Maybe It’s Time For Disney To Bring Back Hand Drawn Animation

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TsWade2

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Hi,
Okay, before I say something, this is just a suggestion and my wishful thinking. Anyway, since the Snow White Remake is a complete critical and box office flop and rightfully so, in my opinion, I think Disney should stop making live action remakes and bring back hand drawn animation for making more hand drawn animated movies again with continuation of doing CGI animated films. I mean, I think the people are sick and tired of Live Action remakes. Yes, the live action remake of Lilo and Stitch is coming and I'm sure it'll do better at the box office and the live action of Moana, but I think, like I said, in my opinion and suggestion, this maybe the good time to bring back hand drawn animation. Because now there are a lot've rumors that Disney is considering bringing back hand drawn animation. Not ssure how true it is, so I'll take it as a grain of salt. Anyway, I know this maybe unlikely, but I'm just saying. Maybe it's time for Disney to give hand drawn animation another try with the right story, the right writers, and the right songwriting team. Again, just saying.
 
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Phroobar

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Prince-1 said:
I'd love to see more (or any) hand drawn Disney movies but it ain't happening any time soon.
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That's the thing. There is a lot of new animation that is hand drawn (not by Disney). Not everything has to be in 3D. Sure it is computer assisted. No one is painting cells anymore.
 
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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TsWade2 said:
Hi,
Okay, before I say something, this is just a suggestion and my wishful thinking. Anyway, since the Snow White Remake is a complete critical and box office flop and rightfully so, in my opinion, I think Disney should stop making live action remakes and bring back hand drawn animation for making more hand drawn animated movies again with continuation of doing CGI animated films. I mean, I think the people are sick and tired of Live Action remakes. Yes, the live action remake of Lilo and Stitch is coming and I'm sure it'll do better at the box office and the live action of Moana, but I think, like I said, in my opinion and suggestion, this maybe the good time to bring back hand drawn animation. Because now there are a lot've rumors that Disney is considering bringing back hand drawn animation. Not ssure how true it is, so I'll take it as a grain of salt. Anyway, I know this maybe unlikely, but I'm saying. Maybe it's time for Disney to give hand drawn animation another try with the right story, the right writers, and the right songwriting team. Again, just saying.
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While I don't disagree they should stop the Live Action remakes in general, they don't have to stop them in order for Disney to do hand drawn animation again. So its not an either/or situation, they could do both if they wanted to.

For now however I don't see Disney making any real concerted effort to bring back hand drawn animation in any major way. They may do it for a few shorts here and there, but a major feature I doubt it, at least not any time soon.

But who knows stranger things have happened.
 
Disney Irish

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Phroobar said:
That's the thing. There is a lot of new animation that is hand drawn (not be Disney). Not everything has to be in 3D. Sure it is computer assisted. No one is painting cells anymore.
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True, but do you see Disney at this point making an investment back into hand drawn 2D? I don't, at least not soon.
 
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TsWade2

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Disney Irish said:
While I don't disagree they should stop the Live Action remakes in general, they don't have to stop them in order for Disney to do hand drawn animation again. So its not an either/or situation, they could do both if they wanted to.

For now however I don't see Disney making any real concerted effort to bring back hand drawn animation in any major way. They may do it for a few shorts here and there, but a major feature I doubt it, at least not any time soon.

But who knows stranger things have happened.
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Like I said, it's just a suggestion and my wishful thinking. But like you said, strangers things have happened.
 
Heppenheimer

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From what I understand, most of the institutional knowledge of how to do hand drawn animation is gone from the House of the Mouse. They would basically need to learn most of the trade from scratch again. Given the financial pressures Disney is under right now, I don't see that happening.

That being said, I would love to see a return to traditional animation, although most of the problems with recent Disney films has been the poor writing and forgettable music, not the animation.
 
Disney Irish

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Brer Panther said:
That was a sequel to a really popular film, of course it was gonna make a ton of money.

If anything, its success probably just convinced Disney that sequels are more profitable than original films.
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So? Irrespective of Moana 2 being a sequel to an otherwise successful movie (also CGI BTW), CGI movies do actually make money. Just look at all of the Dreamworks and Illumination films.

