News New Caribbean Beach Resort table service restaurant announced - Sebastian's Bistro

[MisterPenguin]

They should remove any Disney theming from this restaurant just like from any future resorts and from the Disney store in Disney Springs or anywhere in Disney Springs. Disney theming has no place on Disney property. When I go to someplace on Disney property, the last thing I want is to be reminded I'm at Disney World.

 

[LSLS]

I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think an interior needs to be a “beach bar” feel just because it has a “Caribbean” exterior. Most restaurants don’t, even in the Caribbean.

As far as menu, I’m definitely expecting prices and items similar to a Landshark.. which are in line with all other Disney resort TS restaurants.. some items may be priced a little more or a little less, but comparable.

No, I think it makes more sense when you have a very cartoony logo. Think of it like this. To me, the outside looks like something like a landshark restaurant, while the interior is fancier. I would argue that the outside theming does not match the interior. And I still go back to the idea of having a smiling crab on the sign. If you are correct about the menu, then I would say they failed interior design.

But at any rate, it's probably not worth worrying too much about til its finished with menum

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

They should remove any Disney theming from this restaurant just like from any future resorts and from the Disney store in Disney Springs or anywhere in Disney Springs. Disney theming has no place on Disney property. When I go to someplace on Disney property, the last thing I want is to be reminded I'm at Disney World.

I for one am still waiting for this to come to fruition: https://www.yesterland.com/disneyparks.html

 

[SteamboatJoe]

No, Sebastian himself is from Jamaica (an Island in the Caribbean).. sings calypso music (originated in Trinidad and Tobago, played throughout the Caribbean countries)..

Disney doesn’t have to stretch here, both of those things exist in the Caribbean.

I am familiar with the location of Jamaica and Calypso music. Yes, Sebastian is Caribbean, not arguing that. I just think the way they are using him here is a little lazy based on what I have seen so far. Maybe I'll change my mind once I know the story this restaurant is telling and/or see the final product.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

It's marketing and brand recognition. I wish more people saw this.

Marketing and brand recognition is valuable, necessary, and appropriate. Not to mention well-earned by TDO. What is proprietary at a Disney Resort or Park?

But I feel we've all probably wasted a lot of time on this silliness

Word.

Does it being called Sebastian's make you want to go there more than it being called Shutters?

Only because I thought Shutters was a particularly odd/bad/uninviting name. Shutters usually keep things in. Shutters go up when a hurricane is coming. Shutters have zero to do with food. I didn't get it at all. I've eaten there twice, stayed at CBR several times (it was our favorite resort for several years. And certain times of the year, we were booking with FL discounts for under $120/night. Won't expect that anymore, but it's all good!)

I just hate the reliance on characters because they don't think what they have to offer is appealing enough.

That's a broad assumption. They don't think what they have to offer is good enough? If you're going for a theme, and you have a successful character/story/etc that fits the theme, why reinvent the wheel? Do we want even more new characters in the parks created just for the parks just for the sake of creating more characters for the parks (and resorts?)

Many, many people are going to appreciate that and see it as a Disney plus. Hard core overanalyzing superfans are the only ones it's going to bug, and the logic behind the bug is debatable IMO.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

As far as menu, I’m definitely expecting prices and items similar to a Landshark.. which are in line with all other Disney resort TS restaurants.. some items may be priced a little more or a little less, but comparable.

I really really want my pulled pork sandwich with Caribbean relish back. I would go to that resort just for that sandwich no matter where I was staying, and sometimes get one to go when we were driving back home. Not expecting it. Just hoping something similar.

alling it Louis's Les Poissons or something like that would've brought in the desired IP, stayed true to story, and would've been comical.

I would have to look that up to know what it is. I know who Sebastian is. I'm old.

 

[SteamboatJoe]

I really really want my pulled pork sandwich with Caribbean relish back. I would go to that resort just for that sandwich no matter where I was staying, and sometimes get one to go when we were driving back home. Not expecting it. Just hoping something similar.



I would have to look that up to know what it is. I know who Sebastian is. I'm old.

He is the one who tries to cook Sebastian

 

[21stamps]

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No, I think it makes more sense when you have a very cartoony logo. Think of it like this. To me, the outside looks like something like a landshark restaurant, while the interior is fancier. I would argue that the outside theming does not match the interior. And I still go back to the idea of having a smiling crab on the sign. If you are correct about the menu, then I would say they failed interior design.

But at any rate, it's probably not worth worrying too much about til its finished with menum

The menu says Caribbean and Latin.. I’m expecting it to be great!

I just see so many restaurants that look like that from the outside, and are casual table dining inside.. I think it’s normal.
The inside doesn’t scream “fine dining” to me at all, I’m hopping the prices align with that. Entrees in the $20-$30 range, maybe a couple specialties a little higher, and a few sandwiches a little lower.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

the only thematic tie in is the accent of the voice actor.

Cool!

Disney doesn’t have to stretch here, both of those things exist in the Caribbean.

Some people would require the character to have been in a movie about a restaurant specifically on a real island in the Caribbean (not a made up one that sounds almost like a real one.) And some wouldn’t even be happy with the restaurant movie (see Ratatouille in Epcot.)

