Minor Stitch update

[dxwwf3]

Originally posted by Stitchfan712
dxwwf, all I can say is that, if you never go on the ride, then you can never truly criticise it. You can say how much you lament AE being gone, but unless you actually go on Stitch you can't really say with authority whether the ride is good or bad.

All I can say is I honestly do not care if SGE is good or bad. That has no effect on me whatsoever. I usually do not take the time to ride Peter Pan's Flight on any of my trips and I'm not asking for it's removal. This is the same thing. I am not going to see SGE because I simply choose not to. I DID say however that I will watch videos of the show online but that's as far as I want to go. I didn't criticize anyone for not seeing AE because they thought they wouldn't like it, or criticize someone that won't ride Mission Space because they think they will get sick. (Yes I have said that before). That's their choice.

You are making way too big a deal out of it :lol: . I'm sort of over my bitterness towards Stitch (No doubt I couldn't stand to see his picture about 6 months ago). But it's sort of like don't shoot the messenger and that's fine now. I sort of put that to rest when I got my picture taken in Merchant of Venus last week in front of the XS Tech sign (That is still there!) choking a Stitch doll :lol: :lol: :lol:. I got that out of my system and now I'm fine with him

 

[dxwwf3]

Originally posted by 626
AE is closed! Who knows? It may have closed even if they didn't need a spot to put Stitch. Don't hold the location of SGE against the ride itself.

And don't go telling people that it's no good and will never be better than AE because unless you go on it yourself then you obviously won't ever be able to judge!

1) Yes you are right here. I shouldn't hold the attraction site against it, but oh well. Maybe if the attraction was going to look totally different I wouldn't care. But that is not the case. It's just a personal choice.

2) I have not and will not say that SGE is no good. I have said in the past that I think it will not be good, but that was back during the shock of the closure to begin with. I'm sure SGE will be a nice little attraction and it might be the most popular thing in WDW. Who knows? I certainly won't know and it doesn't bother me.

I DO know, however, that there is no way I can like it better than AE. You know for a fact that you will like it better because you are a Stitch fan and there's nothing wrong with that.

I didn't want to mention this because it is going to sound like sour grapes (which it 100% is not), but I was never a big fan of the Lilo and Stitch film. It was probably my least favorite Disney animated film. And I thought that when I saw it in the theater so nobody can say anything bad about that :lol:. So how can I like an attraction based on a film with characters I do not like better than an attraction with a storyline that I loved? It's impossible. BUT THAT IS JUST ME!!!!!!!!!! Like I said earlier, I'm over the "serious" Stitch dissing (I might get some little jabs in there but nothing big :animwink: ).

Go ahead and enjoy your new attraction and enjoy it for many years to come. That's what it's going in there for. (BTW I'm not being sarcastic or bitter).

 

[HennieBogan1966]

If I might interject a few sane thoughts to this subject:

(1) How many years has Disney been developing and building attractions for their guests? Somehow, I think everything will work out fine with respect to the completion of this attraction. Are there bumps in the road? Of course. When's the last time your life went as planned for a solid year, day in and day out?

Anyone? Anyone? That's what I thought!!!

(2) For those of you out there, and you know who you are, who say you can't bring yourself to frequent this attraction anymore if it reminds you at all of AE, I have 2 words for you. GET HELP!!!!
You have some serious issues if a theme park attraction has such an influence on your life. IT'S A THEME PARK ATTRACTION!!!

(3) Will it be as good as AE was to so many of you out there? Probably not. You've already determined in your minds that you won't like it, because it isn't AE. Did we like AE? Yes, it was enjoyable. But life goes on, and change is indeed a part of life. And we enjoyed Lilo And Stitch, and are hoping that this ride will be fun to go on. In the end, it's part of a larger pie, (WDW), which offers so many things for all age groups.

I say quit worrying so much about something over which you have no control. Go into this as well as the rest of your lives, with an open mind. Give it a chance before you write it off as, only for the 10 and under crowd.

 

[dxwwf3]

Originally posted by HennieBogan1966
If I might interject a few sane thoughts to this subject:

(2) For those of you out there, and you know who you are, who say you can't bring yourself to frequent this attraction anymore if it reminds you at all of AE, I have 2 words for you. GET HELP!!!!
You have some serious issues if a theme park attraction has such an influence on your life. IT'S A THEME PARK ATTRACTION!!!

