Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

[BrianLo]

Yeah I have to agree. Ideally it would have gone in DCA but I’m not mad at where it ended up.

You don’t think the line for MMRR will hover at around 45 min to an hour? Even with Genie + / ILL inflating the standby times? I guess if we go by how it’s doing at DHS (a park with 9 rides) you could be right. Although I wonder if people treating that park as a half day park kind of dirty that data.

I'm sure if the park is nightmarish and everything has big waits it will hit high numbers. I just think it will proportionally settle into what it's worth. I think the savvy park visitor after the newness wears off won't have much problem getting on it in 15-20 minutes. Heck, I've frequently encountered Millennium Falcon to be a walk on at Disneyland. Its removal from the main strip will help it.

P.S. its a better attraction than MF for me, just comparing how a big ticket item shoved off into the corner with an ok capacity will be fine.

 

[J4546]

I can't wait to see what the CA Hollywood land expansion is gonna be, Def will be a massive imrovement no matter what imo

 

[PiratesMansion]

I can't wait to see what the CA Hollywood land expansion is gonna be, Def will be a massive imrovement no matter what imo

On what basis? Particularly when Disney's reaction to the claim that "they can't make ___________ any worse" has often been met with "hold my beer."

 

[J4546]

On the basis that hollywoodland is terrible. By far the worst area of CA. Monsters Inc is ok and there's nothing else there but boring stores and photo ops imo. I think it would be hard to make worse but that's just me

 

[PiratesMansion]

On the basis that hollywoodland is terrible. By far the worst area of CA. Monsters Inc is ok and there's nothing else there but boring stores and photo ops imo. I think it would be hard to make worse but that's just me

 

[lazyboy97o]

On what basis? Particularly when Disney's reaction to the claim that "they can't make ___________ any worse" has often been met with "hold my beer."

It’s an easy claim when you call everything great.

 

[TP2000]

I generally think MMRR is a pleasant little ride that, due to less-than-stellar design, takes up a ridiculous amount of space completely disproportionate to the actual experience it delivers.

In that respect, it’s much like the Nemo subs. It’s a C or maybe D ticket experience in E ticket clothing.

I look forward to experiencing it. But I think Disneyland already clearly got the better deal when it comes to space usage.

At Disneyland it uses up warehouse/office space north of Toontown that was not doing anything for the park's paying visitors, and expanded the park's footprint and added another family big ride to Disneyland's roster. It pushed the park footprint even further beyond its boundaries that were expanded in 1992 with Toontown. An improvement all around for Disneyland!

At DHS, it took up an existing big warehouse building and just swapped one E Ticket for another (alleged) E Ticket. DHS had no net gain of attraction count or ride capacity, it just used an existing big building in the middle of the park to change the ride already inside. And DHS has one of the most pathetic ride lineups of Disney's global parks and needs every single new ride it can get instead of just replacing existing ones! Pathetic, really.

DHS After MMRR Opened:
9 Rides, 5 of them E Tickets

Disneyland Park After MMRR Opened:
40 Rides, 14 of them E Tickets

 

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

I look forward to experiencing it. But I think Disneyland already clearly got the better deal when it comes to space usage.

At Disneyland it uses up warehouse/office space north of Toontown that was not doing anything for the park's paying visitors, and expanded the park's footprint and added another family big ride to Disneyland's roster. It pushed the park footprint even further beyond its boundaries that were expanded in 1992 with Toontown. An improvement all around for Disneyland!

At DHS, it took up an existing big warehouse building and just swapped one E Ticket for another (alleged) E Ticket. DHS had no net gain of attraction count or ride capacity, it just used an existing big building in the middle of the park to change the ride already inside. And DHS has one of the most pathetic ride lineups of Disney's global parks and needs every single new ride it can get instead of just replacing existing ones! Pathetic, really.

DHS After MMRR Opened:
9 Rides, 5 of them E Tickets

Disneyland After MMRR Opened:
40 Rides, 14 of them E Tickets

Runaway Railway does not deserve to be the flagship attraction of DHS. I'm sorry Paul Rudish, I love your incarnation of the mouse but he shouldn't be the replacement for a legendary attraction that embodied the spirit of your park. With it gone, DHS is just a jumbled mess with very few remnants of what it once was.

That, and the park has major capacity issues. I always thought it had the weakest selection of rides LOL.

 

[TP2000]

Railway was going to go into the DCA's Holloywood Land, had the Eastern Gateway not been canned.

Good reminder of what the future of DCA's HollywoodLand really looks like. It's eventually going to be expanded north of its current footprint, if the Eastern Gateway ever moves forward (even as just an Uber/Shuttle Bus loading zone).

I'll be the odd man out and say I loved MMRR. Very glad it's coming to Walt's park. I'll probably ride it every visit alongside Pirates, Mansion, Indy, and Small World.

