Martin the Spartan's MK park

[martinthesparta]

Ok, my turn to take a crack at this. I've been sitting on a lot of good ideas for awhile and I wanna share. I don't know where this park should be placed, so maybe you can help. The prblem is building a park in the US might take attendace from the other MK parks no matter where you put it (unless maybe Hawaii given all the tourists and all), and Liberty Square is eccential for my design so putting it in another country doesn't really work, but this issue can be worked around.

At this point the park is much like WDW MK in structure with adventure, frontieir, fantasy, and tommorrowland, main street, and liberty square, although I want to do things to make it visually different even if I don't know what those things are yet.

Here's the kicker. Most of the attractions in this park are currenty in no other disney park, and even the ones that are the same are a different version. In other words what this means is there is NO POTC, Haunted Mansion, Small world, BTMR amongst other familiar rides which will not be included. I know, it sounds a lot like HKDL, but trust me, there are suitable replacements.

The attractions I have a good idea about, so I mostly need help with which ones to use and most imprtantly shops and restaurants.

Alright, lets get started:

Liberty Square-

I'm flirting with the idea of calling it Liberty Bay or something to that effect. Probally a colonial shipping town. Try mixing liberty square and american water front and it's probally pretty close. There will be no tom sawyer island but instead just the bay for a night time spectacular of some type. I would like this area to have a little more spirit, like it's the fourth of july everyday, or something. Here's my current list of attractions:

-Hall of Presidents- Probally very simular to the current incarnation.

-American Journeys- Think boat ride version of american adventure. Simular to pirates in execution, scenes like boston tea party ect (will post when I have a better idea)

-Doom Buggies- Think haunted mansion mixed with space mountain. Basically the roller coaster version of haunted mansion. Many more dark ride elements than most coasters though and would almost be considered a hybrid of the two types. Coaster type will be "designer wild mouse" like SM and you ride in little buggy car things. Parts may be outside. My only real problem with this is the style of the building. To be prperly executed it almost needs to be a plantation style like in caly or like from the movie, which obviously doesn't mix with colonial. It will also be off the beaten path so to speak with a swampy front yard with weeping willows and the works. One of my favorite ideas, has much potential.

I also want some kind of boat for the bay, but 2 problems, what kinda boat would it be and where would it go?

More to come. Adventureland is next...

 

[stitch001]

That sounds really cool. for where you could put it, maybe some where in middle armerica. like Wyoming, or maybe even Colorado, but that might be to close to DL. I like the fact that its all unique. Way to go on that. for your boats, maybe have one like a River boat and make it a resutrant. and "dock" it off to the side so it dosn't intrupt the view of the bay. and mybe the other boat could be like the river boats in the parks now where they travle around the bay, but you could add a show on the boat.

And your "haunted Mantion" idea. sounds amazing! yeah so much of the era your going for. but its close, what only like 100 years. comeon that nothing. . YOu could put it in a bulding and hide the bulding with the weeping willows and swamp and use more of a peirod bulding for a facade. or you could do the movie bulding and then not really put a timeframe on the whole bay and make it more of a celebration of American past. Eather way it sounds like this park is going to rock!

YAY YOU!

 

[martinthesparta]

Thanks for the imput and compliments stitch! You pumped me up, gotta add some more tonight.

Adventureland:

The vibe and inspiration is a little different here. Less africa and asia and more polynesian and south american in orgin. Here's the list of attractions as it stands:

-Fire Mountain (name may change)- Not themed to atlantis like the original design and more polynesian in orgin. I'm debating on doing and inverted water coaster. The beginning of the ride would be a slow boat ride on the culture, legends, and mythology (which may or may not take place in the mountain itself), and an encounter with the volcano god would lead to the inverted coaster part. It would be cool if you entered the mouth of the volcano god and the river ends and falls into a lake of lava, so it would look like you are gonna fall in the lava, but it then converts to the inverted coaster part.

-Haunted temple show (need name)- Special effects show like posidion's fury (but hopefully better) with a haunted jungle temple theme. Still need to work this one out.