(3) Will it be as good as AE was to so many of you out there? Probably not. You've already determined in your minds that you won't like it, because it isn't AE. Did we like AE? Yes, it was enjoyable. But life goes on, and change is indeed a part of life. And we enjoyed Lilo And Stitch, and are hoping that this ride will be fun to go on. In the end, it's part of a larger pie, (WDW), which offers so many things for all age groups.

I say quit worrying so much about something over which you have no control. Go into this as well as the rest of your lives, with an open mind. Give it a chance before you write it off as, only for the 10 and under crowd.

Thanks for the sanity. Next time feel free to use my name when talking about me.

And yes it was just a theme park attraction. And college football is just a game in Tennessee and soccer is just a game in England. Vacations are just trips and Walt Disney World is just a place. And for an example that might fit to you, golf is also just a game. It's not important.

But some things mean more to some people than others. I know that if Tennessee loses a football game, it bothers me all week. And yes things at Disney World mean alot to me too. But oh yeah I'm a moron so I guess that fits.

And I'm not really the one worrying about it. I was just replying back to two people that disagreed with me in a nice way without personal insults.

 

[Fievel]

As long as we're expressing opinions here.....

I think AE was lame. It wasn't scary - it wasn't "cool". It tried to be both and was neither. The only part I liked was trying to see through the dark as the AA special effects were done.

To me, if they're going to make a ride that ends up being funny instead of scary, they might as well make it funny to begin with.

I believe Stitch will accomplish that.


I also think it's very hypocritical to totally disown and knock down a ride before the construction is even completed. I can understand the fact that you will miss the old ride. I miss some old parts of WDW too, but that doesn't stop me from at least giving the new ride the benefit of the doubt. You've already decided that the new ride can never be as good as the old, even though it has more to do with Disney and a "family park" than AE ever did. I personally think that this ride will do better than AE EVER did with surveys and such by Disney Research. Kids will actually enjoy this, whereas the old ride just scared them.

Remember - theme parks don't have to scare you to be fun. If they can bring forth a laugh or happiness, then I say "mission accomplished" to the SGE concept and project.

Until you actually give the ride a fair shake, I think it's wrong to chastise anything about it.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by Fievel
As long as we're expressing opinions here.....

I think AE was lame. It wasn't scary - it wasn't "cool". It tried to be both and was neither. The only part I liked was trying to see through the dark as the AA special effects were done.

To me, if they're going to make a ride that ends up being funny instead of scary, they might as well make it funny to begin with.

I believe Stitch will accomplish that.


I also think it's very hypocritical to totally disown and knock down a ride before the construction is even completed. I can understand the fact that you will miss the old ride. I miss some old parts of WDW too, but that doesn't stop me from at least giving the new ride the benefit of the doubt. You've already decided that the new ride can never be as good as the old, even though it has more to do with Disney and a "family park" than AE ever did. I personally think that this ride will do better than AE EVER did with surveys and such by Disney Research. Kids will actually enjoy this, whereas the old ride just scared them.

Remember - theme parks don't have to scare you to be fun. If they can bring forth a laugh or happiness, then I say "mission accomplished" to the SGE concept and project.

Until you actually give the ride a fair shake, I think it's wrong to chastise anything about it.

I agree. I loathed Alien Encounter. It did absolutely nothing for me. People said Mission: SPACE would be a joke that no one would ride when they heard that Horizons was to be replaced by it, and 99% of those people stopped their incessant complaining when Mission: SPACE actually opened. It's one of those annoying patterns we all have to live with, I guess.

 

[WDWhumanmap]

hopefully i will clear the air with some insites.
SGE is going to be a carbon copy to AEC that is why i do not know what is taking them so long and that goes for everyone who works at disney. i don't get what the big deal is anyways they removed the man eating alien and put in stitch. also in response to this being overrated i think most every new thing at disney is overrated and i belive people who spend all there time complaining about how fake AEC was are the same people that are saying no to stitch and bring back AEC when everyone knows they will enjoy it in the end and who couldn't love stitch. also i will admit that everyone gets said but you can not compare Alien encounter vs. stitch to horizons vs. Mission:Space there is no comparision alien encounter was only open since fall of 95 unlike horizons which touch the heart of all disney people with the phrase if we can dream it then we really can do it and also it was there since epcot opened its not the same so its an unwize comparison.
i think i said my peice the american idol scatgirl is out.

 

[626]

Huh?

