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Modern Disney stinks

Okie Mike

Okie Mike

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Maybe (probably) this has been discussed, but I feeling terrible for families and kids today. In my opinion, today’s Disney entertainment is awful. Bad stories and story telling, void of good characters. Specifically, this generation of children are getting none of their own quintessential Disney magic and whimsical stories. What could or should be done to change this? Or, am I wrong and just out of touch?
 
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LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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Disney has produced some wonderful films in recent years that have captivated children and adults alike. Frozen, Moana, and Encanto are brimming with magic and whimsy.

Based on actual audience reactions, I see no reason to feel terrible for today’s children, millions of whom have enjoyed Disney’s recent offerings.
 
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networkpro

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Disney is guilty of taking fables out of their cultural contexts and recasting them into something else entirely. Fables use whimsical human-like characters and fantasy to teach moral lessons. Little things like "mind your parents because they are just looking out for your best interests", "dont accept candy from strangers", and "dont lie". Disney has gone into the deep end and created more irrelevant backstories pandering to groups that contextually add little or no value to the tale. Before the hue and cry goes up about representation, where is the last blind, wheelchair-bound, amputee, or cognitively impaired character that isn't either a plot device or an object of pity?
 
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LittleBuford

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networkpro said:
Disney is guilty of taking fables out of their cultural contexts and recasting them into something else entirely. Fables use whimsical human-like characters and fantasy to teach moral lessons. Little things like "mind your parents because they are just looking out for your best interests", "dont accept candy from strangers", and "dont lie".
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Most of Disney’s animated films since Snow White have starred human characters and taught lessons too complex to be boiled down to a simple aphorism.
 
Ghost93

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I disagree. The only thing that sucks about modern Disney is the lack of great Disney villains. But I actually feel Disney protagonists are more interesting than ever.

I also think Tangled, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Raya and the Last Dragon and Encanto all vary from "Pretty good" to amazing.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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Ghost93 said:
I disagree. The only thing that sucks about modern Disney is the lack of great Disney villains. But I actually feel Disney protagonists are more interesting than ever.

I also think Tangled, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Raya and the Last Dragon and Encanto all vary from "Pretty good" to amazing.
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I really didn’t enjoy Raya and the Last Dragon, but I agree on the rest!
 
Ghost93

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Nah, Encanto, Soul and Turning Red are great.

I do think the live-action remakes are terrible, but I liken those to the direct-to-video sequel trend of the 90s and 2000s — terrible products will ultimately be forgotten in 10 years while the better movies live on to be passed down to the next generation.
 
CaptainAmerica

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Ghost93 said:
Nah, Encanto, Soul and Turning Red are great.

I do think the live-action remakes are terrible, but I liken those to the direct-to-video sequel trend of the 90s and 2000s — terrible products will ultimately be forgotten in 10 years while the better movies live on to be passed down to the next generation.
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Turning Red might be my least favorite movie ever made.

Soul is excellent, but it's not a kids' movie.
 
Vegas Disney Fan

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I don’t think most modern Disney movies will become “Disney classics”, simply because they are mostly sequels. They aren’t bad, they just aren’t good enough / unique enough to become classics.

Most of the likely Disney classics from 2000-2010 will be Pixar movies: Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, Incredibles, Cars, Wall-E, and Up, Princess and the Frog likely being the only Disney movie to reach that status.

2010-2016 saw a ton of potential classics from Disney with Tangled, Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, Zootopia, and Moana but only Brave and Inside Out from Pixar.

Since then it’s been mostly sequels from both studios. 2016-current I think only Coco becomes a classic from Pixar and only Encanto from Disney… maybe Soul and Raya will get there also with some more time.

I think many of the sequels (Frozen 2, Cars sequels, etc) will remain very popular but I don’t think that makes them classics. They will just be seen as a continuation of the original “classic” film.
 
DryerLintFan

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Gravity Falls is incredible

Bluey is maybe the most iconically wonderful show since Mr. Rogers Neighborhood

Star vs. the Forces of Evil is wonderful

Miraculous is wonderful too, although I'll admit we were watching that before it showed up on Disney+ and I'm not entirely certain it started fully Disney

This is on top of the shows previously mentioned. Also most kids are obsessed with the Descendants series, which is cute, and Zombies, which I think could have been really powerful but missed the mark entirely. And they have access to all the old content too although the only ones my kid really latched onto are things like Phineas and Ferb and Home Alone and The Emperor's New Groove.
 
erasure fan1

erasure fan1

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Tony the Tigger said:
I mean, if it were that easy to write a great film, then every film would be great.
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That's true. It isn't easy in the least bit. But sometimes you need a good dinosaur to get to a Coco. Part of the issue could be that the depth of talent isn't there anymore. Creativity and story telling don't seem to be the top priorities for Disney lately.
 
mf1972

mf1972

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for me, the last decent animated movie was probably TS4. not saying everything after that was bad, but they’ve been mediocre & underwhelming at most. it seems they feel ok to give us a so so movie as long as they can sell a ton of merchandise based on said movie. just my opinion.
 
Magenta Panther

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The first season of "Star vs. The Forces of Evil" was outstanding. Then Disney farmed the animation to another (cheaper, no doubt) animation studio and someone in the company decided that Star was too ditzy and had to become a WARRIOR PRINCESS and the show of course went downhill.

I liked "Amphibia" pretty much all the way through. Some bad eps, of course, all series have those.

As for Disney movies, the various hacks behind them seem to base storylines and especially casting by how many PC boxes they check off. That has done nothing but weaken their appeal. The last Disney animated movie I became interested in and watched was "Zootopia", which was excellent. Disney should make more films starring talking animals and less movies featuring quota-inspired rubber-doll-looking humans. And of course, the live-action remakes have become obnoxiously absurd by this point. "The Jungle Book" was a happy exception, but even it wasn't needed.

Thankfully, the Star Wars butchery has seemed to have subsided. Too much damage has been done. RIP.

Marvel is still going strong, but it'll reach the saturation point eventually. Then what?

Disney does stink right now, in just about every way imaginable. A major purge in the company from the top on down is needed. Especially those employees with agendas. Then maybe things will improve. But I'm not hopeful. But anything can happen, I guess, as Tiana once said...
 
DryerLintFan

DryerLintFan

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Magenta Panther said:
The first season of "Star vs. The Forces of Evil" was outstanding. Then Disney farmed the animation to another (cheaper, no doubt) animation studio and someone in the company decided that Star was too ditzy and had to become a WARRIOR PRINCESS and the show of course went downhill.

I liked "Amphibia" pretty much all the way through. Some bad eps, of course, all series have those.

As for Disney movies, the various hacks behind them seem to base storylines and especially casting by how many PC boxes they check off. That has done nothing but weaken their appeal. The last Disney animated movie I became interested in and watched was "Zootopia", which was excellent. Disney should make more films starring talking animals and less movies featuring quota-inspired rubber-doll-looking humans. And of course, the live-action remakes have become obnoxiously absurd by this point. "The Jungle Book" was a happy exception, but even it wasn't needed.

Thankfully, the Star Wars butchery has seemed to have subsided. Too much damage has been done. RIP.

Marvel is still going strong, but it'll reach the saturation point eventually. Then what?

Disney does stink right now, in just about every way imaginable. A major purge in the company from the top on down is needed. Especially those employees with agendas. Then maybe things will improve. But I'm not hopeful. But anything can happen, I guess, as Tiana once said...
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We haven't tried Amphibia yet. Trying to get my kid into Dr. Who instead 😂
 

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