Mission: Space thoughts

[imagineer boy]

I have a hypothisis on how mission: space might work. I realized that if you spin the cars around like a merry go round ( for the blast off scensation ) you would feel G forces, but you would also be thrown to the side of the simulator pods. That would make it unrealistic. I have a theory that they don't spin around like a merry-go-round, but like a ferris wheel. They will be in a position so that the bottom of the pods are facing out. The centerfuge would spin on the ferris wheel with magnetic propulsion so that it can spin immediately with out the guests realizing that they're upside down. The sentrifical forces would pull them into their seat.

For weigtlessness, the pods would move in a position that is facing the inside of the ferris wheel. ( It's hard to explain in words ) The ferris wheel would spin really fast once again so that the centrifical forces would pull the people out of their seat. They'll have no idea what's going on outside of their pods, so they'll think that they're weigtless.

This is just my theory, but it's possible. What do you think?

 

[bhg469]

Originally posted by objr
:lol: :lol: I doubt that this ride will cause people to vomit...remember this is a Disney ride, so I doubt that it will cuase people to lose their lunch. Ofcoarse some people may vomit (the real sensitive to motion types), and in that case they have time to clean. (But I haven't seen a ride at Disney that makes most people vomit, the closest one that I've seen where some people may get sick is ToT (they must get motion sickness...cause I don't see how you can get dizzy from falling and rising and falling again....lol). But hey M:S is a centrifuge, and well you never know people could get sick. By the looks of that video, people were not getting ready to vomit they were having FUN! Either way I'm getting on this thing and if people do hurl then I'll make sure to "watch my step" as I exit the vehicle. :hammer:

if the screens are a fraction of a second off from the actual motion of the ride you will have people ralphing left and right

woo hoo

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by imagineer boy
I have a hypothisis on how mission: space might work. I realized that if you spin the cars around like a merry go round ( for the blast off scensation ) you would feel G forces, but you would also be thrown to the side of the simulator pods. That would make it unrealistic. I have a theory that they don't spin around like a merry-go-round, but like a ferris wheel. They will be in a position so that the bottom of the pods are facing out. The centerfuge would spin on the ferris wheel with magnetic propulsion so that it can spin immediately with out the guests realizing that they're upside down. The sentrifical forces would pull them into their seat.

For weigtlessness, the pods would move in a position that is facing the inside of the ferris wheel. ( It's hard to explain in words ) The ferris wheel would spin really fast once again so that the centrifical forces would pull the people out of their seat. They'll have no idea what's going on outside of their pods, so they'll think that they're weigtless.

This is just my theory, but it's possible. What do you think?

In case you take any future physics courses, the forces are "centrifugal" (like centrifuge) and "centripetal"...I'll recheck this post later to see if it makes sense...kinda on the run right now.

 

[bhg469]

Originally posted by imagineer boy
I have a hypothisis on how mission: space might work.

This is just my theory, but it's possible. What do you think?

i think your totally right about the lift off part. the capsules look like they are set up to do just that. im still wondering how the weightlessness thing is gonna work though. guess well just have to ride it!

 

[bhg469]

Originally posted by bhg469
if the screens are a fraction of a second off from the actual motion of the ride you will have people ralphing left and right

woo hoo

as far as comparing it to Rockin roller coaster or body wars? disney never made a cenrifuge ride, as far as i know no theme park has. it will be something new, who else could pull it off ?

 

[wdwmagic]

Originally posted by DogsRule!
If you can handle Rock 'n' Roller Coaster and Body Wars...you'll be fine. (I say Body Wars b/c that is slightly more intense than Star Tours...)

I wouldnt go as far as to say that! From people who have ridden this, I have been told it is BY FAR the most intense attraction at WDW, considerably more so than RnR or any simulator.

 

[dxwwf3]

Originally posted by wdwmagic
I wouldnt go as far as to say that! From people who have ridden this, I have been told it is BY FAR the most intense attraction at WDW, considerably more so than RnR or any simulator.

Finally some good news about Mission Space!!! :lol:

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by wdwmagic
I wouldnt go as far as to say that! From people who have ridden this, I have been told it is BY FAR the most intense attraction at WDW, considerably more so than RnR or any simulator.

Well, I just figured Space pulls 2.5 Gs, while RnR pulls upwards of 5--but I guess the fact that the G forces are sustained here would make this more intense...could you imagine if they went all out on this ride, and made it REALLY feel like blast off...with 4-5 Gs sustained...THEN, people would be puking...

 

[wdwmagic]

Originally posted by DogsRule!
Well, I just figured Space pulls 2.5 Gs, while RnR pulls upwards of 5--but I guess the fact that the G forces are sustained here would make this more intense...could you imagine if they went all out on this ride, and made it REALLY feel like blast off...with 4-5 Gs sustained...THEN, people would be puking...

Exactly, RnR and every other coaster is a few G for 2 or 3 seconds, if that. Space is sustained G for 30 seconds and upwards.

