MSEP blackout day tickets for So Cal APs

[Californian Elitist]

Disney is money-hungry like that. Slimy, indeed.

They could have dropped the blackout dates for APs. I highly doubt the parks would see 24-hour type crowds.

 

[mickEblu]

Disney is money-hungry like that. Slimy, indeed.

They could have dropped the blackout dates for APs. I highly doubt the parks would see 24-hour type crowds.

PREACH SISTA!

 

[mickEblu]

Plus what's wrong with getting something for free @Curious Constance? We in California overpay for everything. See I can admit when I'm envious of things other people have. Like Lower living expenses in Oregon.

 

[Californian Elitist]

PREACH SISTA!

lol YAS!

I don't have sympathy for those who aren't annual passholders, and I don't believe they would've suffered if Disney had lifted the dates.

In terms of APs, some of them don't even live in Southern California or California in general. For the AP haters who complain about crowds, that's life. Oh, well.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

Oh wow. I legit would have cried if the AP blockout dates were lifted the week I go (last week of MSEP.) Like, come on guys, you go enough.

APs have made my trips nightmares in the past, and I definitely made sure that wouldn't happen again.

 

[mickEblu]

lol YAS!

I don't have sympathy for those who aren't annual passholders, and I don't believe they would've suffered if Disney had lifted the dates.

In terms of APs, some of them don't even live in Southern California or California in general. For the AP haters who complain about crowds, that's life. Oh, well.

Right! Like sorry I was born and raised in So Cal. We all know Disneyland is ours anyway. Lol. I think a lot of APs get a bad wrap as if we re all little heathens with no etiquette and don't spend any money at the parks.

 

[drizgirl]

lol YAS!

I don't have sympathy for those who aren't annual passholders, and I don't believe they would've suffered if Disney had lifted the dates.

In terms of APs, some of them don't even live in Southern California or California in general. For the AP haters who complain about crowds, that's life. Oh, well.

The only ones that are blacked out are CA resident APs.

I'm not an AP hater. I'd have one if I lived there. But I'd still be very unhappy if they lifted the blackout and that's when my long planned trip from out of state was happening.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Regardless, I'm sure it's what, 1% -5%?of the total vacationers / tourists that visit in a given year? Again not on Disney's radar.

Then why have blackouts at all? That they exist proves Disney has some awareness and interest in catering to tourists during the summer.

 

[mickEblu]

Then why have blackouts at all? That they exist proves Disney has some awareness and interest in catering to tourists during the summer.

Good point. There is some awareness. Although I don't think they are done to accommodate the tourists so much as they are to be prepared from an operations standpoint. They expect a lot of vacationers/ foreign tourists especially in July.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Right! Like sorry I was born and raised in So Cal. We all know Disneyland is ours anyway. Lol. I think a lot of APs get a bad wrap as if we re all little heathens with no etiquette and don't spend any money at the parks.

Exactly. Disneyland belongs to all of its fans, but in particular, it is ours (Southern Californians) in a sense that we have easy access to it, like it's in our backyard, and has become tradition to go with your family and friends. I agree with you. I live here, and because of that, I have certain privileges not only when it comes to the parks, but for lots of other things as well. It's the same everywhere. I remember going to New York during the Christmas holiday and wanting to see the ball drop. My family who lives there told me it's always insanely crowded. I understood that. Did I feel ill will towards New York residents for wanting to be in Times Square on New Year's Eve? No. That's a privilege us non-New Yorkers have, and I'm fine with it. That's life, again.

The only ones that are blacked out are CA resident APs.

I'm not an AP hater. I'd have one if I lived there. But I'd still be very unhappy if they lifted the blackout and that's when my long planned trip from out of state was happening.

I wasn't directly speaking of you, just in general. I understand why you'd be unhappy, but in the end, everyone has the same plans when visiting the parks, and that's to have fun and enjoy themselves. There will always be crowds, there will always be someone in front of you waiting in line. Might as well enjoy it.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Good point. There is some awareness. Although I don't think they are done to accommodate the tourists so much as they are to be prepared from an operations standpoint. They expect a lot of vacationers/ foreign tourists especially in July.

And August, which is why they would be protective and unwilling to bend on the AP blackouts for MSEP.

I'm less bothered by them not extending a more generous bone to APs than I am by their efforts to turn the final run into yet another needless marketing campaign.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I remember going to New York during the Christmas holiday and wanting to see the ball drop. My family who lives there told me it's always insanely crowded. I understood that. Did I feel ill will towards New York residents for wanting to be in Times Square on New Year's Eve? No.

To be fair though Times Square is a public space with open access to anyone, not a privately operated theme park with premium priced admissions.

 

[TheOrangeBird01]

Eeek I hate to see some of you sad about the news that the blackout dates won't be lifted, buttttt I'm kind of selfishly ok with it because we booked our trip specifically around the blackout dates in order to hopefully have somewhat lower crowds. I don't really know what to think about it but it's sucks for those of you who it affects.

