Never mind

[SuddenStorm]

I have an old Canon that looks remarkably similar to that one, that I bought in Hong Kong many decades ago when I was in the service.

So you're saying that if I bring in a traditional film camera like my old Canon, a Disneyland Security CM in an ill-fitting uniform and in desperate need of a shave will approach me and threaten me with park eviction if I use it at Disneyland?

Or do they just stop you at the bag check tents now for daring to smuggle a camera in to Disneyland?

No cameras allowed! This is Disneyland!

On the subject of Cameras, I received my Grandfather's old Canon AE-1 back in late 2019. The plan was to learn how to shoot properly with film and take up photographing the park as a hobby. Film has a way of just making photos look better when done properly, and I would have enjoyed replicating vintage Disneyland photos and doing comparisons.

Of course, covid happened and I never made it back to Anaheim so the camera's collecting dust and I'm sure the film I bought is now expired, haha!

 

[Rich T]

You need to register with Disney to get a permit ($250) if you want to take any photos or videos in the parks, even if it’s just for personal use.

Disney could implement this tomorrow and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised, though I predict the annual fee for YouTubers will be several thousand dollars.

it’s only a matter of time until the company smells the unharvested dollars.

 

[Consumer]

Disney could implement this tomorrow and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised, though I predict the annual fee for YouTubers will be several thousand dollars.

it’s only a matter of time until the company smells the unharvested dollars.

Honestly, I would have no problem with Disney charging photography for commercial use in their parks. I know museums and gardens usually have policies like that in place and Disneyland isn’t too far removed from those two.

 

[Rich T]

Honestly, I would have no problem with Disney charging photography for commercial use in their parks. I know museums and gardens usually have policies like that in place and Disneyland isn’t too far removed from those two.

Seriously, especially regarding YouTubers who are making a living by visiting the parks almost daily, filming content. I’m waiting for one of them to push it too far by setting up their own talk show set in front of the Partners statue or something.

 

[No Name]

Making a careeer out of YouTube is extremely difficult and often takes years of working for no pay before breaking even, if they ever reach that point. People have this misconception that it’s so damn easy because they only see videos from successful people… you never see the hours of editing or the videos from people who never make a dime.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Making a careeer out of YouTube is extremely difficult and often takes years of working for no pay before breaking even, if they ever reach that point. People have this misconception that it’s so damn easy because they only see videos from successful people… you never see the hours of editing or the videos from people who never make a dime.

Twitch is the same way. Tons of young men approaching adulthood have no idea what they want to do with their lives... and are lured into 'streaming' as a way to monetize their video game addiction. I read an article about it a while back... there are hundreds of twitch streams that get 0 viewers, and people that stream daily with no viewers... just sitting their talking to themselves while playing video games in the hopes that someone opens their stream and doesn't immediately leave.

It's honestly heartbreaking.

 

[Parteecia]

I'm sure the film I bought is now expired

It should be okay if you kept it in the fridge. May not be too late to move it if you didn't.

 

[TP2000]

Making a career out of YouTube is extremely difficult and often takes years of working for no pay before breaking even, if they ever reach that point. People have this misconception that it’s so damn easy because they only see videos from successful people… you never see the hours of editing or the videos from people who never make a dime.

I watch the guys who mow overgrown lawns and use giant turbo blades on tractors to hack away at out of control landscaping. There's two guys in particular that are both in South Carolina, one upstate and one closer to the lowcountry, who I can watch for an hour or two. Just sitting there in front of my big TV, watching them hack away at overgrown thickets and dead trees in swampy vacant lots.

They are getting paid to do the yard work, then they make some extra bucks by also getting a million or more weirdos like me to sit and watch them do that on YouTube.

It boggles my mind that satellites circle the planet, massive Internet server farms use gigawatts of energy every day, and armies of computer nerds invent all the tech to make it all happen. Just so I can watch a guy 3,000 miles away cut the overgrown lawn next to an Applebee's.

The Disneyland version of that, though, is unfortunately populated by too many people who are annoying and dumb as they host their videos from the parks. I wouldn't mind having a beer with any of those YouTube lawn care guys from the Midwest or South, but you couldn't pay me to merely stand next to a Disneyland Vlogger in a short 2 minute Churro line.

 

[truecoat]

Making a careeer out of YouTube is extremely difficult and often takes years of working for no pay before breaking even, if they ever reach that point. People have this misconception that it’s so damn easy because they only see videos from successful people… you never see the hours of editing or the videos from people who never make a dime.