-The jungle cruise- Just wouldn't be magic kingdom without the jungle cruise with updated effects of course and added excitement. Not quite as calm but still stupidly funny and enjoyable for the whole family, just on a more sophisticated level. Gotta work this out too

-Tiki Lounge- Not a show but a juice bar featuring the tiki birds. Tiki birds is pretty outdated and new management is pretty lame so instead of having it as an attraction on it's own allow people to be entertained as they eat and drink.

Other ideas:

- Swiss family tree house
- Stage for polynesian dancing and exhibition
- Pirates reference somewhere whether a shop, restaurant, or just scenary
- Luau

Frontierland will be in the next update...

 

[martinthesparta]

Come on people, where you at??!! Want some input on my ideas and other possibilities. If you think it sucks say so and why, if not tell me that too. Can use all the help and suggestions I can get. Anyways, this is Frontierland:

-Western River expedition- Think this speaks for itself. For those who don't know waht this is, it's like POTC but with cowboys.

-Big Thunder Falls- My replacement for BTMR. Raft ride. Simular scenary as BTMR, probally take some ideas from the original nature's wonderland in caly. Nice drop at the end like Kali

-Mystery lodge type show- Native american based show like the one at Knott's and the one proposed for Westcot. Need help on this one.

Other ideas: Here are just some other ideas I had for this area that I have not as of yet included but could.

-CBJ
-Geyser ride- Proposed idea, like TOT but shoots you up
-BTMR- Always room for that if needed, but might be repetative with BTF
-Discovery Island/Nature's Wonderland- Don't know which name, scenic walking trails, parts like tom sawyer
-Valley of the Dinosaurs- Blast in gold mine leads to discovery of hidden prehistoric environment under ground, dark ride with presentation style simular to UOE

Next post is fantasyland

 

[FigmentJedi]

I don't quite like the roller coaster haunted mansion, though the rest of the ideas are pretty good.

 

[stitch001]

Hey! once agein wow!

Adventureland. Im really intrestred in fire Island. like story wise and like maybe any hidden surprises, Im kinda hopeing for alteast a "room" with lava. but what ever flots your boat, will be just be cool. Im not really wild about the haunted temple show. but I'll wait to see more of what your thinking cuaes it may just be Im not quite getting it. Tiki lounge, awesome idea! that would be really cool, kida like rainforst cafe but with the tiki birds. good job on that.

Fronteirland. Western river exploration, I say name change is needed. but If Im thinking on the right lines, it shows a comical and fun look at cowboys and the west, they were going to put it into WDW. but didn't. that sounds cool. Thunder Mt FAlls. that is going to need to be wild, and crazy, manily cause its got thunder mt. in the name so its what people expect. and I love the idea haveing a huge drop at the end. Im also intrested in some of the possible rides. they have some interseting possibliltyes with them.

Other than that, awesome job. keep up the cool stuff.

 

[martinthesparta]

Once I have the story and general concept and effects thought out, I think you'll be a little more positive on the haunted temple attraction. It is one of those things that could suck if done wrong, but be great and provide needed variety if done right. Ok, on to fantasy land, and remember, all the edges will be smoothed out later, with lots of help from great minds of course:

-Splash Mountain- Couldn't leave this out either. Exterior will be simular to TDL. Imput on which version to use would be nice

-Peter Pan's Flight- Extended version

-Toad's wild ride- Kiddie EMV, Iknow others have come up with this idea as well, but trust me, I'm not copying, have had this idea quite a while myself, call it great minds think a like.

-20k Leagues- TDS clone

-Philharmagic

-Emerald City Castle- Quite a bold idea, don't know how to fit the arcitecture and clashing attraction themes, but I'm sure there's a way

-Voyage of the Little Mermaid- Dark ride like the proposed idea

A lot is up in the air with this area, here are some other thoughts:

-Arabian Nights- Aladdin dark ride on magic carpets, screen technology for lava scene

-tea cups, maybe variation

-dumbo, maybe variation

-sky ride themed to marry poppins where the vehicles are umbrellas

-caroseul with some theme, maybe horses of different colors

-return to oz ride in castle

-maybe a stage show

-some kind of play area like mermaid or 1000 acre wood

Tommorrowland later...