 

[mickEblu]

And August, which is why they would be protective and unwilling to bend on the AP blackouts for MSEP.

I'm less bothered by them not extending a more generous bone to APs than I am by their efforts to turn the final run into yet another needless marketing campaign.

So then why offer the MSEP blackout passes at all? Since all these park "crazy" APs will pay for it anyway? Again it goes back to my point, it's a tacky move for more money and a lot less to do with operations or accommodating tourists.

 

[mickEblu]

To be fair though Times Square is a public space with open access to anyone, not a privately operated theme park with premium priced admissions.

Wouldn't that strengthen @raven24 point though? At least So Cal APs are paying for the privilege to be at the park as opposed to someone who lives in NY who can just walk up and do it every year for free all while not "considering" the people like Raven who had to fly there and make a vacation out of it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Wouldn't that strengthen @raven24 point though? At least So Cal APs are paying for the privilege to be at the park as opposed to someone who lives in NY who can just walk up and do it every year for free all while not "considering" the people like Raven who had to fly there and make a vacation out of it.

Exactly. Even better for New Yorkers who don't have to pay for a ticket to attend, unlike APs who do have to pay for the privilege. AP or regular guest, we're BOTH paying to be at the parks.

I don't go to the parks and think about which guests are from out of town and which ones are APs. I'm not there thinking about how I can show up almost any time I want, and feel sad for those who live out of town and are on a schedule. I don't do that while I'm doing anything in Southern California, where I'm not a tourist. I think I can say pretty much no one is thinking of other people's feelings and possible vacations when they're out doing activities. You just do them.

I'm not going to feel sorry for living in Los Angeles, being a Disneyland annual passholder, and being able to go almost whenever I want. It is what it is. It's a privilege I have, being that I live here. Same goes for any other popular attractions here in Southern California. I'm not going to feel bad for having easy access.

 

[mickEblu]

Exactly. Even better for New Yorkers who don't have to pay for a ticket to attend, unlike APs who do have to pay for the privilege. AP or regular guest, we're BOTH paying to be at the parks.

I don't go to the parks and think about which guests are from out of town and which ones are APs. I'm not there thinking about how I can show up almost any time I want, and feel sad for those who live out of town and are on a schedule. I don't do that while I'm doing anything in Southern California, where I'm not a tourist. I think I can say pretty much no one is thinking of other people's feelings and possible vacations when they're out doing activities. You just do them.

I'm not going to feel sorry for living in Los Angeles, being a Disneyland annual passholder, and being able to go almost whenever I want. It is what it is. It's a privilege I have, being that I live here. Same goes for any other popular attractions here in Southern California. I'm not going to feel bad for having easy access.

And we PAY for that privilege to be near all these tourist attractions. It's expensive out here!

 

[Californian Elitist]

And we PAY for that privilege to be near all these tourist attractions. It's expensive out here!

Facts! It's expensive to live here, and I am willing to pay that premium. Also this is the only home I've ever known. I've never lived outside of Southern California.

My best friend is trying to get me to move to the South with her. Never going to happen lol. It's cheaper, yes, but the South can't offer the same things Southern California can offer me. Same goes for every other region in this country. If I want cheaper, I'll just move to Palmdale or Lancaster. LMAO!

 

[Curious Constance]

I realize Disney is the one creating the monster. And I realize that spending $3000 a year for 10-12 trips to the parks is nothing to sneeze at. However, I just came back from one trip, and I easily spent twice that on everything combined, so I'd be lying to say I don't get frustrated that Disney doesn't cater more to me and my money. And the fact that because they are so AP addicted, it is starting to make the parks more like a mall hang out than a vacation destination.

I'm not an AP hater. If I was a resident, I'd likely be one too, so I can't blame anyone else for being one.
However, Southern California weather and lifestyle is so far removed from me and my world, I wouldn't live there even if it cost the same as it does in Oregon. We've actually considered it once upon a time, but when we realized we'd have to sell our 3000 square foot house to be able to rent a small shack in California, and we'd have to deal with practically year long summers, we got over that pretty quickly lol. Besides, we much prefer the rainy weather and being surrounded by forests.

Seems weird that when I moved to Oregon from Pennsylvania, Oregon seemed like it was super expensive. And actually compared to the east, south, and midwest, it is. The west in general is way higher priced than the rest of the country.

California isn't high priced, it's obscene!

 

[mickEblu]

Facts! It's expensive to live here, and I am willing to pay that premium. Also this is the only home I've ever known. I've never lived outside of Southern California.

My best friend is trying to get me to move to the South with her. Never going to happen lol. It's cheaper, yes, but the South can't offer the same things Southern California can offer me. Same goes for every other region in this country. If I want cheaper, I'll just move to Palmdale or Lancaster. LMAO!

Same here it's all I know. And yes sometimes it's nice to think of a simpler life but I could never pull the trigger. There is just too much to give up... including all your family and friends.

And you couldn't pay me to move to Palmdale or Lancaster! LOL.

Palmdale ... "where dreams go to die."