Martin the Spartan's MK park

[martinthesparta]

You know im in the same boat as you. I think a Little mermaid ride would rock major socks, but what to put in and what to leave out there is so much that could be put in. But for my version so far I have that its going to be set up like the classic rides of Pinocio, and Alice from DL. but well with more tecnology and really cool water effects, cause hey its underwater.

I'd probally have an inverted track like the one planned for paris, but I have to watch the movie and figure out the rest from there

Your intregalactic zoo would be so much fun. but I think it would work just as well if you 86ed the trams and had it set up like a petting zoo, and aloud the guest to interact with these "animals" I know that the tecnology is growing so much that disney has an AA that walks around the park and interacts with the guest. You could do that but keep it confined to one area. For insperation on things to put in your zoo, take a look at Lilo and stich. the movie and the show has Aleains that could work very well because they are unique and kid friendly.

A petting zoo is a nice idea, but maybe as a post show, I still like the idea of riding through different fake environments.

Tron 2.0- the pre show sounds amazing and I think that its perfect. Im still a little confued about the glasses. Is there going to be a 3d show part that the glasses will be used for, or is it just so that you could move the room around? cuase there is the whole HM idea that you could do, useing an emevator. that way you could do whatever you wanted for the pre show. make the special effects look amazing. and then no one would know that they realy moved anywere. and you wouldn't need the glasses anymore.

Like in the movie Tron their were flashing lights and designs when Flynn got sucked into the tron world and if people were seeing that through the glasses they wouldn't notice the room was slowly turning. See what I mean.

 

[Jekyll Baker]

Idea for your Tomorrowland, how 'bout make your alien petting zoo the post-show for your Space Mountain? The concept of the original SM I believe was supposed to be like a space station. So maybe you could tweak the storyline for your SM and "take off" from this world, a quick journey through space and "land/arrive" at an intergalactic cageless zoo, complete with alien lifeforms living in their "natural" environments, with some of the tamer creatures actually being pet-able. And for some of the creatures that do not live in oxygen environments, they would be behind glass - allowing for the glass to possibly be large video screens showing sophisticated animations of creatures in aquatic or gaseous environs (kind of like aquarium screensavers)

 

[martinthesparta]

Idea for your Tomorrowland, how 'bout make your alien petting zoo the post-show for your Space Mountain? The concept of the original SM I believe was supposed to be like a space station. So maybe you could tweak the storyline for your SM and "take off" from this world, a quick journey through space and "land/arrive" at an intergalactic cageless zoo, complete with alien lifeforms living in their "natural" environments, with some of the tamer creatures actually being pet-able. And for some of the creatures that do not live in oxygen environments, they would be behind glass - allowing for the glass to possibly be large video screens showing sophisticated animations of creatures in aquatic or gaseous environs (kind of like aquarium screensavers)

Oooohhhh... I definetly like that idea! I'll ponder that for later consideration. Want to work on other attractions, and need to get going so I can get some feed back. Are there any history buffs roaming the boards that may have input on my american journeys ride, or does anyone know what mountain of fire translates to in a polynesian dialect?

 

[Jekyll Baker]

Let's see, in Hawai'ian (probably the easiest or most recognizable Polynesian language to research) "mountain of fire" could be "Mauna Ahi." Other options for you could be "Mauna Kapu" (Taboo/Forbidden Mountain), "Mauna Pele" (volcanic mountain, or mountain of Pele the volcano goddess), or "Mauna `Ena" (red-hot mountain). I'll try to remember to look through some of my resources to find other languages that might sound more interesting.

BTW, how's Milwaukee? It's been years (20+) since I've been up there. My mother's from there (southside - 11th Avenue/Street - used to be a very German/Polish neighborhood), and we used to go visit my grandparents once every year or two. Used to love going to the museum and some of the foods that just can't be properly found down here in GA.

Anyway, as for the history buff part, that's not me - sorry. The language thing is easier since Linguistics is an interest of mine.

 

[FigmentDream]

Let's see, in Hawai'ian (probably the easiest or most recognizable Polynesian language to research) "mountain of fire" could be "Mauna Ahi." Other options for you could be "Mauna Kapu" (Taboo/Forbidden Mountain), "Mauna Pele" (volcanic mountain, or mountain of Pele the volcano goddess), or "Mauna `Ena" (red-hot mountain). I'll try to remember to look through some of my resources to find other languages that might sound more interesting.

Ya, I was thinking Hawwain would be the easiest aswell, I know I found a free on-line Hawaiian translator once, it probably wouldn't be that hard to search for it and find it again. Wouldn't be Polynesian, but what about Latin? Most things sound pretty cool in that:

ex. Fire Mountain= Incendia Mons

Gettin More into that southern area in Latin-America Spansih

Fire Mountain = Fuego Montaña
Incendio Montaña
Incendio Monte
Fuego Monte

 

[Jekyll Baker]

Let's see, in Hawai'ian (probably the easiest or most recognizable Polynesian language to research) "mountain of fire" could be "Mauna Ahi." Other options for you could be "Mauna Kapu" (Taboo/Forbidden Mountain), "Mauna Pele" (volcanic mountain, or mountain of Pele the volcano goddess), or "Mauna `Ena" (red-hot mountain). I'll try to remember to look through some of my resources to find other languages that might sound more interesting.

OK most of the Polynesian languages are in the same family, so can sound similar, but here's a few options to show you

Fire Mountain: Mauna Ahi (Hawai'ian); Maunga Ahi / Maunga Kāpura (Māori); Maúga Ahi (Rapanui); Mauga Afi (Samoan)

Forbidden Mountain: Mauna Kapu (Hawai'ian); Maunga Tapu (Māori); Mauga Tapu (Samoan)

 

[martinthesparta]

Sorry everybody that I haven't been here in a while. I've been workin my butt off, but I promise lengthy updates are on the way.