I loved Legend Of The Lion King. It was great! I was sooo sad when they took it out of WDW for some "musical adventure featuring Mickey and Donald in timeless Disney classics." That replacement turned into Philharmagic, which is one of the best things in the Magic Kingdom. Now if you had asked me before seeing Philharmagic if there was any way I'd like it better than Lion KIng, I would have said there was no way. I loved Lion King. But you know what? I gave Philharmagic a chance and it won me over. Even though if you look around you can still see the general layout of the previous attraction it doesn't detract from the experience of Philharmagic at all. I feel bad that people out there lost their favorite ride. I really do. But I would feel worse if they choose to deny themselves the possibility in a new attraction being even better by never experiencing it for themselves. If I had been bitter and never given Philharmagic a chance then I would have really missed out on something special.

 

[dxwwf3]

Originally posted by Fievel
As long as we're expressing opinions here.....

I think AE was lame. It wasn't scary - it wasn't "cool". It tried to be both and was neither. The only part I liked was trying to see through the dark as the AA special effects were done.

To me, if they're going to make a ride that ends up being funny instead of scary, they might as well make it funny to begin with.

I believe Stitch will accomplish that.


I also think it's very hypocritical to totally disown and knock down a ride before the construction is even completed. I can understand the fact that you will miss the old ride. I miss some old parts of WDW too, but that doesn't stop me from at least giving the new ride the benefit of the doubt. You've already decided that the new ride can never be as good as the old, even though it has more to do with Disney and a "family park" than AE ever did. I personally think that this ride will do better than AE EVER did with surveys and such by Disney Research. Kids will actually enjoy this, whereas the old ride just scared them.

Remember - theme parks don't have to scare you to be fun. If they can bring forth a laugh or happiness, then I say "mission accomplished" to the SGE concept and project.

Until you actually give the ride a fair shake, I think it's wrong to chastise anything about it.

First off thank you for trying to be nice and trying to fully prove your point without resorting to saying someone needs help.

I'll just respond to a few quotes that I think will make you understand my point of view better.

"I also think it's very hypocritical to totally disown and knock down a ride before the construction is even completed." - I'm not really dissing SGE anymore. Sure a few months ago when AE closed I was, but you have to understand that is pretty normal. Now I see that SGE will be a great addition to the MK and will be a very popular attraction. And it also looks like WDI is getting some money to work with also. I still wish they could have put it somewhere else, but oh well.

"You've already decided that the new ride can never be as good as the old, even though it has more to do with Disney and a "family park" than AE ever did." - I'm not saying that SGE can't be as good of an attraction overall, I'm just saying that it won't be as good to ME. And the main reason for that is I do not like the characters from Lilo and Stitch. I didn't care too much for the movie and that is why I do not think I will enjoy the new attraction. Now if this was a Treasure Planet makeover I would be looking forward to seeing the new attraction (even though I would have been against it at first), but I frankly just don't care for Stitch and that is the biggest reason. SGE will be a more popular attraction and it will last longer than AE.

One of the biggest reasons I don't want to see SGE is because I just don't see myself enjoying it. I would much rather skip it and see something else instead of seeing SGE then not enjoying it. Now if I see the video online and I think it's worth seeing, I might go in (But that is unlikely since I don't really like Stitch). Yeah I might be missing out on something great, but I will never complain that SGE is there and I will never say that it is time for a change later on.

And you also have to look at my point of view on this part too. People on here know that I am a HUGE AE fan. So if I see SGE and I do not like it, people are just going to say that it is just sour grapes and they will not take my opinion seriously. So really it's a no win situation for me. And I guess there is also a part of me that thinks, because SGE and AE will be so similar, that over time I will forget about AE and all I'll remember is how the effects are presented in SGE. So basically there is a part of me that doesn't want SGE to taint my image of AE (either good or bad). Sure that may be silly but I guess that's my choice.