No, I think it makes more sense when you have a very cartoony logo. Think of it like this. To me, the outside looks like something like a landshark restaurant, while the interior is fancier. I would argue that the outside theming does not match the interior. And I still go back to the idea of having a smiling crab on the sign. If you are correct about the menu, then I would say they failed interior design.

But at any rate, it's probably not worth worrying too much about til its finished with menum

So apparently a cartoon can’t be “fancy.”

I am familiar with the location of Jamaica and Calypso music. Yes, Sebastian is Caribbean, not arguing that. I just think the way they are using him here is a little lazy based on what I have seen so far. Maybe I'll change my mind once I know the story this restaurant is telling and/or see the final product.

Maybe they’ll make a short about Sebastian in the Caribbean.

He is the one who tries to cook Sebastian

Cool, throw him into the storyline/restaurant.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

My first thought upon seeing the exterior was “Harvest Caye, Belize” perfectly cute Caribbean island. Obviously created to be tourist centric, still has the vibe, but definitely a bubble.

I haven’t been to CBR, so I don’t know what their other buildings look like in person.. but from photos I’ve seen, this appears completely “in theme”. May be different in person though.

Caribbean looks like an over the top facsimile of what 1980s Americans thought they’d find in the Caribbean. When in reality there are goats grazing next to mailboxes and shanties next to the entrance to 5 Star places in Jamaica. Heightened reality...That’s disney. It was priced appropriately then. Now?...really overpriced for the tacky look.

Yes, it’s a bubble, a partnership between Belize and NCL.. but it tries to be authentic in many ways. It does a good job of both.

That pretty much sums up Disney for me. I’ve never felt completely “transported” anywhere on property. The themes are all good, but they are what they are. A themed dumbed down tourist destination, not an exact replica.

You’re not seriously using cruise islands as an example, are you?

Those are designed to make stupido Americans feel like they’ve gone “native” while using their cruise charge.

You can’t be serious...

Do you know backstory of castaway key?

Or that there’s razor wire and machine guns between the royal Caribbean loungers and the natives at labadee?

 

[21stamps]

Caribbean looks like an over the top facsimile of what 1980s Americans thought they’d find in the Caribbean. When in reality there are goats grazing next to mailboxes and shanties next to the entrance to 5 Star places in Jamaica. Heightened reality...That’s disney. It was priced appropriately then. Now?...really overpriced for the tacky look.



You’re not seriously using cruise islands as an example, are you?

Those are designed to make stupido Americans feel like they’ve gone “native” while using their cruise charge.

You can’t be serious...

Do you know backstory of castaway key?

Or that there’s razor wire and machine guns between the royal Caribbean loungers and the natives at labadee?

I specifically compared it to Harvest Caye, because that port is different than all of the other “cruise owned ports”. It was a partnership with the Belize government. The food and drinks are not “included” with your cruise fare. Workers are locals.. local shops, stands, local made jewelry etc..the buildings were made with very strict rules and local supplies. It’s truly a ”taste of Belize” but a completely sanitized version.. just like Disney tries to accomplish.
The taste, but not the grit.
It should make you want to explore the real thing, not replace it.

 

[larryz]

They should remove any Disney theming from this restaurant just like from any future resorts and from the Disney store in Disney Springs or anywhere in Disney Springs. Disney theming has no place on Disney property. When I go to someplace on Disney property, the last thing I want is to be reminded I'm at Disney World.

Well, that's the settlement I expect after that dog lawsuit.

Welcome to Susan's Doggone Dog Training World.

 

[FigmentForver96]

Interested in seeing the menu although def a place I would try once. I guess my life is to short to get high blood pressure from a restaraunt with a Disney character on it.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Caribbean looks like an over the top facsimile of what 1980s Americans thought they’d find in the Caribbean. When in reality there are goats grazing next to mailboxes and shanties next to the entrance to 5 Star places in Jamaica. Heightened reality...That’s disney. It was priced appropriately then. Now?...really overpriced for the tacky look.



You’re not seriously using cruise islands as an example, are you?

Those are designed to make stupido Americans feel like they’ve gone “native” while using their cruise charge.

You can’t be serious...

Do you know backstory of castaway key?

Or that there’s razor wire and machine guns between the royal Caribbean loungers and the natives at labadee?

Ah, the gritty realism typical of a Disney resort.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ah, the gritty realism typical of a Disney resort.

Granted...it’s not supposed to be...nor do we want it...

By here...a chronic Disney defender tried to defend the pictures of this place as authentic...nah...that dog don’t hunt.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Granted...it’s not supposed to be...nor do we want it...

By here...a chronic Disney defender tried to defend the pictures of this place as authentic...nah...that dog don’t hunt.

What’s authentic at Disney? Do you think people in Europe still wear those costumes they wear at Epcot?

 

[larryz]

What’s authentic at Disney? Do you think people in Europe still wear those costumes they wear at Epcot?

Germany = yes.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What’s authentic at Disney? Do you think people in Europe still wear those costumes they wear at Epcot?

Of course not...that’s not really an argument...at least not for me.

I think it’s just skepticism of the quality of this restaurant based on decor and forcing character ties...but the thread went off course - as usual.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Germany = yes.

I went to college with a bunch of Norwegian girls that always dressed like that...unless we were having a “hot tub Tuesday” Party

 

[larryz]

I went to college with a bunch of Norwegian girls that always dressed like that...unless we were having a “hot tub Tuesday” Party

lucky you...