Mickey's Toontown Expansion (Open Brainstorming)

[mharrington]

Mickey's Toontown at Disneyland is not really what it seems much anymore, yet I love the area, if only for the hands-on exhibits and, of course, the Roger Rabbit ride. The land needs a great refurb and expanded. More importantly, some of the things I want to do with the area is remove any problematic attractions that have been neutered by alleged safety issues, including Donald's Boat and Goofy's Playhouse, both of which will get the boot and new homes for these characters will serve as the queues for newer and more worthwhile attractions in Toontown. More on that later...

 

[JEANYLASER]

good point! I wish Goofy Motor Mania will be in Mickey's toontown Fair in WDW Magic Kingdom!

 

[mharrington]

good point! I wish Goofy Motor Mania will be in Mickey's toontown Fair in WDW Magic Kingdom!

No, this is not about WDW's MK's Toontown, which is probably going to be bulldozed by the expansion of Fantasyland coming up. This is about Disneyland's Toontown.

Anyway, I seem to have forgotten about this, but I won't anymore. I think I will start at one area of the land and work over to the other area (maybe right to left).

 

[JEANYLASER]

OH! I understand very well! Sorry!!!!!

 

[MANEATINGWREATH]

Yes Mickey's Toontown Fair is going to be demolished for the new Fantasyland. It will be replaced by the whole Dumbo's Three Ring Circus deal. So where those two big tents are now will become home to both Dumbo spinners and the interactive no queue thing. The blueprints however show that the Barnstormer is actually staying behind, so I wonder if they'll retheme it or not.

Anyhow what do you have in mind for Toontown?

 

[mharrington]

Yes Mickey's Toontown Fair is going to be demolished for the new Fantasyland. It will be replaced by the whole Dumbo's Three Ring Circus deal. So where those two big tents are now will become home to both Dumbo spinners and the interactive no queue thing. The blueprints however show that the Barnstormer is actually staying behind, so I wonder if they'll retheme it or not.

Anyhow what do you have in mind for Toontown?

Given its proximity to the new Dumbo area, I'll wager that the Barnstormer will be rethemed as Casey Jr.

As for what I have in mind, I will explain piece by piece. Right off the bat, I want to make this area of the park more appealing than just for the young-uns. About the only things here for older people to do are the Roger Rabbit ride and, to a lesser extent, Mickey and Minnie's houses.

In my plan, Donald's Boat and Goofy's Playhouse will both be eliminated since they've become too neutered by people who practically live on lawsuits. In their places will be new homes that will now serve as queues for more exciting stuff to do. Gadget's Go Coaster will also be removed and a new family coaster (when I say "family", I mean "children of all ages") be built in its place. This coaster will be Goofy-themed and this is where the queue themed to Goofy's new house will take place.

But I'm getting ahead of myself. I'll tell you more later, in more detail...

 

[mharrington]

In the Roger Rabbit ride, it will be less altered than the rest of the land, but it, too, will have a few small alterations, mainly in the queue. It will not be anything major, not even anything to write home about. Most of it will be in the queue area, in fact.

First of all, the plate that reads FAN T C will be replaced by one reading FAN T ZA (meaning "Fantasia"). The year on that one will still be 1938. But the most attention will be on the second set of plates, found here: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2564727241_314a9964db.jpg.

Two brand-new plates will be added to this set, one on the very top of the stack (almost touching the ceiling) and the other below the 1D N PTR one and next to the IM L8 one. The one on the very top will read ALADN, the displayed year being 1940. And the one near the bottom will read DONL DUK, its year being 1934. These alterations will also be in place for Tokyo's version of the ride. There, the plate reading DONL DUK will also have its year be 1934, and FAN T C will also become FAN T ZA (in Japan, that displayed year is 1943), but ALADN's year will be 1933. But I digress...

Elsewhere in the ride, a new radio broadcast on Baby Herman's radio will be featured. Much of it will be similar to the old one, but mainly with all references to WACKY Radio being replaced by a new station, dubbed KRAZY Radio, as well as feature a new sponsor for the broadcast, in addition to the Big Bad Wolf Demolition Company: Von Drake's House of Genius (Von Drake himself is then heard on the radio saying, "This is the house, and I'm the genius."). In the ride itself, there will be the sounds of cartoon tires squealing here and there, and in the scene with the evil laughing clowns, an additional laughing sound is heard, sounding very much like the laughing hyena sound from Small World.

 

[ScorpionX]

Hi-ho, Kermit the frog here, for the license plates, mharrington, the year displayed should be the year the film or character(s) were released/debuted. Gadget's Go-Coaster should be rethemed to be the Magic Kingdom's Barnstormer. Bacause of that, Goofy's Playhouse will be replaced by Panchito's Mexican Hut, which is a tour of Panchito Pistoles's home, just as it is with Mickey and Minnie's homes.

 

[mharrington]

Hi-ho, Kermit the frog here, for the license plates, mharrington, the year displayed should be the year the film or character(s) were released/debuted. Gadget's Go-Coaster should be rethemed to be the Magic Kingdom's Barnstormer. Bacause of that, Goofy's Playhouse will be replaced by Panchito's Mexican Hut, which is a tour of Panchito Pistoles's home, just as it is with Mickey and Minnie's homes.

I don't know about Panchito, but Gadget's Go Coaster is being replaced by something with a Goofy theme. And as for the license plates, the ride is supposedly set in the same year as in the original movie, which is 1947. So all the years displayed are shown up through '47.

Oh, and I also learned that WACKY Radio is also played on the radios in Mickey and Minnie's houses, so that station too will be replaced by KRAZY Radio.