 

[FigmentDream]

I think you will find if you expand upon your ideas you will get more input. It's kinda hard to really say anything about your ideas when you give one sentence or less about them.

At face value I could come up with a few suggestions although they are rather weak considering I don't have much to go on:

1) Perhaps name your "Liberty Square" area Boston Harbor or Liberty Harbor. With the latter I think you could leave things the way you have them and it could be a more general colonial sea port. The first would tie in to Boston but still have many colonial aspects as this would be the romanticized location for the boson tea party and such while also opening up other opportunities.

2)Be careful of the "where's the pirate ride?" syndrome. Disney clones rides because certain rides become synonymous with the Disney name. For instance, in reference to the initial syndrome, when the Magic Kingdom opened an overwhelming number of people wanted to go on the "Pirate Ride" which was not there and actually was not even being planned. Disney seems to have learned from this mistake (maybe too well). The point of is then I would be carefully about removing (essentially) the HM, I know it would still be there, but coasterizing it would for many make it another ride and not what they expected.

Other than that you would really need to expound on what you have before I could say anymore

 

[Jekyll Baker]

Not too bad so far, just a couple of ideas, thoughts, etc -

-> Are your Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Falls, Fire Moutain too similar or too many water rides? (I personally shy away from most water rides - I don't like to walk around the park drenched)

-> For your Liberty Square/Bay/Harbor, you want a colonial seaside town setting, but also want a plantation-style setting for your Haunted Mansion - try a setting like colonial Savannah or Charleston. The New England settings are too overused, and here in the South, we already have the swamps, marshes, moss-covered oaks, colonial streets and squares, ghosts, etc.

-> Haunted Mansion as a roller coaster may be too fast to appreciate the necessary environment. But I'd be wary of making it a boat ride (a la PotC) because it might remind me of 6 Flags over Georgia's Monster Plantation (if it even still exists)

-> Emerald City??

-> I love your ideas for Adventureland. Definately need the volcano ride. And I like the Tiki Lounge - would the AA's actually interact with the guests? Could be fun.

All in all, good job! I currently am thinking of my own Disney park - maybe I'll post something on it in a couple weeks.

 

[imagineer boy]

20k does not belong in Fantaseyland. Its based off of Science Fiction and is way out of place ( like I thought for the WDW version ) in Fantaseyland. If you want it, put it in Tomorrowland where it really should belong.

I'm not to wild about the Emerald City castle idea either. If you want a castle, base it off of ones from Disney movies. It would just seem more MGM-esque than disney.

I also think that the Haunted Mansion shouldn't be a coaster. Other than that, the rest of your ideas sound quite promising.

 

[martinthesparta]

I love all the imput, I'll get to each one at a time.

1) Perhaps name your "Liberty Square" area Boston Harbor or Liberty Harbor. With the latter I think you could leave things the way you have them and it could be a more general colonial sea port. The first would tie in to Boston but still have many colonial aspects as this would be the romanticized location for the boson tea party and such while also opening up other opportunities.

2)Be careful of the "where's the pirate ride?" syndrome. Disney clones rides because certain rides become synonymous with the Disney name. For instance, in reference to the initial syndrome, when the Magic Kingdom opened an overwhelming number of people wanted to go on the "Pirate Ride" which was not there and actually was not even being planned. Disney seems to have learned from this mistake (maybe too well). The point of is then I would be carefully about removing (essentially) the HM, I know it would still be there, but coasterizing it would for many make it another ride and not what they expected.

1) I'm not too into the boston idea, but Liberty Harbour might be good.

