Monorail is out of service

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seascape

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We left MK at about 7PM last night. Sat on the monorail in the contemporary for what seamed like 20 minutes before going back to the MK station and having to take a bus to the Poly. I wish I knew what the cause was but it was not lightning, there was none in the area at the time. It wasn't too big a deal and only a minor inconvenience.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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JediMasterMatt said:
I wonder if Lee, Steve, and crew have a bunch of pre-canned news stories on file like major new sites have for obituaries for famous people.

If not, may I make a suggest for the following topics with fill-in-the-blanks dates with some boilerplate copy to go along with it:

- Monorail out of order
- MM+/FP+ currently offline
- Price increases
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In the newspaper industry those were called 'Standing Heads'
 
SportsGoofy

SportsGoofy

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monothingie said:
I heard an entire monorail was eaten by a Sharknado.
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I'll just put this right here....
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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Let me start by saying that I have no idea why the Monorail had a problem. Now that this is done I cannot help but marvel at how some jumped immediately to faulting maintenance. And not even with any doubt. It may have been that, I don't know, however, what I do know is that there are possibly 100,000 other reasons for the problem. Many of those problems would not have been altered if they had a maintenance man hanging under the body of the Monorail train during operation doing maintenance. Random condemnations seem to be the thing to do.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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Goofyernmost said:
Let me start by saying that I have no idea why the Monorail had a problem. Now that this is done I cannot help but marvel at how some jumped immediately to faulting maintenance. And not even with any doubt. It may have been that, I don't know, however, what I do know is that there are possibly 100,000 other reasons for the problem. Many of those problems would not have been altered if they had a maintenance man hanging under the body of the Monorail train during operation doing maintenance. Random condemnations seem to be the thing to do.
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Because we KNOW WDW has cut way back on maintenance and they no longer tend to stock LOCAL spares due to a misguided application of so called LEAN theory, So equipment is operated closer to failure margins not that it's unsafe just that it is more likely to go 101 than a properly maintained machine and when it DOES break the parts are not 'on hand'.

So a failure which might of taken a couple of hours to resolve in the 90's now can take days to resolve, And when they DO fix something they fix ONLY what's broken not take the opportunity to overhaul nearby systems which are now accessible due to the dissasembly to repair the orginal fault.

Example one of my trucks is a diesel which has given excellent service needs a glow plug serviced, Considering that much of the repair expense is removing/reinstalling the plumbing for the turbocharger, ALL the glow plugs are being replaced along with all the injector seals, Allows inspection of everything and getting 'in front of' future failures.

I have spares on hand for common failure components for our vehicles and power equipment I may never USE them but I have used them in the past and probably will in the future and it keeps downtime to a minimum.

Penny wise pound foolish is the best way to summarize WDW's current maintenance philosophy.
 
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shernernum

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Goofyernmost said:
Let me start by saying that I have no idea why the Monorail had a problem. Now that this is done I cannot help but marvel at how some jumped immediately to faulting maintenance. And not even with any doubt. It may have been that, I don't know, however, what I do know is that there are possibly 100,000 other reasons for the problem. Many of those problems would not have been altered if they had a maintenance man hanging under the body of the Monorail train during operation doing maintenance. Random condemnations seem to be the thing to do.
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I don't post here much, and when I do I have typically been critical of Disney as well, but the irrational nature of some of the bile that is spewed is getting out of hand. Yes WDW is not what it used to be...and it should be called out for that constantly. However, criticism loses credibility when it becomes the knee-jerk response to everything. In that case it actually becomes counter-productive because those who follow along and may have been on board initially get tired of the hyperbole and no longer pay attention to the critics. This is especially true for those who have gone to WDW, had a good time, and in general enjoyed themselves even with the flaws. They then come here read how awful it is from the same people over and over again. There is a cognitive dissonance between experience and commentary, and instead of constructive criticism that points out where things need to improve the image becomes a few malcontent crackpots who jump on any story and make it into a commentary on the sad state of WDW without allowing for any other possibility.
(Just read the most recent Boathouse thread)

Is WDW infrastructure in need of significant improvement? Yes
Has their maintenance record been great lately? Doesn't seem so
Is their bad show out there (I'm looking at you Pirates and EE)? Absolutely
Is MM+ a boondoggle that was an obscene waste of money? probably
Are there other legitimate issues that could be pointed out? Of course
Is WDW overpriced? sure it is , but it seems that so far someone is still willing to pay

But if every comment is always that the sky is falling, it get pretty old, boring, and hard to take seriously. All I'm saying is that if we want the criticisms to speak, they need to be a little more measured and less one note and predictably sensationsal.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
shernernum said:
I don't post here much, and when I do I have typically been critical of Disney as well, but the irrational nature of some of the bile that is spewed is getting out of hand. Yes WDW is not what it used to be...and it should be called out for that constantly. However, criticism loses credibility when it becomes the knee-jerk response to everything. In that case it actually becomes counter-productive because those who follow along and may have been on board initially get tired of the hyperbole and no longer pay attention to the critics. This is especially true for those who have gone to WDW, had a good time, and in general enjoyed themselves even with the flaws. They then come here read how awful it is from the same people over and over again. There is a cognitive dissonance between experience and commentary, and instead of constructive criticism that points out where things need to improve the image becomes a few malcontent crackpots who jump on any story and make it into a commentary on the sad state of WDW without allowing for any other possibility.
(Just read the most recent Boathouse thread)

Is WDW infrastructure in need of significant improvement? Yes
Has their maintenance record been great lately? Doesn't seem so
Is their bad show out there (I'm looking at you Pirates and EE)? Absolutely
Is MM+ a boondoggle that was an obscene waste of money? probably
Are there other legitimate issues that could be pointed out? Of course
Is WDW overpriced? sure it is , but it seems that so far someone is still willing to pay

But if every comment is always that the sky is falling, it get pretty old, boring, and hard to take seriously. All I'm saying is that if we want the criticisms to speak, they need to be a little more measured and less one note and predictably sensationsal.
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And yet the constant negative commentary from the fan community is what got DL fixed, DL where maintenance was allowed to slide so badly it got people killed.

Most of us here me included would be very happy if WDW were maintained the way it was in the late 90's or early 00's instead of the constantly declining standard we see TODAY.
 

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