It seems many make money on Patreon rather than Youtube. I know of one person that makes $8500 a month on Patreon reacting to movies. I would assume it's the only way due to the copyright of the material they review.

 

[WDWTrojan]

Tokyo has had weird photography rules for a long time. Got yelled at multiple times in 2015 for taking photos in queues. Bizarre.

 

[Phroobar]

Tokyo has had weird photography rules for a long time. Got yelled at multiple times in 2015 for taking photos in queues. Bizarre.

So the Japanese can take as many pictures of Disneyland as they want so they can build their own Disneyland. But when an American goes to Japan to take pictures of Tokyo Disneyland, he gets yelled at? Says the six year old in the back of my head.

 

[Rich T]

Making a careeer out of YouTube is extremely difficult and often takes years of working for no pay before breaking even, if they ever reach that point. People have this misconception that it’s so damn easy because they only see videos from successful people… you never see the hours of editing or the videos from people who never make a dime.

I never said it was easy. I just said there are YouTubers who visit the parks nearly every day, using them as the sets for their productions, which they then post to YouTube and, if viewed enough, can earn them an income. This is kind of an insane situation. How many other businesses can you think of that would freely allow people to regularly (daily, even) film commercial entertainment shows on their property as if they were the local Public Access studio?

 

[Rich T]

I watch the guys who mow overgrown lawns and use giant turbo blades on tractors to hack away at out of control landscaping. There's two guys in particular that are both in South Carolina, one upstate and one closer to the lowcountry, who I can watch for an hour or two. Just sitting there in front of my big TV, watching them hack away at overgrown thickets and dead trees in swampy vacant lots.

They are getting paid to do the yard work, then they make some extra bucks by also getting a million or more weirdos like me to sit and watch them do that on YouTube.

It boggles my mind that satellites circle the planet, massive Internet server farms use gigawatts of energy every day, and armies of computer nerds invent all the tech to make it all happen. Just so I can watch a guy 3,000 miles away cut the overgrown lawn next to an Applebee's.

The Disneyland version of that, though, is unfortunately populated by too many people who are annoying and dumb as they host their videos from the parks. I wouldn't mind having a beer with any of those YouTube lawn care guys from the Midwest or South, but you couldn't pay me to merely stand next to a Disneyland Vlogger in a short 2 minute Churro line.

At least you aren’t one of apparently millions watching some random person’s hands opening plastic “surprise eggs.”

“Oh look…it’s a little airplane.”

There are a few park YouTubers I watch regularly who do offer up some genuinely interesting insights or historic background on the various places they visit. None of them do videos that feature a thumbnail pic of themselves staring shock-faced at the camera with a caption like: “A NEW CUPCAKE?????”

 

[TsWade2]

Listen everybody,
I appreciate you all giving me more posts of my thread, thanks, but as the title says, never mind. So never mind what I said, I'm overreacting once again, so can we just move on, please? Thank you.

 

[brb1006]

Tokyo has had weird photography rules for a long time. Got yelled at multiple times in 2015 for taking photos in queues. Bizarre.

So the Japanese can take as many pictures of Disneyland as they want so they can build their own Disneyland. But when an American goes to Japan to take pictures of Tokyo Disneyland, he gets yelled at? Says the six year old in the back of my head.

To be fair, privacy is taken very seriously in Japan.

 

[Parteecia]

Listen everybody,
I appreciate you all giving me more posts of my thread, thanks, but as the title says, never mind. So never mind what I said, I'm overreacting once again, so can we just move on, please? Thank you.

Sorry, it looks like when you create a thread you create a Frankenstein's monster. Rampages on out of your control with a life of its own.

Or for a more Disney metaphor, you let the Genie out of the bottle?

 

[Disney Irish]

I never said it was easy. I’m just said there are YouTubers who visit the parks nearly every day, using them as the sets for their productions, which they then post to YouTube and, if viewed enough, can earn them an income. This is kind of an insane situation. How many other businesses can you think of that would freely allow people to regularly (daily, even) film commercial entertainment shows on their property as if they were the local Public Access studio?

You'd be surprised there is almost a Youtube channel out there for everything, within reason of course.

For example some that I've found quickly about some public places:

There is a Youtube channel devoted to someone who live streamed walking around New York City and looking at things like the businesses and people walking around that has almost 67k subscribers.
There is one that live streams the Venice Beach Promenade looking at all the vendors and people buying from them that has almost 100k subscribers.