So again what is the point of bringing up the two that failed in a reference to the "x doesn't make money anymore", when there are literally dozen of examples from the last decade that renders that point moot.

BTW, I'm not saying Disney shouldn't make another hand drawn animated feature. But this point you tried to make was just silly.
 
Brer Panther

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Disney Irish said:
So? Irrespective of Moana 2 being a sequel to an otherwise successful movie (also CGI BTW), CGI movies do actually make money. Just look at all of the Dreamworks and Illumination films.

So again what is the point of bringing up the two that failed in a reference to the "x doesn't make money anymore", when there are literally dozen of examples from the last decade that renders that point moot.
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Yes, but I can name several hand-drawn films that were very successful. The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, Lilo and Stitch, Mulan, Tarzan...

Atlantis didn't flop just because it was hand-drawn. Nor did Treasure Planet. Or Home on the Range. I don't think Strange World and Wish flopped just because they were CGI either. It's just a hypocritical mindset.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Brer Panther said:
Yes, but I can name several hand-drawn films that were very successful. The Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, Lilo and Stitch, Mulan, Tarzan...

Atlantis didn't flop just because it was hand-drawn. Nor did Treasure Planet. Or Home on the Range. I don't think Strange World and Wish flopped just because they were CGI either. It's just a hypocritical mindset.
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And what do all of those have in common? They all came out in a time during which hand drawn animation (even though some included CG backgrounds but we don't talk about that) was having a renaissance, ie mostly the 90s. Times change, so do audience tastes. Right now CGI is where the audience is at. That doesn't mean it can't swing back the other way.

But none of that negates the point, you brought up two specific CGI failures and tried to attribute them to a quote made about hand drawn animation. As if to say that CGI isn't making money, which couldn't be further from the truth. So I'll ask, outside of anime, has there been one full length hand drawn animated feature by ANY company on the globe that was a success in 2020s? 2010s? To my mind there has been none, again outside of the anime features.
 
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TsWade2

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Okay, first of all, I’m sorry I overreacted I decided to bring it back. I understand that we’re being skeptical for thinking if Disney is bringing back hand drawn animation or not. But I’m here to tell you guys that hand drawn animation or in this case 2D animation is making a resurgence. For example, Studio Ghibli’s The Boy and the Heron was in theaters two years ago. It’s critically acclaimed and a box office success. And then it won an Oscar for Best Animated Feature back in 2024. And there’s a lot’ve rumors that Disney might considering bringing back hand drawn animation. Maybe not back as the 90’s renaissance, but maybe some sot of hybrid is here like Paperman, Feast, and Far From The Tree. Wish is a good try, but Disney needs to try harder if Disney is trying to make another Spiderverse kind of movie. We’ll just wait and see.
 
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TsWade2

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Disney Irish said:
And what do all of those have in common? They all came out in a time during which hand drawn animation (even though some included CG backgrounds but we don't talk about that) was having a renaissance, ie mostly the 90s. Times change, so do audience tastes. Right now CGI is where the audience is at. That doesn't mean it can't swing back the other way.

But none of that negates the point, you brought up two specific CGI failures and tried to attribute them to a quote made about hand drawn animation. As if to say that CGI isn't making money, which couldn't be further from the truth. So I'll ask, outside of anime, has there been one full length hand drawn animated feature by ANY company on the globe that was a success in 2020s? 2010s? To my mind there has been none, again outside of the anime features.
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There is a 2D animated movie that was successful here in America two years ago, and it’s called The Boy and the Heron. You know, the Studio Ghibli’s film.
 
Disney Irish

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TsWade2 said:
There is a 2D animated movie that was successful here in America two years ago, and it’s called The Boy and the Heron. You know, the Studio Ghibli’s film.
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The difference is its an anime film. Anime is having a bit of popularity right now in the US and around the world. It remains to be seen if this is a short term or long term trend.

If Disney wants to get into the Studio Ghibli business and produce traditional anime style features, well I'm all for it. But that is not what you're wanting, you're wanting a traditional Disney Animated Feature using traditional Disney 2D hand drawn animation. And that just isn't something Disney is willing to do at this moment. Maybe in the future.
 

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