News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

BrianLo

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Everything else aside - what show refreshes? The ancient Indy and BnB continue on and Mermaid is coming back.

Fantasmic, Mermaid, Muppetvision-> Monsters, Villains, Frozen and Mickey were also newer. I’m more so referencing the state of DHS coming out of its “redo” that shouldn’t have left the majority of the shows from the 90’s continue on.

I didn’t expect perfection (Indy and B&TB) with the last redo. But I expected several more of the shows to have been touched, which they are finally getting around to. Beauty and the Beast annoys me the most because I feel like Indy is buying time in an expansion pad. Plus it’s sooo easy to just run something else at B&TB (hence Jollywood nights)
 

Disney Analyst

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Tiana could have been much better if they stuck to the source material instead of imagining a life for her that was not suggested in the story... I think we would have preferred a book report ride... Without the tension of a villain, it is basically Small World with a waterfall.

As someone who has defended the change, as I do still believe Tiana is a perfect IP to replace splash with … I agree they mucked it up with the play they designed. They need to focus on how to build a story. This is a long form attraction. They have the space and time to build to something.

I think many aspects look gorgeous, but the story lacks.
 

aladdin2007

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Vahle and D'amaro will not be content until everything that does not have LL has it and replaced with it. Nothing they do anymore makes much sense in terms of placement and they could care less about expanding. How the heck is the studios going to handle the crowds, they cant handle it now with what little they to offer as it is. And another great easy to go to theater attraction bites the dust. Keep making it so complicated guys people are irked as it is.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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He was pretty happy that it closed but went to Japan to visit it anyway.
I think that's a pretty blatant misrepresentation of what happened. He loved the ride, was sad to see it closed, but understood why and didn't get upset over it. He thinks the new version isn't as good but isn't bad either. He wasn't happy it closed.

Why are we talking about a long-gone ride? We should be talking about the Muppets.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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Vahle and D'amaro will not be content until everything that does not have LL has it and replaced with it. Nothing they do anymore makes much sense in terms of placement and they could care less about expanding. How the heck is the studios going to handle the crowds, they cant handle it now with what little they to offer as it is. And another great easy to go to theater attraction bites the dust. Keep making it so complicated guys people are irked as it is.
This. There hasn't been a single decision not motivated by profits in a long, long time. Much like how the end of Eisner's run floundered, Iger is also coming up on the 20 year mark and his last couple of years have been bad. He needs to leave and we need a creative person in charge, but the shareholders will demand another business major and we'll watch the parks all turn into IP lands of the current trend. You won't be able to tell Hollywood Studios from Epcot and California Adventure from Animal Kingdom.
 

Earlie the Pearlie

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Oh, Muppets will close. But the coaster overlay is very questionable.
I don’t think I really agree with this. Rock ‘N’ Roller is a coaster through a big black box with some blacklight cutouts. The major work here will be in the queue, but even that can remain largely similar to how it currently is. This is a very fast roller coaster, I don’t have my hopes up for an elaborate dark ride, and that really wouldn’t make fiscal sense. Some screens, new music, some lasers or other SFX, and maybe a physical Electric Mayhem van or some quick static or limited motion gags would be plenty for the ride itself. I think that if huge budget cuts and economic downturn hit, and I bet they will this overlay will be one of the less likely to be cut things, not one of the more.
 

DavidDL

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... You won't be able to tell Hollywood Studios from Epcot and California Adventure from Animal Kingdom.

I liked the way Parklore's blog explained it: Each of the parks are slowly just turning into "Disney Brand Loyalty Centers". Many of the parks are losing their identities/what made them what they were to begin with. Eventually it's going to hit a point where the terms "Epcot", "Hollywood Studios" or "California Adventure" might as well just become "Disney Product and Experiences Centers 1, 2 and 3".
 

Mr. Sullivan

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Is this a record of bad decisions Disney made in one year?
Honestly to me, this is one of their smarter decisions as of late.

An old ride that has good bones but aging skin gets an update, we get an all new land with an all new ride, the Muppets continue to find a home at Disney World, Hall of President stays as it was (although I don’t think that was ever in question), and they’re going to be preserving the MuppetVision film and other aspects of the attraction. What the latter ends up looking like I don’t know for sure, but it’s not disappearing.

