MLB 2025 Discussion Thread (Current Champions: Los Angeles Dodgers)

MattC

MattC

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Dead2009 said:
Imagine being this stupid
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Cleveland’s Baseball Team Will Drop Its Indians Team Name (Published 2020)

The decision comes amid a wider push for sports teams to stop using Native American names and imagery as team names and mascots.
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Yeah, really is something to see isn't it?

My Braves are going to get sucked into this too. I have been preparing myself ever since that Cardinals pitcher decided to voice his opinion during the 2019 post-season. Common sense and reason mean nothing anymore. A loud minority who find offense in everything is shouting above everyone else.
 
SteveBrickNJ

SteveBrickNJ

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MattC said:
Yeah, really is something to see isn't it?

My Braves are going to get sucked into this too. I have been preparing myself ever since that Cardinals pitcher decided to voice his opinion during the 2019 post-season. Common sense and reason mean nothing anymore. A loud minority who find offense in everything is shouting above everyone else.
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I personally don't think the Braves should be sucked into this. Cleveland Indians..yes....Atlanta Braves (not the same situation)

Our continent's Native Americans were referred to as "Indians" in my childhood. Since they have no link whatsoever to India, that should have been corrected sooner rather then later.
The name "Braves" on the other hand COULD be viewed by Native Americans in a positive light. I wonder how the majority of them feel?
Here in NJ we don't really have any Native American COMMUNITY ( at least that I am aware of)
Yet consider this: our military are always being referred to as "Brave".
Fire fighters are "Brave".
I think "Brave" is a positive attribute so why not "Braves" as well?
Thoughts on this everyone?
 
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LSLS

LSLS

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Not to start a total war, but I find it funny how invested people are in the nickname of a team. It's not like they are moving from town, they are just changing their nickname. Is it a minority offended by the name? Absolutely. But honestly, does changing the name really hurt you that much? Heck, in this case, it's not even like this was the franchises original name.
 
PopCentury

PopCentury

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SteveBrickNJ said:
I personally don't think the Braves should be sucked into this. Cleveland Indians..yes....Atlanta Braves (not the same situation)

Our continent's Native Americans were referred to as "Indians" in my childhood. Since they have no link whatsoever to India, that should have been corrected sooner rather then later.
The name "Braves" on the other hand COULD be viewed by Native Americans in a positive light. I wonder how the majority of them feel?
Here in NJ we don't really have any Native American COMMUNITY ( at least that I am aware of)
Yet consider this: our military are always being referred to as "Brave".
Fire fighters are "Brave".
I think "Brave" is a positive attribute so why not "Braves" as well?
Thoughts on this everyone?
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I think the Braves will be ok. It doesn’t sound offensive to me. If anything, I think the tomahawk chant should go away.

I don’t see any other team changing their names but we’ll see. The two professional teams that changed their names were obviously offensive
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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PopCentury said:
I think the Braves will be ok. It doesn’t sound offensive to me. If anything, I think the tomahawk chant should go away.

I don’t see any other team changing their names but we’ll see. The two professional teams that changed their names were obviously offensive
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Braves are done too...
Even the ones with “letters of support” like the blackhawks are going to go. It’s a matter of time.

Chiefs too
 
MattC

MattC

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Braves are done too...
Even the ones with “letters of support” like the blackhawks are going to go. It’s a matter of time.

Chiefs too
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Yeah.
I appreciate what you guys are saying. I agree. I think the chant should stay too. But these are not reasonable times we live in. “Cancel culture” is swinging for the fences :)
 
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Lilofan

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PopCentury said:
I think the Braves will be ok. It doesn’t sound offensive to me. If anything, I think the tomahawk chant should go away.

I don’t see any other team changing their names but we’ll see. The two professional teams that changed their names were obviously offensive
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The ATL Braves tomahawk emblem can be offensive to some but yes to more are critical of the Tomahawk chop the fans in the stands use that stands out. It is the sign of the times. A school that I knew some attended changed their Redskins name to Red Hawks.
 
MattC

MattC

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Braves are done too...
Even the ones with “letters of support” like the blackhawks are going to go. It’s a matter of time.

Chiefs too
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Everything I’m reading now names the Braves, Blackhawks and Chiefs. Some pretty inflammatory things being written. Insulting things.

Part of me says just go ahead and change the Braves name. Get it over with so that I don’t have to read about it every time the team is mentioned. I just want to be able to watch baseball drama free.
 
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Lilofan

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MattC said:
Everything I’m reading now names the Braves, Blackhawks and Chiefs. Some pretty inflammatory things being written. Insulting things.

Part of me says just go ahead and change the Braves name. Get it over with so that I don’t have to read about it every time the team is mentioned. I just want to be able to watch baseball drama free.
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There will always be drama in baseball. Every team cheats to win.
 
Buck Wheelie

Buck Wheelie

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When people mention Tommy Lasorda I always remember when he was asked about Kurt Bavaqua. That is a classic especially when he said "The guy couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat." The whole thing is on youtube and i don't think I could provide a link here since this is a family site. Lasorda goes into a tirade of profanities.
 
Buck Wheelie

Buck Wheelie

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MLB HOF vote today and nobody got enough votes to get in. That's too bad because three of them deserve the honor.

www.mlb.com

No new Hall electees in rare outcome

For the first time since 1960 -- and just the seventh time since the first election in 1936 -- the National Baseball Hall of Fame will not have a new group of electees in 2021. Yet because the Class of 2020’s induction was pushed back a year by the coronavirus
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