Now, for the Goofy coaster I told you about so much: I want to replace both Goofy's Bounce... Oh, excuse me, Goofy's Playhouse and Gadget's Go Coaster, both problematic in my book, with a new family coaster, but you can ride with or without children. It will be called either Goofy's Driving School or Goofy's Goof Coaster. Can you tell me which sounds better? The queue for the ride is set in Goofy's new house, which features relics of the old house.

Goofy's Driving School/Goofy's Goof Coaster is allegedly a driving school that Goofy hosts at his own house. His cars are parked out by his backyard. You go up a crude-looking freeway ramp to go around the course, which has been sabotaged by Pete, causing the cars to go berserk. You then shoot around the course, in a similar fashion to the Barnstormer. As a nod to history, as you skim the waters of the new watery area for Donald's Dock (a new ride whose queue is the new home for Donald's Boat), you zip past frogs that strategically spit water at you as you pass.

 

[Disneyson 1]

^That's such a great idea! I hope you don't mind me using the general idea of the ride for an idea I had about a Toontown Ride Trio!

 

[mharrington]

^That's such a great idea! I hope you don't mind me using the general idea of the ride for an idea I had about a Toontown Ride Trio!

What are you talking about?

 

[Disneyson 1]

i was thinking of creating 3 new rides for Toontown: "Chip n' Dale's Treetop Drop", "Jolly Trolly Toontown Tour", and a replacement for Gadget's Go Coaster... this is a great idea, but of course I'll change it so it's mine; just the idea of putting Goofy in the coaster is great!

 

[mharrington]

i was thinking of creating 3 new rides for Toontown: "Chip n' Dale's Treetop Drop", "Jolly Trolly Toontown Tour", and a replacement for Gadget's Go Coaster... this is a great idea, but of course I'll change it so it's mine; just the idea of putting Goofy in the coaster is great!

Maybe the Treetop Drop could go where the Treehouse currently is and the Trolley Tour could be a simulator?

 

[MANEATINGWREATH]

Wouldn't Goofy's Driving School and Goofy's Sky School possibly get mixed up? I mean they could be companion attractions or pretty much the same things with different concepts. Not to be a buzzkill or anything it's a great idea for an attraction though.

 

[mharrington]

Wouldn't Goofy's Driving School and Goofy's Sky School possibly get mixed up? I mean they could be companion attractions or pretty much the same things with different concepts. Not to be a buzzkill or anything it's a great idea for an attraction though.

Well, had it not been for DCA, I would probably go with Sky School. I think that DCA is in the air right now on this one.

 

[Disneyson 1]

Maybe the Treetop Drop could go where the Treehouse currently is and the Trolley Tour could be a simulator?

Yeah, I have a summary all set for the Treetop Drop, just need to write it... the rides are basically a return to storytelling in Toontown, so I thought that the Goofy ride was a great idea! Only problem: people can clearly tell that the ride's not on a "road" and that it's a coster, and the coaster trains don't look much like cars, even with modifications.

 

[mharrington]

Donald's Boat would be replaced by this ride called Donald's Dock. The queue for the ride is a new version of Donald's house and boat all mashed into one, but not featuring any interactive elements. Donald's Dock is a new water ride, intended not just for kids, but for anyone with or without kids. The entrance looks something like this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_OO7WbmARD08/SQoROaB6dkI/AAAAAAAAJGE/g1T_YpXT_ow/s400/Donald%27sDock90.jpg.

The ride itself is sort of based on this abandoned ride concept called Duck Bumps: http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/images/upload/duck-bumps.jpg.

In the queue, there will be interactive elements, like in Indy, for in the event of long lines so guests won't get bored. One thing it would have is a rope for people to tug on. It would be based on a rope shown in the IJA queue for people to pull, while a sign next to it forbids that. When you pull on that rope, you hear a British-sounding man yelling at you for doing so. In the queue for Donald's Dock, when you pull on that rope, you hear Donald yelling at you for doing so. Another thing I was considering having in the queue is this tasteful-looking map, found at WDW's Toontown Fair: http://land.allears.net/blogs/photoblog/Donald_Ducks_Boat_in_the_Magic_Kingdom.jpg.

Anyway, the ride itself, of course, would not be a bumper boat ride, it will be more like TDS' Aquatopia. It will be functionally the same and everything. As on that ride, your toon-themed watercraft will twist, turn, backup, spin around in place, all while taking you on a seemingly random trip dodging jagged rocks, spinning whirlpools, other watercraft and streams of water fired at you from both strategically-placed frogs and also from Donald's nephews, Huey, Dewey and Louie, who all wait on some of the rocks to let you have it with water cannons. The direction your vehicle travels in is not random, of course, but controlled by unseen technology borrowed from Tokyo Disneyland's Pooh's Hunny Hunt. The ride takes place on a brand-new Toon Lake, which is partially where the new coaster (either Goofy's Driving School or Goofy's Goof Coaster) replacing Gadget's Go Coaster will also take place.

With this ride alone, there should be more reason for people to spend more time in Toontown and do more than just the Car Toon Spin and Mickey and Minnie's houses (all of which will remain by the time that I'm through).

Oh, and I almost forgot: Toontown will be expanded to feature the new rides. I can't find an overhead map of it right now, but when I do, I will put it up. Also, the position of the Toontown train station will be switched so as to actually be in Toontown and not necessarily in Fantasyland. The station will remain.

 

[mharrington]

Yeah, I have a summary all set for the Treetop Drop, just need to write it... the rides are basically a return to storytelling in Toontown, so I thought that the Goofy ride was a great idea! Only problem: people can clearly tell that the ride's not on a "road" and that it's a coster, and the coaster trains don't look much like cars, even with modifications.

Well, what should I do with the roller coaster then? What could I theme it to?