More places to get beer and wine at the Magic Kingdom

Disone

Disone

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NMBC1993 said:
When I use the term "drunken idiots" I'm not simply talking about the people who can barely walk or form words, I'm talking about anyone who feels the need to drink, period. The people who feel the need to have a drink as soon as they wake up. The people who are so compelled to have a drink that they can't control themselves enough to wait till their kids are asleep or till they make it back to their resort. Like I said, why is it SO important to have alcohol available in every location on the planet? WDW doesn't sell cigarettes, but what about the people at Disney who want a smoke? Shouldn't we accommodate to them as well? "Oh, but smoking as a deadly, gross habit..." and what exactly is alcohol then?

According to an article entitled "Alcohol Consumption: Losing a Sense of Self" by Leah Rayner (http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f01/web3/rayner.html) - "If one drinks two drinks in one hour or one reaches a blood alcohol level of .02 - .06% the association area of the cerebrum is progressively affected. This impairs one's ability to reason as well his/her judgement."

So it's not really a matter of the "worst kind of drunks" that I'm worried about, I'm worried about the amount of people who have reached any blood alcohol level that could affect the people around them. Magic Kingdom caters to a large crowd of guests everyday, more so than DHS or DAK. In my opinion, Magic Kingdom is barely tolerable as it is, without the booze. What happens when the WDW management decides that Magic Kingdom needs it's own Food and Wine style event? It's a slippery slope. "Give them an inch, they'll take a mile". So, I personally say just cut them off before things get out of hand.
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Woah. Oh my.... I found this a little harsh. Anyway, quick fact check, WDW does sell cigarettes. They are kept under the countes, out of sight, must be asked for, and are about $11 a pack.

I think a glass of wine with dinner at Cinderella Castle would be completely appropriate, except that Cinderella is present. I believe Disney forbids any of its characters to be in a picture with an alcoholic beverage present. Once on Castaway Cay, Jack Sparrow made me put my cup down before agreeing to take a picture with me. He was worried it might have rum in it, and if so, that he would steal it and run. lol. See now Jack... he's your drunken idiot. Me? I put the cup down and got my picture taken. Back at MK..... Crystal Palace with characters.... not so much. Skipper Canteen... I think few single shot themed cocktail beverages on the menu would be great, with a limit of one drink per entree ordered. This does not make me a drunken idiot. And a few alcoholic options with a full service meal is reasonable.
 
ThemeParkJunkee

ThemeParkJunkee

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My DH actually suggested skipping MK on our next trip. I then reminded him that SM, BTMRR, Splash, PoC and Haunted Mansion are MK attractions. He said, okay but just a couple of half days maybe. We would also need to eat at BOG so we could get a bottle of wine. Only then will he tackle Fantasyland. It would be nice try a different restaurant.
 
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Mickey5150

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Disone said:
Woah. Oh my.... I found this a little harsh. Anyway, quick fact check, WDW does sell cigarettes. They are kept under the countes, out of sight, must be asked for, and are about $11 a pack.

I think a glass of wine with dinner at Cinderella Castle would be completely appropriate, except that Cinderella is present. I believe Disney forbids any of its characters to be in a picture with an alcoholic beverage present. Once on Castaway Cay, Jack Sparrow made me put my cup down before agreeing to take a picture with me. He was worried it might have rum in it, and if so, that he would steal it and run. lol. See now Jack... he's your drunken idiot. Me? I put the cup down and got my picture taken. Back at MK..... Crystal Palace with characters.... not so much. Skipper Canteen... I think few single shot themed cocktail beverages on the menu would be great, with a limit of one drink per entree ordered. This does not make me a drunken idiot. And a few alcoholic options with a full service meal is reasonable.
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I'd love a PotC bar with Jack Sparrow as the bartender. To keep it authentic they have every type of alcohol in stock, except rum, the rum is always gone.
 
Castle Cake Apologist

Castle Cake Apologist

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NMBC1993 said:
When I use the term "drunken idiots" I'm not simply talking about the people who can barely walk or form words, I'm talking about anyone who feels the need to drink, period. The people who feel the need to have a drink as soon as they wake up. The people who are so compelled to have a drink that they can't control themselves enough to wait till their kids are asleep or till they make it back to their resort. Like I said, why is it SO important to have alcohol available in every location on the planet? WDW doesn't sell cigarettes, but what about the people at Disney who want a smoke? Shouldn't we accommodate to them as well? "Oh, but smoking as a deadly, gross habit..." and what exactly is alcohol then?

According to an article entitled "Alcohol Consumption: Losing a Sense of Self" by Leah Rayner (http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f01/web3/rayner.html) - "If one drinks two drinks in one hour or one reaches a blood alcohol level of .02 - .06% the association area of the cerebrum is progressively affected. This impairs one's ability to reason as well his/her judgement."

So it's not really a matter of the "worst kind of drunks" that I'm worried about, I'm worried about the amount of people who have reached any blood alcohol level that could affect the people around them. Magic Kingdom caters to a large crowd of guests everyday, more so than DHS or DAK. In my opinion, Magic Kingdom is barely tolerable as it is, without the booze. What happens when the WDW management decides that Magic Kingdom needs it's own Food and Wine style event? It's a slippery slope. "Give them an inch, they'll take a mile". So, I personally say just cut them off before things get out of hand.
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Talk about an extreme post. Having a beer at dinner hardly makes you an alcoholic. You're welcome to not drink, just as much as other legal-age adults are welcome to drink. Somehow the world keeps spinning.
 
