeve button up, a vest, thick socks and sneakers are all seriously uncomfortable at best, and that's just one example. It interferes with your ability to perform your job well and definitely can lead to health consequences.
Interesting. Was always part of the job to me. Yes it got hot.

I didn’t realize shorts or short sleeves actually made a difference to whether you had a heat stroke or not. (Not arguing the claim, I literally have no knowledge.)
 

"El Gran Magnifico"

Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
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Interesting. Was always part of the job to me. Yes it got hot.

I didn’t realize shorts or short sleeves actually made a difference to whether you had a heat stroke or not. (Not arguing the claim, I literally have no knowledge.)
I’ve always felt bad for the CMs working the lots. Especially AK which for me always seems to be the hottest of the parks. I’d think regardless of being allowed to wear shorts - navigating 90+ degrees in caked on humidity on asphalt has to stink.
 

Horizons1

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It's [current year]!!!!
The perfect argument for any situation!

Im not surprised. Disney is all aboard the “inclusion” BS bandwagon. So now a company is evil if they tell their employees that they have to look and dress professional. The scandal of it all!!! Someone please save us from not being inclusive!!
 

Amidala

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Interesting. Was always part of the job to me. Yes it got hot.

I didn’t realize shorts or short sleeves actually made a difference to whether you had a heat stroke or not. (Not arguing the claim, I literally have no knowledge.)
Yeah, you definitely have to know what you're signing up for when you get hired on, no one gets to opt out of working outdoors without a medical excuse. But I'd say anything Disney can do to alleviate discomfort should be done, especially when it's something as simple as that. I remember they covered how to help a coworker suffering from heat stroke during training and removing any extra clothing was one of the big tips.

I’ve always felt bad for the CMs working the lots. Especially AK which for me always seems to be the hottest of the parks. I’d think regardless of being allowed to wear shorts - navigating 90+ degrees in caked on humidity on asphalt has to stink.
Walking around AK in the middle of summer is miserable even as a guest. Can't imagine being stuck out there on the hot asphalt for hours.
 

dreday3

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The perfect argument for any situation!

Im not surprised. Disney is all aboard the “inclusion” BS bandwagon. So now a company is evil if they tell their employees that they have to look and dress professional. The scandal of it all!!! Someone please save us from not being inclusive!!

The inclusion bandwagon? Being inclusive is BS?

This board is a lot different than I thought it was.
 

EPICOT

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The perfect argument for any situation!

Im not surprised. Disney is all aboard the “inclusion” BS bandwagon. So now a company is evil if they tell their employees that they have to look and dress professional. The scandal of it all!!! Someone please save us from not being inclusive!!
Why won't you just be inclusive to a sleeve tattoo of Harry Potter with a gun and a MAGA flag??? These boards these days...
 

Amidala

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The perfect argument for any situation!

Im not surprised. Disney is all aboard the “inclusion” BS bandwagon. So now a company is evil if they tell their employees that they have to look and dress professional. The scandal of it all!!! Someone please save us from not being inclusive!!
If this update to Disney Look is supposed to be more inclusive, I'm assuming it has more to do with past issues like this than with the tattoo/piercing policy. Like others have said, maybe it involves allowing shaved hair or hair with beads/ornamentation? Not sure how any of this would prevent CMs from appearing professional...
 

UNCgolf

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The problem for a huge corporation like Disney is that it's much easier to have a blanket policy that says visible tattoos aren't allowed because there's no ambiguity. When you start allowing some and not others, it can lead to significant issues and potentially lawsuits -- i.e. "why is her tattoo acceptable and mine isn't?"

I'm not saying that means they shouldn't relax the rules. I'm just saying it's not something that can be done at the drop of the hat without input from legal and other departments. You really don't want mid-level managers making decisions over who looks acceptable and who doesn't.
 

Horizons1

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The inclusion bandwagon? Being inclusive is BS?

This board is a lot different than I thought it was.
Because someone has a different opinion/perspective than you and didn’t agree with it? Isn’t this inclusiveness supposed to be about different ideas and perspectives, not just the ones that align with yours?
Why won't you just be inclusive to a sleeve tattoo of Harry Potter with a gun and a MAGA flag??? These boards these days...
Im sorry. I don’t understand what any of this means. Is it supposed to reference something? When did Harry Potter have a gun?
 

_caleb

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I'll have my fiancee weigh in, who worked for 2 years at McDonalds during high school and literally had to clean up human s*** in the bathroom... Just to make it a fair representation coming from someone who worked in a similar area.

"If I'm working custodial for just a little bit above minimum wage, nobody's telling me how I'm going to fix up my hair."

Simple as that. I'd be willing to bet that most custodial cast members would prefer to be in charge of their own hair, lol.
Most people making minimum wage aren’t in a position to dictate the terms of their employment.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Coming from a theatre graduate... There is a difference between a custodian and an actor.

Stagehands don't have to maintain a certain look on the same standards of actors. They don't have to put stage makeup on, or fix their hair for a particular part. The closest that get in appearance to being an actor is wearing a "costume," all black. Ridiculous argument. It literally doesn't make sense in this context.
Eh... while not a costume I’ve been asked to wear polo shirts, dress shirts, “appear business casual” etc. at high end events.
 

donaldtoo

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WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Eh... while not a costume I’ve been asked to wear polo shirts, dress shirts, “appear business casual” etc. at high end events.
Fair enough. I'm pretty sure my main topic at hand was initially more hair choices for other people of color. It's gotten so derailed since my first post that I think I'll just leave it at that and retire my doing in this thread.
 

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