2) I know there's a risk with that, but consider it a nessisary element for my experiment. And besides, if it is somewhere in the US (more than likely smack dab in the middle) then providing a new experience is eccential in not only attracting guests to the new park, but insuring they will still visit the old ones. It's one thing when you got a park on each coast, it's another thing when you make a new park which is closer and provides all the same experiences. YOu see what I'm trying to say? I'm not sure if I even do... Besides, adventureland is already packed and I have too many water based attractions as it is.

 

[martinthesparta]

Not too bad so far, just a couple of ideas, thoughts, etc -

-> Are your Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Falls, Fire Moutain too similar or too many water rides? (I personally shy away from most water rides - I don't like to walk around the park drenched)

-> For your Liberty Square/Bay/Harbor, you want a colonial seaside town setting, but also want a plantation-style setting for your Haunted Mansion - try a setting like colonial Savannah or Charleston. The New England settings are too overused, and here in the South, we already have the swamps, marshes, moss-covered oaks, colonial streets and squares, ghosts, etc.

-> Haunted Mansion as a roller coaster may be too fast to appreciate the necessary environment. But I'd be wary of making it a boat ride (a la PotC) because it might remind me of 6 Flags over Georgia's Monster Plantation (if it even still exists)

-> Emerald City??

-> I love your ideas for Adventureland. Definately need the volcano ride. And I like the Tiki Lounge - would the AA's actually interact with the guests? Could be fun.

All in all, good job! I currently am thinking of my own Disney park - maybe I'll post something on it in a couple weeks.

1) Only the first part of fire mountain would be a brief, sudate boat ride where you don't get wet at all, splash mountain you don't get that wet on anyways, but big thunder you would get drenched. Yeah, I know, way too many water based rides, what can I say, I love um.

2) I LOVE IT!!! Wonderful idea! Do you know where on the net I can get some good pics to get an idea of what I'm working with?

3)Not sure if you miss understood, no haunted mansion boat ride, american journeys in liberty harbour is the boat ride. And maybe I should "expound" on my idea a little. It's more like a dark ride/coaster hybrid than a full out coaster, should have been more specific on that. Rocket rod tech would probally work best for this to slow down and speed up when nessisary. Don't think of it as a roller coaster through the haunted mansion but a totally new experience with simular themes. I'm thinkin the main coaster part would be in the cemetary scene and then through the cript. Give me time to work this out and I promise you'll all like.

4)I know. I just wanted something new and exotic. If I can't get it to mesh I'll definistrate the idea, but give that time too.

5)I was just thinking they would sing the songs from the original show, but interaction is quite a nice idea. They could poke fun at the guests like they do eachother

Yes, please post your ideas, it'll be interesting to see what you come up with.

 

[martinthesparta]

20k does not belong in Fantaseyland. Its based off of Science Fiction and is way out of place ( like I thought for the WDW version ) in Fantaseyland. If you want it, put it in Tomorrowland where it really should belong.

I'm not to wild about the Emerald City castle idea either. If you want a castle, base it off of ones from Disney movies. It would just seem more MGM-esque than disney.

I also think that the Haunted Mansion shouldn't be a coaster. Other than that, the rest of your ideas sound quite promising.

1) I dunno, I thought it was a nice contrast to the area. You know, like african, asian, south american, carribean and arabian influences all in one land, or tom sawyer and singing rabits and bears in the frontier, or buzz and COP in one area. See what I mean, but considering all of the varying themes I have there all ready, you may be right. It could always go in a subland like discovery bay or something, all I know is it has to be there.

2) I was thinking of the return to OZ version which is a disney movie. I just wanted something unique is all, but like I said if I can't make it work it will go, promise

3) See previous post for responce

Thankyou to imagineer boy and all of the current participants. Love hearing from you guys. Your input is invaluable And I'll refine my ideas as we go. Could use a little help with the geography of it all though. Want it to look really different. And shops and restaurants too I need help with like names, theme if any and where to put it.

 

[stitch001]

I have to say this is sounding really cool. Splash mt., I'de come up with a new version, use Song of the south, but get a differnt story going.