Castle Cake Apologist

Castle Cake Apologist

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Goofyernmost said:
As an X-smoker, I would respectfully disagree with the idiocy that attempted to make smoking a criminal event. When I was a smoker, I was practically militant about my right to cater to my addiction. But, you know what, no matter what spin I attempted to put on it, it really was not a good thing to do, especially in a crowd of people. I was wrong about that, but, didn't see what I was doing until I finally realized what I was doing to myself.

I know the argument about... well, my drinking doesn't hurt anyone else while your smoking affected everyone. That too is a lot of bullcrap and you folks know it. I don't care if you folks drink until you fall on your face, but, I also would like to ask how long you can go without that precious drink. If it isn't the duration of a day at a theme park, one might consider that they have a problem and try to fix it before it consumes them and harms everyone around them. More families have been harmed directly by alcohol consumption then all the cigarettes in the world. Reality is a tough concept to swallow, alcohol is easy. It is not needed in Magic Kingdom anymore then smoking is. It's a place for families and children, not a bar where people go to somehow soften life's little disappointments.
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...oooooor, people are on vacation and might enjoy splurging on a drink or two at dinner even if they might not otherwise. This thread is full of a lot of very presumptuous posts.

I often go weeks at a time without having a drink, but I might enjoy having a shot or two at a bar while I'm on vacation. That hardly makes me an alcoholic. People with drinking problems are still going to have them regardless of if Magic Kingdom serves booze or not. That can hardly be drawn into a comparison against the vast majority of people who are more than capable of having a couple drinks at dinner and moving on with their night.

That's not even getting into the fact that plenty of people without children (myself included) vacation at Disney as well, so your "ruining families" angle is definitely playing on empty ears with me. At least where Disney is concerned.
 
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Voice of Disney sanity

Voice of Disney sanity

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NMBC1993 said:
Great....just great.

If this comes to pass, why even try to follow Walt's vision anymore? Just open a micro-brewery in the old Tomorrowland Arcade and sell different craft beers representing all the lands of MK. Heck, why not create alcoholic chewing gum and go the full mile...
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You can't do that no chewing gum can be sold in wdw...those are the rules
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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DisneyExpert said:
...oooooor, people are on vacation and might enjoy splurging on a drink or two at dinner even if they might not otherwise. This thread is full of a lot of very presumptuous posts.

I often go weeks at a time without having a drink, but I might enjoy having a shot or two at a bar while I'm on vacation. That hardly makes me an alcoholic. People with drinking problems are still going to have them regardless of if Magic Kingdom serves booze or not. That can hardly be drawn into a comparison against the vast majority of people who are more than capable of having a couple drinks at dinner and moving on with their night.

That's not even getting into the fact that plenty of people without children (myself included) vacation at Disney as well, so your "ruining families" angle is definitely playing on empty ears with me. At least where Disney is concerned.
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And if you were the only person on the planet, that would be fine. But, you aren't. It may not be you that I'm talking about, but, even if I was there are 42 square miles of places to get a drink in WDW. Having it in MK is hardly depriving anyone of the "joy of an adult beverage". In my mind, you don't take a boom box to church and you don't drink in MK. Somethings are done for a purpose and unfortunately, because you can control yourself does not mean that everyone can. It also might not be YOUR children that I am concerned about... it might be all of them, which is much more important then your desire to consume alcohol. Go the places where you can and it is allowed, leave MK alone. It's bad enough that they have allowed it in the BOG, it need not permeate throughout the park.

Also do not assume that I am against responsible drinking in general, but, some places just shouldn't be involved. MK is one of them.
 
Castle Cake Apologist

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Goofyernmost said:
And if you were the only person on the planet, that would be fine. But, you aren't. It may not be you that I'm talking about, but, even if I was there are 42 square miles of places to get a drink in WDW. Having it in MK is hardly depriving anyone of the "joy of an adult beverage". In my mind, you don't take a boom box to church and you don't drink in MK. Somethings are done for a purpose and unfortunately, because you can control yourself does not mean that everyone can. It also might not be YOUR children that I am concerned about... it might be all of them, which is much more important then your desire to consume alcohol. Go the places where you can and it is allowed, leave MK alone. It's bad enough that they have allowed it in the BOG, it need not permeate throughout the park.

Also do not assume that I am against responsible drinking in general, but, some places just shouldn't be involved. MK is one of them.
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I also never offered an opinion one way or the other on whether I think MK should serve alcohol. I'm just not a fan of all the ridiculous posts in here basically assuming that anybody who has a drink at any point in their life is an alcoholic who can't control himself and is going to harm children or break apart a family.
 
yeti

yeti

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Goofyernmost said:
I know the argument about... well, my drinking doesn't hurt anyone else while your smoking affected everyone. That too is a lot of bullcrap and you folks know it. I don't care if you folks drink until you fall on your face, but, I also would like to ask how long you can go without that precious drink. If it isn't the duration of a day at a theme park, one might consider that they have a problem and try to fix it before it consumes them and harms everyone around them. More families have been harmed directly by alcohol consumption then all the cigarettes in the world. Reality is a tough concept to swallow, alcohol is easy. It is not needed in Magic Kingdom anymore then smoking is. It's a place for families and children, not a bar where people go to somehow soften life's little disappointments.
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There's no second hand drinking...unless you're stone drunk and belligerent you're not harming anyone. Believe it or not, someone can want a drink without having a drinking problem.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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DisneyExpert said:
I also never offered an opinion one way or the other on whether I think MK should serve alcohol. I'm just not a fan of all the ridiculous posts in here basically assuming that anybody who has a drink at any point in their life is an alcoholic who can't control himself and is going to harm children or break apart a family.
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Then I guess neither one of us is wrong. So let's move on!
 

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