Now don’t get me wrong I love MuppetVision and I’ve said before that I didn’t want it to have to go, however with the news officially out there and with the knowledge that the Muppets get to stay and that the attraction is going to get preserved in someway, I feel OK with it. I feel my sentiments are maybe more specific to the Muppets themselves rather than MuppetVision.
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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I liked the way Parklore's blog explained it: Each of the parks are slowly just turning into "Disney Brand Loyalty Centers". Many of the parks are losing their identities/what made them what they were to begin with. Eventually it's going to hit a point where the terms "Epcot", "Hollywood Studios" or "California Adventure" might as well just become "Disney Product and Experiences Centers 1, 2 and 3".
Yep. Disney is trying to sell Disney to people who have likely already bought in. In the process, it makes the parks just look like a blatant advertisement, and also to anyone who's not a huge Disney fan, it just further hammers in the "Disney adult/brand loyalist" stereotype.

Why would anyone want to go to a Disney Park if it's all the same brands and stories you can see on Disney+ for way less money? Why would anyone travel to a different park other than the closest one to them if they're all the same experience?
 

Mr. Sullivan

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Because when we think of the muppets, we all think aggressive thrill ride
Well, kinda? They’re known for being rather zany, fast paced, and all over the place. Chaos is the Muppet brand. I don’t think this is a completely out of the blue choice, considering that the primary demographic for the Muppets these days is adults rather than children.

Not to say kids can’t like the Muppets or don’t like the Muppets because they do. I just don’t necessarily feel that’s the core audience. There has been content for the Muppets aimed squarely kids, but in the overall I’ve always felt older people enjoyed a little bit more.

A coaster is not a bad fit for that, especially considering this one isn’t in the grand scheme of things all that extreme or aggressive, and that kids as young as five or six can get on it. I was five the first time I ever rode it. That height requirement argument isn’t a sticky as people are making it to be.
 

dennis-in-ct

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Honestly to me, this is one of their smarter decisions as of late.

An old ride that has good bones but aging skin gets an update, we get an all new land with an all new ride, the Muppets continue to find a home at Disney World, Hall of President stays as it was (although I don’t think that was ever in question), and they’re going to be preserving the MuppetVision film and other aspects of the attraction. What the latter ends up looking like I don’t know for sure, but it’s not disappearing.

Now don’t get me wrong I love MuppetVision and I’ve said before that I didn’t want it to have to go, however with the news officially out there and with the knowledge that the Muppets get to stay and that the attraction is going to get preserved in someway, I feel OK with it. I feel my sentiments are maybe more specific to the Muppets themselves rather than MuppetVision.
Add me to the list of loving these announcements.
The Monsters land is super smart (needs only a light touch) and well placed. I can imagine the unique Halloween/Christmas decorations similar to the cars land in DCA. If Zootopia is any indication of the level of detail that will be involved, this area will be super charming.
I am looking forward to a new Monster's show. We love Laugh Floor and never miss it when we are in MK. I would also be very excited if Tomorrowland used the Laugh Floor real estate for another attraction knowing we had another Monsters show at DHS.
The Muppets are silly and fun - so is Rock and Roller Coaster. I can totally see it being great.
 
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Coaster Lover

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In the Parks
No
Well, we were right that the news would come on a Friday (just had which Friday wrong). If I'm looking right, doesn't even look like they posted anything on Facebook...
 

Animaniac93-98

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Why does everything need to be a “land”? So dumb.

Could’ve left Muppet Vision alone and added the Monsters Coaster to that area of the park and kept the same name of Grand Ave/Courtyard or whatever they call it

Our world and Monstropolis cannocially coexist.

You have a door that leads to their world, just like Laugh Floor. No need to throw out everything else in the process.
 

Brer Oswald

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Honestly to me, this is one of their smarter decisions as of late.

An old ride that has good bones but aging skin gets an update, we get an all new land with an all new ride, the Muppets continue to find a home at Disney World, Hall of President stays as it was (although I don’t think that was ever in question), and they’re going to be preserving the MuppetVision film and other aspects of the attraction. What the latter ends up looking like I don’t know for sure, but it’s not disappearing.

Now don’t get me wrong I love MuppetVision and I’ve said before that I didn’t want it to have to go, however with the news officially out there and with the knowledge that the Muppets get to stay and that the attraction is going to get preserved in someway, I feel OK with it. I feel my sentiments are maybe more specific to the Muppets themselves rather than MuppetVision.
Fully agree. People are trying to argue that Monsters Inc is not popular, let alone less popular than the Muppets which...is just a blatant lie 😂 . It sucks to lose Muppetvision, but it's in such a weird spot to begin with. It's positioned in a dead end like an E-ticket would be, but people obviously don't flock to it like that. They also aren't going full erasure campaign like they did with an extremely popular attraction they just replaced, so I'm not so sure I understand the dramatics from Muppet fans. If anything, they should be more upset that the RNRC retheme will be lazy.
 

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