I for one like the emreald city theme. it could give Dinsey a perfect opp. to go back into classic disney musical cartoons, and do something with the Wiz, or even Wicked. Its got new and exciting ideas and be a fresh look at fantasy land. Being able to brake the mold for it, and set a new standered with the idea of having an emerald city right infront of you. Great idea on that!

I was thinking of a Little mermaid ride Idea. so Im really intrested in what you have instore for that.

as for 20k, I can see who you would want to put it there. cuase technecly it dose have a fanticy feel to it and that it dose make a nice contrast to the other more playfull rides. But I don't know if it fits in the park at all. It just dosn't seem to have the feel and excitement the other attrations do. But if you want to keep it in, maybe go more with like a 3-D simulater version. and have a wild story line where the guests hit rough water, and then maybe have the octopus chace the ship and attack it. but maybe more kid friendly...:lookaroun

Otherwise, it sounds like a great addition to the park.

 

[FigmentDream]

Savannah or Charleston.

Those are good ideas, been to both those cities they are beautiful

Try goggle searching both of those cities on Goggle under the "image search" feature and I am sure you will pull up some stuff for you to work with

I can understand the need for uniqueness, but really you need to have a balance. Even if it is in the middle, that doesn't nullify the expectancy. Provide totally new things, but keep the classics too even if you improve on them (but not change them)

****Edit****

Also forgot to note that this whole expectancy thing is due to the building of a "Disneyland/MK" style park. If you really wanted to do something new, than really do it. Use a totally new structure for a park, then that way guests would not be expecting any classics from either of the coasts.

The problem is if guests perceive this park as a central version of the crown jewel's of the two coastal resorts, the guests would be greatly disappointed when the realize that it is not.

If you want to do something different than, really go all the way and do whole new park concept, it can be like the still be general lands around a central icon, but just make them new lands and a new icon (you've kinda done this already with the whole Oz thing). Or on the other hand keep with what you have but put more focus on keeping a good balance of classics to new rides.


(FYI the route I went with my Texas resort was the whole new concept approach I have two parks Realms of Adventure and Fantasy Kingdom)

 

[martinthesparta]

I was thinking of a Little mermaid ride Idea. so Im really intrested in what you have instore for that.

as for 20k, I can see who you would want to put it there. cuase technecly it dose have a fanticy feel to it and that it dose make a nice contrast to the other more playfull rides. But I don't know if it fits in the park at all. It just dosn't seem to have the feel and excitement the other attrations do. But if you want to keep it in, maybe go more with like a 3-D simulater version. and have a wild story line where the guests hit rough water, and then maybe have the octopus chace the ship and attack it. but maybe more kid friendly...:lookaroun

Otherwise, it sounds like a great addition to the park.

I wouldn't mind getting your input on the little mermaid ride because all I really know is that I want one.

Well, I want 2ok somewhere. Now athat I think about it and that it has been brought to my attension, it probally doesn't fit in fantasyland, but it need it to brake up all the thrill rides. That's the other thing, I'm worried my park is too adult oriented. I need more kid friendly attractions I think, what's everybodies take on that?

Oh, and here are my ideas for tommorrow land, don't expect spectacular explainations though cause this is the land I have least thought out and really am not sure what to do with.

-Spacemountain- Probally have some form of it

-Astro orbitor- Might call it star jets

-Alien Encounter- Clone of florida version

-Tron 2.0 Light cycles- I think rocket rod technology would be best for this. It would start out in the encom labs from where you would be digitized. Not sure exactly the best way to do it, something like a bright light distracts you and the room spins to the other direction to reveal the tron world where you would then be directed toward the lobby of the light cycle arena as seen in the game and board your light cycle. Lots of black light tech would be used some animatronics and some screen technology for the ride portion, the ground would also make that noise when you step. The story is you are captured and forced on the game grid where you escape and make it back somehow.

Intergalactic zoo- Need new name, large animatronic ride with AA alien animals. You ride a tram like thing through the different environments to get a first hand look at species from other planets. Would LOVE it if someone wanted to design some creatures for me. Slightly inspired by the scene form the navigator.