While Disneyland does have a lot of Vloggers that go to it and live stream about it, its not unique. There are literally millions of channels devoted to live stream gaming that would put Disneyland Vloggers to shame in the amount of money generated. And that is just viewers watching someone play a video game. And just like Disney the developers want those gamers showing off their product in hopes it gets others to purchase their product.

 

[Rich T]

You'd be surprised there is almost a Youtube channel out there for everything, within reason of course.

For example some that I've found quickly about some public places:

There is a Youtube channel devoted to someone who live streamed walking around New York City and looking at things like the businesses and people walking around that has almost 67k subscribers.
There is one that live streams the Venice Beach Promenade looking at all the vendors and people buying from them that has almost 100k subscribers.

While Disneyland does have a lot of Vloggers that go to it and live stream about it, its not unique. There are literally millions of channels devoted to live stream gaming that would put Disneyland Vloggers to shame in the amount of money generated. And that is just viewers watching someone play a video game. And just like Disney the developers want those gamers showing off their product in hopes it gets others to purchase their product.

Oh, believe me, I watch YouTube more than traditional TV, including things like Abroad in Japan (An Englishman’s view of his day to day life in Japan) and SuperCarlinBrothers (insanely deep dives into Potterverse and Pixar theories). And of course, several good theme park channels.

I love the slice-of-life, quiet walk-around videos from channels such as you mentioned. Someone recently posted a non-narrated long leisurely walk around Europa Park. Beautifully filmed. It’s the most relaxing thing I’ve ever seen.

I do think Disney’s going to Inevitably crack down on their daily parasi— I mean, vloggers. For many reasons. It will most likely be spurred by some vlogger going too far and really doing something ultra-obnoxious, but it will come down to these points:

1) Disney loves money, and will probably be unable to resist charging a fee to “professionals” who frequent their parks. While these vloggers get lots of views, it’s a drop in the bucket for Disney; 99 percent of Disney park tourists have never watched any of them. And nearly everyone watching are the people who go to the parks anyway. The vloggers are not expanding Disney’s fanbase.
2) Disney likes to control their PR.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Oh, believe me, I watch YouTube more than traditional TV, including things like Abroad in Japan (An Englishman’s view of his day to day life in Japan) and SuperCarlinBrothers (insanely deep dives into Potterverse and Pixar theories). And of course, several good theme park channels.

I love the slice-of-life, quiet walk-around videos from channels such as you mentioned. Someone recently posted a non-narrated long leisurely walk around Europa Park. Beautifully filmed. It’s the most relaxing thing I’ve ever seen.

I do think Disney’s going to Inevitably crack down on their daily parasi— I mean, vloggers. For many reasons. It will most likely be spurred by some vlogger going too far and really doing something ultra-obnoxious, but it will come down to these points:

1) Disney loves money, and will probably be unable to resist charging a fee to “professionals” who frequent their parks. While these vloggers get lots of views, it’s a drop in the bucket for Disney; 99 percent of Disney park tourists have never watched any of them. And nearly everyone watching are the people who go to the parks anyway. The vloggers are not expanding Disney’s fanbase.
2) Disney likes to control their PR.

Do you remember which channel had the Europa Park walkthrough? I'd love to see that!

I've been known to watch channels like In the Loop, particularly for points of interest near theme parks or cities I might otherwise be going to. Right now I think Coaster Studios has upped their game and so I've been watching a lot of their content (and they are slowly uploading content from their recent month-long coaster trip).

Outside of theme parks, I've really been enjoying a lot of geography (or related subjects) channels like Wendover Productions and Real Life Lore.

As much as it's easy for me to go into "oh those VLOGGERS" mode, there's some quality content on YouTube.
I can see them getting to a point where they crack down, but I do think there's some value to these vlogs, so long as the vloggers don't inconvenience other guests. I could see Disney wanting to control all those videos themselves, but they would need to do two things that I doubt they'd ever actually do: release the theme park footage that inevitably exists and make it accessible, and hire actual humans and not HYPERCAFFEINATED DISNEY FOAMERS OMG for their videos. Since that day will never come, vloggers can stay.

 

[Rich T]

Listen everybody,
I appreciate you all giving me more posts of my thread, thanks, but as the title says, never mind. So never mind what I said, I'm overreacting once again, so can we just move on, please? Thank you.

It’s EVERYBODY’s thread now! Bwahahaha!
Seriously, though, we love anything that gets a conversation started, and—though I wasn’t here to read your original post—it seems to have spurred a discussion about a very interesting aspect of today’s Disney parks. That’s a good thing!