So let me set the record straight. I have nothing against SGE (anymore) and I hope that other people really enjoy it and it lasts a very long time. I seriously hope there are some nice AE references in there and I hope that kids do not get scared and that the adults do not get bored. It is just my personal choice to not see it in person right now. Maybe 10 years or so down the road I might feel differently, I don't know. Right now I would not be able to give the attraction a fair chance so it's not worth it. Yes I am putting way too much into this, but like I said in a previous post this topic does mean alot to me. So back off! :lol:

 

[Stitchfan712]

Originally posted by WDWhumanmap
hopefully i will clear the air with some insites.
SGE is going to be a carbon copy to AEC that is why i do not know what is taking them so long and that goes for everyone who works at disney. i don't get what the big deal is anyways they removed the man eating alien and put in stitch. also in response to this being overrated i think most every new thing at disney is overrated and i belive people who spend all there time complaining about how fake AEC was are the same people that are saying no to stitch and bring back AEC when everyone knows they will enjoy it in the end and who couldn't love stitch. also i will admit that everyone gets said but you can not compare Alien encounter vs. stitch to horizons vs. Mission:Space there is no comparision alien encounter was only open since fall of 95 unlike horizons which touch the heart of all disney people with the phrase if we can dream it then we really can do it and also it was there since epcot opened its not the same so its an unwize comparison.
i think i said my peice the american idol scatgirl is out.

With all due respect....you kinda need to use punctuation. That was very hard to read.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by Stitchfan712
With all due respect....you kinda need to use punctuation. That was very hard to read.

yeah...it didn't "clear the air" for me at all...

 

[Mr Disney]

Originally posted by bhg469
he he the ride will have lasers.....and they will havea a target audience

LOL! I just wanted to say that I tried to go on AE when I was younger (10-12) and I would always get to the preshow and then freak out and have to leave. Don't know why... Anyways, I honestly think that this whole transition from AE to SGE is taken WAY to seriously. I agree with a lot of people on this thread who say that it's just a theme park attraction and that we don't know how it's going to be until it opens. I also think that it's Disney... I mean they have always surprised us with new technology and something new to marvel at. I think that SGE will be something new that we can marvel at. Personally, I love Stitch. 'nuff said.

Nani talked about Eisner one day on Lilo & Stitch the Series:
*sigh* "Another day... another job... waiting to be lost..."

Thanks for reading guys!

 

[StevenT]

Originally posted by ISTCNavigator57
yeah...it didn't "clear the air" for me at all...

On the contrary it kind of fogged up my brain and made me glad I know how to properly write the English language.

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

stitch

i was told by a cast member that booked my resort said he went to the parks the other day and you could hear them doin tests on stitch and you can hear him. someone probably said it but i just heard about and wanted to spread the news.

 

[ButtClown44]

The Stitch "testing" that you can hear outside the attraction is actually just some jibberish in the voice of Stitch. Supposedly as we get closer and closer to the opening day he will begin to speak more and more clearly and by grand opening he will speak english. Doesn't make much sense seeing as how he didn't learn english till he came to earth and the attraction is going to take place before all that, but o well.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Originally posted by ButtClown44
The Stitch "testing" that you can hear outside the attraction is actually just some jibberish in the voice of Stitch. Supposedly as we get closer and closer to the opening day he will begin to speak more and more clearly and by grand opening he will speak english. Doesn't make much sense seeing as how he didn't learn english till he came to earth and the attraction is going to take place before all that, but o well.

That sounds...odd...innovative, but odd. I prefer the Stitch gibberish myself...it's funny

 

[Mr Disney]

That sounds...odd...innovative, but odd. I prefer the Stitch gibberish myself...it's funny

I like how in the TV show Stitch mixes gibberish and English... yeah just thought I'd say that...

 

[awallaceunc]

The Stitch "testing" that you can hear outside the attraction is actually just some jibberish in the voice of Stitch. Supposedly as we get closer and closer to the opening day he will begin to speak more and more clearly and by grand opening he will speak english. Doesn't make much sense seeing as how he didn't learn english till he came to earth and the attraction is going to take place before all that, but o well.

Yeah, that'll really bug me, but I'll do my best to suspend that thought.

-Aaron

 

[TnkrBelPixiDust]

Thanks for the update on SGE! I think that AE was a bit intense for kid's and that SGE will be more kid friendly. I'm not saying that SGE will be better that AE in any way. People like different things! I'm just going to leave it at that...

 

[ButtClown44]

I took yet another peek in the main chamber today. The cannons that are going on top are close to completion. They look great, real nice and round/cartoon-y just like the movie. Also, I saw a report that the tube from alien is gone and now they have a platform. I don't think this is entirely true. I did see the platform in the other chamber, but the one I saw def had a tub in it still. I am assuming that maybe after he escapes the tube is used to seal him in. Also, I saw the Animatronic without the skin. Looked really scary and really cool. It was bigger than I thought.