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CaptinEO
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I saw someone pull out their phone on Big Thunder. By the time the train was back in the station security was already there waiting for him.
Model3 McQueen
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Years ago I used my phone to record on ride footage on Screamin', from the front seat, the entire ride and nobody said anything.
Just the phone. I always thought CMs were just waiting for me to drop it somewhere.
Disney Irish
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If this is coming to the US Parks, and there is no indication yet that it is, but if it is then yes you should be fine still recording for personal use. This appears to be specifically aimed at trying to prevent Live Streaming, not to prevent taking a random personal video or picture.
In fact I wouldn't think this would even prevent Vlogging all together even at TDL. So I wouldn't worry about it just yet. If you have any questions bring it up at City Hall and ask for clarification.
Now on a different but related topic, there is nothing to prevent Disney from issuing a copyright strike against any Youtube video posted from Disneyland that include music. I had that happen to me years ago, I had shared a vacation video for my disabled dad to watch and Disney had issued a copyright strike against the small snippets of the Aladdin performance I had recorded from Hyperion. So just be aware of that when uploading personal videos to Youtube, if they have any music there is a potential Disney will issue a copyright strike against the video asking you to take it down and edit out the music. I don't know if the Youtube tools have gotten better or not, but just something to be aware.
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TP2000
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Like so many things nowadays, I'm so confused. 
Literally no one carries a camera or video recorder now. We all use our phones. Constantly. And at Disneyland, they have made it almost mandatory to arrive on their property with a late-model smartphone with an active data plan and unlimited roaming in order to do almost anything in their park; reserve aFastpass Genie+ Thing, look up a menu, buy and eat their food, obtain basic park information or wait times, etc., etc.
But now, if you use your phone incorrectly, a Disneyland Security CM in an ill-fitting uniform with tattoos and in desperate need of a shave will approach you and threaten you for using your phone incorrectly? What the holy hell? What are they afraid of, exactly?
I'm just so confused by everything regarding Disneyland nowadays.
Literally no one carries a camera or video recorder now. We all use our phones. Constantly. And at Disneyland, they have made it almost mandatory to arrive on their property with a late-model smartphone with an active data plan and unlimited roaming in order to do almost anything in their park; reserve a
But now, if you use your phone incorrectly, a Disneyland Security CM in an ill-fitting uniform with tattoos and in desperate need of a shave will approach you and threaten you for using your phone incorrectly? What the holy hell? What are they afraid of, exactly?
I'm just so confused by everything regarding Disneyland nowadays.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
This isn't the late 70s or 80s where dad brings the shoulder held video camera on vacation, or even the 90s with the handheld video cameras.
You'd be surprised but a lot of the Youtube vlogger crowd use modern 4k point and shoot cameras which have a Wifi feature for live streaming.
One example is the Canon EOS R coming in at a whopping 1 lb:
TP2000
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This isn't the late 70s or 80s where dad brings the shoulder held video camera on vacation, or even the 90s with the handheld video cameras.
You'd be surprised but a lot of the Youtube vlogger crowd use modern 4k point and shoot cameras which have a Wifi feature for live streaming.
One example is the Canon EOS R coming in at a whopping 1 lb:
I have an old Canon that looks remarkably similar to that one, that I bought in Hong Kong many decades ago when I was in the service.
So you're saying that if I bring in a traditional film camera like my old Canon, a Disneyland Security CM in an ill-fitting uniform and in desperate need of a shave will approach me and threaten me with park eviction if I use it at Disneyland?
Or do they just stop you at the bag check tents now for daring to smuggle a camera in to Disneyland?
No cameras allowed! This is Disneyland!
You forgot tattooed
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I'm not the one claiming that DLR Security is doing anything, especially regarding anyone using a camera. I would find it very surprising that DLR Security is approaching anyone about taking a picture or video unless a complaint was filed or if the guest was in a restricted area.
All I was saying is that your claim that no one is using a camera or "video recorder" and exclusively using phones at DLR is uninformed. That modern cameras like the Canon one I mentioned are being used for taking video, live streaming, and taking traditional pictures at DLR daily especially by the Youtuber crowd.
@TsWade2 Stop listening to people spouting off in an effort to make others enjoy the parks the way they want them to. The camera policy at US Disney parks has not changed. What you read was about Tokyo.
I personally think the free social media promotion they get with an army of volunteer amateur photographers is too valuable to Disney here in the US for them to ever make a change.
I thoroughly expect to be shooting the Incredicoaster with my DSLR again when I return to DLR.