I think it looks very fun and clever. I'm of the opinion it should be classified as an E Ticket.

But even if you classify it as a D Ticket, it looks like a wonderful addition to any park roster that gets it. That it went into Disneyland, and was an instant ride addition without subtracting any other ride, and it expanded the existing park acreage and size to do it is all extra icing on that cake for Disneyland.

It's just a shame they already ran out of space to use for park expansion in Walt Disney World. They really need to be adding rides to their weak parks out there, not simply swapping out old E Tickets for new E Tickets. Walt should have bought more land in Florida!

 

[BubbaisSleep]

Good reminder of what the future of DCA's HollywoodLand really looks like. It's eventually going to be expanded north of its current footprint, if the Eastern Gateway ever moves forward (even as just an Uber/Shuttle Bus loading zone).



I think it looks very fun and clever. I'm of the opinion it should be classified as an E Ticket.

But even if you classify it as a D Ticket, it looks like a wonderful addition to any park roster that gets it. That it went into Disneyland, and was an instant ride addition without subtracting any other ride, and it expanded the existing park acreage and size to do it is all extra icing on that cake for Disneyland.

It's just a shame they already ran out of space to use for park expansion in Walt Disney World. They really need to be adding rides to their weak parks out there, not simply swapping out old E Tickets for new E Tickets. Walt should have bought more land in Florida!

Well said! I loved MMRR but it was implemented very poorly at DHS. DHS should have placed this in a dying/dated section of the park & updated GMR with newer scenes. Today DLR will have another ride addition to their lineup & a refreshed land because it, whereas DHS still feels a few rides short and Animation Courtyard still exists in its dying state.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Looks amazing. Really feels like a cartoon world.

 

[TP2000]

Getting up to speed on this new ride here, it really sunk in how impactful this new ride will be for Disneyland.

• It expanded the park's footprint by 2.5 Acres to the north, taking over space once used for a two story office building and a surface parking lot that had been behind Toontown since the early 1990's.
• The massive new show warehouse and queue access building for MMMRR at Disneyland is just over 100,000 square feet, built on land that was never part of the Park until now.

Everything within the red box below is brand new acreage for Disneyland Park, adding one large and lavish new ride to the Park's already huge ride roster. I can make fun of the often clueless execs in this otherwise troubled age as much as the next guy, but on this MMRR project they really hit it out of the park (pun intended!).

I'm kind of glad this didn't go into DCA. Save that HollywoodLand expansion plot for other stuff and future ride concepts. Disneyland just got a great new high-capacity ride with no height requirement!

 

[Disney Analyst]

Getting up to speed on this new ride here, it really sunk in how impactful this new ride will be for Disneyland.

• It expanded the park's footprint by 2.5 Acres to the north, taking over space once used for a two story office building and a surface parking lot that had been behind Toontown since the early 1990's.
• The massive new show warehouse and queue access building for MMMRR at Disneyland is just over 100,000 square feet, built on land that was never part of the Park until now.

Everything within the red box below is brand new acreage for Disneyland Park, adding one large and lavish new ride to the Park's already huge ride roster. I can make fun of the often clueless execs in this otherwise troubled age as much as the next guy, but on this MMRR project they really hit it out of the park (pun intended!).

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I'm kind of glad this didn't go into DCA. Save that HollywoodLand expansion plot for other stuff and future ride concepts. Disneyland just got a great new high-capacity ride with no height requirement!

It’s really a boon for Disneyland. DHS could never.

No ride replacements, still maintain office / backstage infrastructure in that new giant building, and ToonTown gets a redo to go along with it.

I know Disney is expensive, but I still think Disneyland is the best Disney park in the US (possibly world) in terms of value, density of attractions, and of course the nostalgia.

 

[Brer Oswald]

It’s really a boon for Disneyland. DHS could never.

No ride replacements, still maintain office / backstage infrastructure in that new giant building, and ToonTown gets a redo to go along with it.

I know Disney is expensive, but I still think Disneyland is the best Disney park in the US (possibly world) in terms of value, density of attractions, and of course the nostalgia.

It easily eclipses the WDW parks, which I have little to no desire to go back to (despite visiting for most of the years in my life).

 

[J4546]

this is looking really really good cant wait to see the new refreshed toontown

 

[DCBaker]

 

[DLR>WDW]

“LIGHTENING LANE”

 

[drizgirl]

“LIGHTENING LANE”

Oy.

 

[Disney Analyst]

“LIGHTENING LANE”

Okay who have they hired in the signs / copy department that needs to be proofread?

 

[celluloid]

Someone call the Ink and Painters. They could have at least called it a Lightening Lane as a joke for the attraction.
Geesh.