DisneyFan32
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Rambozo
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I'd love to see a toontown based on the original characters.
I'm not sure where to put it though. Perhaps Walt Disney Studio in Paris is the best spot currently available. Their front of the park leaves a lot to be desired. The one idea I've been thinking about lately is Mickey Mouse. You could always go with the Mickey's Movieland idea originally intended for MGM.
I think I might put a smaller Toontown in Disneyland Paris, which would be somewhat based on the new and improved Toontown in Disneyland in California, just as Tokyo's Toontown was based on Disneyland's original Toontown as well. This smaller version, renamed Mickeyville, would feature a copy of Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway, as well as the usual homes and such, but no Roger Rabbit ride. Imagine the Toontown in Disneyland ending right at the entrance to the Toontown Five and Dime (where the Runaway Railway entrance now is), and you have the basic idea for Mickeyville. I'm not really sure how homes with fit within Walt Disney Studios Paris anyway.
DisneyFan32
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I'd rather put Maroon Studios in Walt Disney Studios Park instead. Because the studio park is themed to 1940s Hollywood.
The park doesn't have a 1940s theme, and there will not be anything Roger Rabbit-themed at all, I'm sorry. Besides, it's been a long time since Disneyland Paris has gotten anything even remotely worthwhile.
DisneyFan32
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Maybe next time....
Only if Disney ever bought the rights to Roger Rabbit fully from Steven Spielberg, which I doubt will ever happen now.
I also have an idea for a brand-new castle park, using this aborted concept for Hong Kong Disneyland as a starting point (among other things, Adventureland and Frontierland would be merged into a single land):
The problem with this is that, since it's pretty much fictitious with no place to go, I have no idea what to call it. The only thing I can think of is Xanadu Disneyland or something. But since Xanadu is not a real place, but a metaphor for opulence (an Asian one at that, if Samuel Taylor Coleridge's poem or the Olivia Newton-John movie are to be believed), I have no idea how to end Soarin', which, as you know, typically ends in a park (Disneyland (even though it's at CA Adventure), Epcot or Tokyo DisneySea) or just the city the park is found in (Shanghai). All I know is that it would take place at night, with fireworks going off (some of them forming a Mickey shape). However, I'm trying to come up with a name that's not necessarily tied to any one culture (Xanadu is based on Shangdu, the ancient summer capital of Kublai Khan's empire in China).
The problem with this is that, since it's pretty much fictitious with no place to go, I have no idea what to call it. The only thing I can think of is Xanadu Disneyland or something. But since Xanadu is not a real place, but a metaphor for opulence (an Asian one at that, if Samuel Taylor Coleridge's poem or the Olivia Newton-John movie are to be believed), I have no idea how to end Soarin', which, as you know, typically ends in a park (Disneyland (even though it's at CA Adventure), Epcot or Tokyo DisneySea) or just the city the park is found in (Shanghai). All I know is that it would take place at night, with fireworks going off (some of them forming a Mickey shape). However, I'm trying to come up with a name that's not necessarily tied to any one culture (Xanadu is based on Shangdu, the ancient summer capital of Kublai Khan's empire in China).
When I first started this thread, I was doing it as a way of creating a home of sorts (a homeless shelter, if you will) for ideas of mine that had no place to go in the real world.
Unlike a lot of people here, I like to be ultrarealistic with my ideas, and that means NOT utilizing fiction (i.e., no alternate timelines or "what if" scenarios) or anything that is pure blue sky and nothing more. I like to set up my ideas as if they could realistically happen. But when other things happen in the real world that compete for that spot, I will usually try and work around them if I can, or maybe try and change up my plans accordingly. But sometimes, there's just no way for the ideas to work without having to utilize fiction.
One thing is that I like to use Google Maps to try and see how ideas would fit before I actually work on them. The problem is that a lot of times, the ideas are often bigger than the space that's available. While most people here just carry on with their ideas regardless of space, because the blue sky process is all that matters, I like to be more realistic than that.