 

[bhg469]

Originally posted by wdwmagic
Exactly, RnR and every other coaster is a few G for 2 or 3 seconds, if that. Space is sustained G for 30 seconds and upwards.

combine the sustained g's and the simulated gravity. the video displays had better be right on or like i said its gonna be disney's own vomit comet.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by imagineer boy
I have a hypothisis on how mission: space might work. I realized that if you spin the cars around like a merry go round ( for the blast off scensation ) you would feel G forces, but you would also be thrown to the side of the simulator pods. That would make it unrealistic. I have a theory that they don't spin around like a merry-go-round, but like a ferris wheel. They will be in a position so that the bottom of the pods are facing out. The centerfuge would spin on the ferris wheel with magnetic propulsion so that it can spin immediately with out the guests realizing that they're upside down. The sentrifical forces would pull them into their seat.

For weigtlessness, the pods would move in a position that is facing the inside of the ferris wheel. ( It's hard to explain in words ) The ferris wheel would spin really fast once again so that the centrifical forces would pull the people out of their seat. They'll have no idea what's going on outside of their pods, so they'll think that they're weigtless.

This is just my theory, but it's possible. What do you think?

Here is how they do it. You are right that the cars are set up kinda like on a ferris wheel. Basically, the pods are oriented such that guests face outward. During blast-off, guests will lie directly on their back as the centrifuge accelerates, generating positive G-Forces pushing guests down (which is how you would feel during blast off). Zero-Gravity does not mean "fly out of your seat". You fly out of your seat on the Tower of Terror because you are being PULLED down, FASTER than the speed of gravity--we call those negative G-Forces. Zero G means you stay where you are, but feel no pressure pushing you down in your seat--it's a VERY different feel that is what really will make guests smile on this ride b/c none of us, most likely, have ever experienced it for an extended period of time. It is done by simply making the acceleration of the centrifuge 0. We know that a Force is defined as one's mass times their acceleration--if there is no acceleration, mass is negligible, there is no force--you feel weightless.

 

[Mr D]

I can just imagine the cast members ogling all the photos of the woman that are wearing for lack of a better description, no upper body support?:lol:
Definately an uplifting experiance!

 

[tim911]

I don't claim to be an expert, but there are two things I do not agree with in previous posts. First, it will be nearly impossible for the video to not match up exactly with the motion at all times and possibly making people sick. There is currently technology that can match up digital video with a motion simulator at a rate of 30 times per second, and if either is off even by 1/30th of a second, they will be put back in sync by a ride controller. You can reference some of this information at www.alcornmcbride.com. And as far as how the pods are orientated, if you go to www.therideworks.com, click on gallery, and go to the bottom middle picture, you can see that the pods are very similar to the ones that are shown in the mission space section of this website. Riders will enter from the side and will be seated facing the center of the centrifuge. As the simulator starts spinning, riders will feel positive G's as they are forced back into there seats. I realize that most people are familiar with NASA's shuttles currently launching with its astronauts lying on there backs, but remember this ride takes place in the future on a different form of spacecraft that may launch from a runway.
Again, I am not saying I am 100% correct, but feel free to reference the links I have provide to make your own conclusions.

 

[AndyMagic]

Originally posted by tim911
I realize that most people are familiar with NASA's shuttles currently launching with its astronauts lying on there backs, but remember this ride takes place in the future on a different form of spacecraft that may launch from a runway.
Again, I am not saying I am 100% correct, but feel free to reference the links I have provide to make your own conclusions.

I have been thinkiing this for a while now. If we were in fact launched lying down, that would certainly make a BORING ride film. It would just be clouds and more clouds. If we are launched like a plane, that would make everything a lot more interesting.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Every piece of information I have heard about this ride suggests riders are on their backs for the duration of the flight...as for clouds...lift off is roughly 20 seconds in this rides...and there are no clouds in space...the view will be fine.

 

[wdwmagic]

Originally posted by DogsRule!
Here is how they do it. You are right that the cars are set up kinda like on a ferris wheel. Basically, the pods are oriented such that guests face outward.

The capsules are facing inwards towards the centre of the centrifuge.

 

[wdwmagic]

Originally posted by DogsRule!
Every piece of information I have heard about this ride suggests riders are on their backs for the duration of the flight...as for clouds...lift off is roughly 20 seconds in this rides...and there are no clouds in space...the view will be fine.

The capsules move around a lot, so you could be on your back for lift off, but at other times you will be at different positions.

 

[Centrifugeer]

Some of the specifications for Mission: Space that were released by, iirc, ETC contained the specs for the maximum pitch and roll attiudes of the capsules. There is not enough of either to allow riders to be flat on their backs.

 

[Florida Man]

Originally posted by pyschotropic
I am curious as to how they will load passengers into each of the ride capsules? I would also like to eventually see how the centrifuge works!

I bet it will be something like Dr. Doom's Fear Fall at Universal --- how all the doors open up to a circular room.

Just a thought.