If you do this again, try it from further back so you get some ride cars in the shot. Love these photos.
I personally think the free social media promotion they get with an army of volunteer amateur photographers is too valuable to Disney here in the US for them to ever make a change.
I thoroughly expect to be shooting the Incredicoaster with my DSLR again when I return to DLR.
I have shot on this ride many times and nobody said a word. I use a Black Rapid strap that goes behind my back and I wrap around my wrist for another safety layer.
If you do this again, try it from further back so you get some ride cars in the shot. Love these photos.
Okay, okay, fine! Thank you! But, guys, next time, be reassuring even though it’s over the top.
mickEblu
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Is it just me or are there way less international tourists at the parks now than when we were kids? Especially Asian tourists. I guess Hong Kong, Shanghai and Tokyo are a lot closer. They want to Disneyland to be a bigger tourist destination but they keep building “Disneylands” all over the world.
PiratesMansion
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If I lived in Asia and had the ability to go to a Disney park regularly, I wouldn't care about Disneyland at all, or at least I wouldn't feel as obligated to stop by if I went to the US. All of the Asian resorts are very good at what they do and have received the bulk of Disney's best additions over the past 20 years. All have wonderful, exclusive E-Tickets and are continuously touting big, flashy expansion plans. There's very little ride duplication between them, something that would NOT be true if they ventured to California. All are gorgeously maintained and staffed appropriately. The overall experience is generally more polished than what we have here. All those perks, and they're all ~4 hours from each other by plane, vs. the haul to get to California from Asia. I'd just jut between the ones closer to me too if I had the option.Is it just me or are there way less international tourists at the parks now than when we were kids? Especially Asian tourists. I guess Hong Kong, Shanghai and Tokyo are a lot closer. They want to Disneyland to be a bigger tourist destination but they keep building “Disneylands” all over the world.
It also doesn't help that DLR hasn't really done the legwork of making the park a true international theme park resort-it would need to be a fully cohesive property for that to be the case, rather than the "Disneyland plus awkwardly assembled appendages" that is actually there. Even WDW, which has its own quality issues often worse than DLR's, feels cohesive as a theme park resort destination in a way that DLR does not. Part of that is logistical superiority in Florida, part of that is the continued flailing of DCA, and part of that is that the leadership of the resort (and of Disney in general) has not really had the vision or drive to change the way it thinks about the place. So what results is a management company that treats Disneyland as a landmark cultural institution and everything else as essentially a bonus feature. That's not the way to get a theme park resort to catch on in the way they want it to.
Any large Asian tour groups headed to USH is weird for me to understand the appeal of, but I suppose there's an appeal there in that it's closer to LA, it's less ridiculously busy than USJ, and it's an actual movie studio.
PiratesMansion
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Going back to the original post, Tokyo likes to do its own thing because they can, as Disney neither owns or operates the resort in any way. Japan in general is also very rule and respect focused, far more so than we are here, so there are a lot of seemingly arbitrary things that we wouldn't bat an eyelash at in a US park that are no-no's in Japan.
They were already the strictest park in terms of ride/park photography, as that is the only Disney park where ride photos/videos (or even queue ride photos/videos) have been regularly challenged or banned. Tokyo's Tower of Terror remains the only place in the world that I've ever been asked to put my camera away in a queue for a ride. So really this doesn't surprise me coming from the experiences I've had in Japan.
I'd say there's a 99% chance that this is a Tokyo-only thing that will not spread elsewhere, unless Disney gets to a point where they feel it is a problem (which frankly I would understand, because there are a LOT of guests who are complete idiots with their phones on roller coasters in particular. Disney is now the ONLY major park operator that allows cameras on roller coasters, so I wouldn't be surprised if that policy eventually changed, but I don't see any reason to believe that now would be that time).
They were already the strictest park in terms of ride/park photography, as that is the only Disney park where ride photos/videos (or even queue ride photos/videos) have been regularly challenged or banned. Tokyo's Tower of Terror remains the only place in the world that I've ever been asked to put my camera away in a queue for a ride. So really this doesn't surprise me coming from the experiences I've had in Japan.
I'd say there's a 99% chance that this is a Tokyo-only thing that will not spread elsewhere, unless Disney gets to a point where they feel it is a problem (which frankly I would understand, because there are a LOT of guests who are complete idiots with their phones on roller coasters in particular. Disney is now the ONLY major park operator that allows cameras on roller coasters, so I wouldn't be surprised if that policy eventually changed, but I don't see any reason to believe that now would be that time).
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