That's what this whole thing boils down: me not liking to resort to pure fiction. Even ideas that are set in alternate timelines utilize imagination.
I think it also doesn't help that there are no other places for me to go to post my ideas except here. I've tried posting on Reddit or DeviantArt, but they went nowhere.
Incidentally, I also posted about how Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway could realistically fit in Disneyland Paris' Fantasyland (https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...naway-railway-fit-in-disneyland-paris.980296/), but everyone there said that either it could fit there (without explaining how), or that it would in the Studios park better, or that such a discussion should go in the Imagineering page, even though I thought the Imagineering page was just for what people wanted to see happen, not how things could realistically happen.
Unlike a lot of people here, I like to be ultrarealistic with my ideas, and that means NOT utilizing fiction (i.e., no alternate timelines or "what if" scenarios) or anything that is pure blue sky and nothing more. I like to set up my ideas as if they could realistically happen. But when other things happen in the real world that compete for that spot, I will usually try and work around them if I can, or maybe try and change up my plans accordingly. But sometimes, there's just no way for the ideas to work without having to utilize fiction.
One thing is that I like to use Google Maps to try and see how ideas would fit before I actually work on them. The problem is that a lot of times, the ideas are often bigger than the space that's available. While most people here just carry on with their ideas regardless of space, because the blue sky process is all that matters, I like to be more realistic than that.
That's what this whole thing boils down: me not liking to resort to pure fiction. Even ideas that are set in alternate timelines utilize imagination.
I think it also doesn't help that there are no other places for me to go to post my ideas except here. I've tried posting on Reddit or DeviantArt, but they went nowhere.
Incidentally, I also posted about how Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway could realistically fit in Disneyland Paris' Fantasyland (https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...naway-railway-fit-in-disneyland-paris.980296/), but everyone there said that either it could fit there (without explaining how), or that it would in the Studios park better, or that such a discussion should go in the Imagineering page, even though I thought the Imagineering page was just for what people wanted to see happen, not how things could realistically happen.
Twilight_Roxas
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Well there’s still making a ToonTown version of the Lord Byron Cinema for Runaway Railway like you said Walt went into during his time in Europe with a toon backdrop that could house the queue, and attraction without any problem since the toon version could fit both Lightning Lane, and Stand By entry.
The reason I'm reconsidering doing Mickeyville in Disneyland Paris is because I've seen this article here, which talks about where it can go in Disneyland Paris: https://thedisinsider.com/2022/08/11/why-disneyland-paris-deserves-mickey-minnies-runaway-railway/.
It talks about how it would be impossible to build the land, complete with Runaway Railway, without having to sacrifice, say, the Alice maze, Storybook Land and Casey Jr. The reason that parcel of land was proposed is because of its proximity to a preexisting Mickey meet-n-greet.
Twilight_Roxas
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True.
Another reason I shy away from alternate scenarios or what-ifs and overthink my ideas and always go preexisting parks is because I'm a bit of a Disney historian. I am quite enamored of Disney history, especially Disney park history, and I always try and utilize that whenever I do things for the parks. I'm always using the past to try and justify the future, if that makes any sense.
It's also the reason I don't like to embark on "what-if" scenarios for, say, a park going in some other country in Europe than France, like Germany. Germany was one of the many countries considered for a park early on, but according to William Silvester, who wrote a whole book on the international Disney parks, Germany was nixed as a potential site because "it was found that most Germans preferred to take their vacations in other countries."
I guess I'm trying to combine being an armchair historian with armchair Imagineering, but obviously, they don't go together.
It's also the reason I don't like to embark on "what-if" scenarios for, say, a park going in some other country in Europe than France, like Germany. Germany was one of the many countries considered for a park early on, but according to William Silvester, who wrote a whole book on the international Disney parks, Germany was nixed as a potential site because "it was found that most Germans preferred to take their vacations in other countries."
I guess I'm trying to combine being an armchair historian with armchair Imagineering, but obviously, they don't go together.