Let's see, in Hawai'ian (probably the easiest or most recognizable Polynesian language to research) "mountain of fire" could be "Mauna Ahi." Other options for you could be "Mauna Kapu" (Taboo/Forbidden Mountain), "Mauna Pele" (volcanic mountain, or mountain of Pele the volcano goddess), or "Mauna `Ena" (red-hot mountain). I'll try to remember to look through some of my resources to find other languages that might sound more interesting.

Yeah, those sound nice but not the name of this attraction, but it's a good start. What would also be helpful would be a source for polynesian myth, culture, religion ect. My idea is well to start the ride with a mild boat ride portion with scenary, and a section thru a polynesian village(thing poly version of el rio del tiempo) before entering the volcano whos entrance is the mouth of the volcano god/dess with glowing eyes. So anthing I can add this portion to give it character will help.

BTW, how's Milwaukee? It's been years (20+) since I've been up there. My mother's from there (southside - 11th Avenue/Street - used to be a very German/Polish neighborhood), and we used to go visit my grandparents once every year or two. Used to love going to the museum and some of the foods that just can't be properly found down here in GA.

It's, well, dull old milwaukee. A neat city for sure, but not that much goin on, although the museum is very awesome.

 

[martinthesparta]

Ya, I was thinking Hawwain would be the easiest aswell, I know I found a free on-line Hawaiian translator once, it probably wouldn't be that hard to search for it and find it again. Wouldn't be Polynesian, but what about Latin? Most things sound pretty cool in that:

ex. Fire Mountain= Incendia Mons

Gettin More into that southern area in Latin-America Spansih

Fire Mountain = Fuego Montaña
Incendio Montaña
Incendio Monte
Fuego Monte

I kinda like El Fuego Montana, but a spanish name for a polynesian ride doesn't really work I don't think.

 

[martinthesparta]

OK most of the Polynesian languages are in the same family, so can sound similar, but here's a few options to show you

Fire Mountain: Mauna Ahi (Hawai'ian); Maunga Ahi / Maunga Kāpura (Māori); Maúga Ahi (Rapanui); Mauga Afi (Samoan)

Forbidden Mountain: Mauna Kapu (Hawai'ian); Maunga Tapu (Māori); Mauga Tapu (Samoan)

I think we can do better, but thanks for the research. Maybe if we thought of a better name in english we could come up with something interesting.

Now that i'm thinking about it, I do have a few opinions to ask for.

For starters, I want to change the geography of the park to set it aside from MK parks, but am not sure how to do that. The existing layout is fairly flawless. Each neighboring land is simular enough that they blend, and I just don't know how to keep that but change the locations. for example, adventure and frontier mesh well, but liberty and tomorrow don't, see what I mean. And Main Street really needs to remain a straight street unless I give it a different name but maintain the general idea, that might work better.

The idea so far is to start with main street as usual and have liberty shoot off from the left side. After that I'm clueless. Any thoughts?

 

[martinthesparta]

Alright, I have finally made a little progress. First of all, the working name is World of Magic, simple yet effective, familiar yet different.

And now the geography of the park. Main street will be configured as usual yet shorter. A street will shoot off to the left and lead to Liberty Harbour. Slightly to the left is Adventureland(which is also linked to Liberty Harbour) and next to it to the right will be Frontierland.

Make a right at the end of Main Street and head down the road to Fantasy land. In between Main Street and fantasy is tomorrowland. I'll post a crude drawing to better illistrate my idea. Kind of think of it this way, look at the MK map, keep adventure and frontier where they are, now take main street, turn it toward the left so it is horizontal and have the center of the street line up with the adventue/frontier border. Hopefully this helps and isn't more confusing, but like I said I'll post an illistration. It's only tenative, but a decent start. I'm still not real sure how I can keep the castle and frontierland far enough from eachother to not clash.

As far as the configureation of each land, adventure land will be simular to the WDW version. Jungle Cruise will be in relatively the same spot, and fire mountain will intersect with the jungle cruise route so you cruise through the volcano. Swiss family will be next to jungle Cruise, and the haunted temple will roughly be where pirates is and very visible from the street.

Liberty Harbour will be a circular body of water (with an outlet of course) with buildings around it. I don't know if buildins should be around the whole bay or just part of it and the rest just a stone wall with trees behind it on an incline or what. The attractions will obviously be around the bay.

Frontierland is back to back with adventurewith mystery lodge and WRE roughly where splash is in WDW and BTF where tom sawyer island isbut for now facing straight instead of to the side. As to the rest I'm still figuring. My main concern is configureing fantasy and frontier so they don't clash, any ideas?

 

[stitch001]

Hey that sounds like a plan. and for the fantasy and frontier consern, mayba a river bracking the two up, or a whole nother land?

One question though, if your fliping main street, will the castle be on the tomorrowland side, or the adevtureland side?

 

[martinthesparta]

Hey that sounds like a plan. and for the fantasy and frontier consern, mayba a river bracking the two up, or a whole nother land?

One question though, if your fliping main street, will the castle be on the tomorrowland side, or the adevtureland side?

Well, fantasyland is basically in between frontier and tomorrowland, so I guess the tomorrowland side. the castle is roughly in the same spott as in WDW but further back.

My main concern with the castle is it's visibility from fronteir because the look is so radical it would take people out of the theme, but I guess if thunder mountain is in the way no one would see it anyways.

 

[FigmentDream]

Keep in mind forced perspective can be a powerful tool, aswell

 

[martinthesparta]

Keep in mind forced perspective can be a powerful tool, aswell

I know what you mean, but I don't so could you elaborate.