Monorail/Transportation Idea

nsxdrift_89

New Member
Original Poster
I recently posted a thread, wondering if a refurn and extension of the system would be feasible. I have compiled some information, based on my knowledge of the existing system at the resort. Bar in mind, that this new transportation would eventually bring about the end of the bus system. Also it would take a miracle for the WDC to look at this proposal.

The following expansions would be completed in two or three phases.

Phase One: A New Transportation Plaza, New Lines to the existing parks (w/o Monorail service), a system of LIM enclosed transport vehicles (for the resorts)
This phase will consist of a grand Transportation plaza that will link two different transportation types. The Transportation Plaza will be designed in a modern (metal, glass, atriums, spiral escalators) fashion. There will be three new monorail lines at the TP (MGM, DAK, and the TTC {for trans. to the barn}). These lines will all be connected to each other at the TP, usinf the newest most advanaced swutching technology. During this phase all Deluxe Resorts will be connected via a enclosed PM style transport, that is elevated and travels along a LIM track, similar to that seen in Minority Report, except on a much smaller scale. Six new trains will be designed and added for this phase. The trains running on the TTC,Epcot lines will remian in service. The current trains will be able to run on these lines when necessary

Phase Two:A TTC, Resort, Epcot line refurb (including new trains). The Value Resorts and The Corondao Springs resorts are linked via the PM style transport to the TP. Construction will begin on a fourth line to DTD. All trains will be capable of running of each line, creating an ability to use as many trains on as many lines as needed.

Phase Three: The DTD line opens, and a PM style transport opens between all other resorts and the TP. At this point the resort will be fully integrated in the PM sytle transport and monorail (with the boats also). Buses will only be needed when absolutely necessary.



So, your thoughts, comments, opinions.
 

Thrawn

Account Suspended
What happens if a train breaks down at a station and is stuck for an hour? All transport to that place is now down. Can't have that happen. The monorail is not the most feasible solution for WDW's traffic pattern.

Also, what happens in WDW? Early in the day, you have a lot of people going one direction. At closing, a lot of people go the other way. What happens when a monorail fills up? You have to wait for another monorail. What happens when a bus fills up? You can send another bus, or have busses waiting. You can only have a certain number of trains on a line at once, but you can have as many busses as you need.

The monorail won't work for expansion to all over property. It just doesn't.

And then we can start talking about the billions of dollars it would costs. I'd rather get 10 $200 million e-tickets than a $2 billion transport system. A transport system that would make me wait in line to get where I want to go even longer than the current system does.
 

ImagineAtl23

Active Member
One problem, money. . .

I heard from a reliable source that it cost 7 million dollars per mile to build monorail tracks, and even more to maintain it and get new trains and w/e other costs there are....so it is unlikely they will do that, but hey, we can wish....
 

Thrawn

Account Suspended
malcolm347 said:
I heard from a reliable source that it cost 7 million dollars per mile to build monorail tracks, and even more to maintain it and get new trains and w/e other costs there are....so it is unlikely they will do that, but hey, we can wish....

More like double that.
 

righttrack

Well-Known Member
I always appreciate the reliable, fast transportation of a monorail, or any rail system. I think busses will always be a major part of Disney transportation, because they are on-demand versus scheduled. They can quickly route a team of busses anywhere there is a crowd. Otherwise, they would have to project visitor movement and would likely fail, because people move unpredictably between the parks, resorts and events.
 

stopgo

Member
I'm still new here so forgive me if this is a stupid/redundant question but what are the odds of a light rail system ever being deployed? I'm thinking specifically of a system that would connect all of the theme parks and perhaps downtown Disney...
 

Thrawn

Account Suspended
stopgo said:
I'm still new here so forgive me if this is a stupid/redundant question but what are the odds of a light rail system ever being deployed? I'm thinking specifically of a system that would connect all of the theme parks and perhaps downtown Disney...

Its been discussed here ad nauseum. Basically, it runs into the same problems that the monorail does. It just doesn't work for the WDW guest traffic pattern.
 

HunnyPot

Member
I don't think it will ever happen, but I would love it if it did. I love the monorail, it's one of my favorite things about WDW. Also, I would love to be able to ride the monorail from my resort, because we normally stay at a moderate, so we have bus transportation to all the parks. I think it would be fun, but will most likely never happen.
 

CaptainMichael

Well-Known Member
I'm aware that monorails cost a lot of money, but I just don't understand why. The track seems to be pretty basic, concrete and steel. Just don't understand where the multi-millions come in.
 

wannab@dis

Well-Known Member
STR8FAN2005 said:
I'm aware that monorails cost a lot of money, but I just don't understand why. The track seems to be pretty basic, concrete and steel. Just don't understand where the multi-millions come in.

3 points that may help

1. Geological considerations - FL is a swamp.
2. Raised platform - each span is basically a bridge and therefore requires more engineering details
3. Delivery of services (such as power, communications, data, etc) over long distances.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
STR8FAN2005 said:
I'm aware that monorails cost a lot of money, but I just don't understand why. The track seems to be pretty basic, concrete and steel. Just don't understand where the multi-millions come in.
It is not simply concrete and steel. It has to be well engineered to be able to take the stress of the trains running over it.
 

Thrawn

Account Suspended
STR8FAN2005 said:
I'm aware that monorails cost a lot of money, but I just don't understand why. The track seems to be pretty basic, concrete and steel. Just don't understand where the multi-millions come in.

  • Pylons go at least 10 feet deep
  • Concrete
  • Steel
  • Electricity
  • Stress
  • Stations
  • Clearing trees
  • Making the grade of the land suitable to build on
  • Moving roads
  • Going around existing structures and water

Not to mention having to build to safety codes, and the honeycomb concrete construction process that is used.
 

cherrynegra

Well-Known Member
Is the Disney Monorail similar to the one now operating in Las Vegas? I know the one in LV is the Bombadier MVI and it cost them $87 - $88 million a mile of track. And it's only four miles long.
 

Register on WDWMAGIC. This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.

Back
Top Bottom