Other thoughts

-Mission to Mars- Old show qualities, but M:S tech, might not fit the land and have too many thrill rides already.

-Timekeeper- need a nother show somewhere

-Buzz- or an interactive ride like it without buzz, but better of course either way

all I got on that for now, I'm gonna start working on each attraction one at a time, and anyone who wants to help is welcome. Or if you have ideas or suggestions for any of them feel free.

EDIT***

THought of a better idea for the digitizing part of tron, everybody sits in seats in a room with special glasses on which you can see through until you are digitized and it shows all the flashing lights and such, at which time the room rotates to the oposite direct and by the time you are done being digitized you are in the tron world.

 

[martinthesparta]

Those are good ideas, been to both those cities they are beautiful

Try goggle searching both of those cities on Goggle under the "image search" feature and I am sure you will pull up some stuff for you to work with

I can understand the need for uniqueness, but really you need to have a balance. Even if it is in the middle, that doesn't nullify the expectancy. Provide totally new things, but keep the classics too even if you improve on them (but not change them)

****Edit****

Also forgot to note that this whole expectancy thing is due to the building of a "Disneyland/MK" style park. If you really wanted to do something new, than really do it. Use a totally new structure for a park, then that way guests would not be expecting any classics from either of the coasts.

The problem is if guests perceive this park as a central version of the crown jewel's of the two coastal resorts, the guests would be greatly disappointed when the realize that it is not.

If you want to do something different than, really go all the way and do whole new park concept, it can be like the still be general lands around a central icon, but just make them new lands and a new icon (you've kinda done this already with the whole Oz thing). Or on the other hand keep with what you have but put more focus on keeping a good balance of classics to new rides.


(FYI the route I went with my Texas resort was the whole new concept approach I have two parks Realms of Adventure and Fantasy Kingdom)

Trust me, I do see what you are saying and it makes a lot of sense. I do have some balance with classics like jungle cruise, splash mountain, tiki birds, peter pan, space mountain ect. I do also understand that many would trade all those in for pirates and haunted mansion. My idea too though is that atractions like fire mountain and WRE will attract attension for their notability atleast as highly publicized unbuilt attractions. And if the park is built in the proper location, those who were making trips to WDW or CDL can still do so to get their fix of other attractions if so desired and still go to the new park which could increase total attendance instead taking away from one or the other.

However, I'm not closed to the idea of not calling it Magic Kingdom, changing the names of the lands and/or tinkering with the layout of the park. Simple name and layout changes may be all it takes to instill the idea that this is a different park and nulify the expectancey factor. I'm just pretty set on this idea and want to do whatever I can to keep it fairly intact.

What's your take on that cause you seem to know what you are talking about better than I do.

Ohhh, and what about putting it in Louisville, KY?

 

[FigmentDream]

However, I'm not closed to the idea of not calling it Magic Kingdom, changing the names of the lands and/or tinkering with the layout of the park. Simple name and layout changes may be all it takes to instill the idea that this is a different park and nulify the expectancey factor. I'm just pretty set on this idea and want to do whatever I can to keep it fairly intact.

What's your take on that cause you seem to know what you are talking about better than I do.

Ohhh, and what about putting it in Louisville, KY?

You do seem to be keeping more classics than I thought you were, only leaving out Pirates and HM. Still though I think for all reality purposes if you would try to put a different image on the park (monikers/layout and such)
that it would definitely be beneficial for sure.

As for Louisville, as close to Imaginarya :lookaroun ..that would be, I think you need to go more south. Americans are used to Disney parks that stay open in the full all year round. While you could attempt to keep a park open n the colder months as they do in Europe and Tokyo I really think the American amusement culture would not take to it.

Fairly much as I have determined the only place for a third domestic park would be the Lone Star State. Much like California with Disneyland, Texas itself could sustain a whole park resort. There would need to be a bit of an edge on the park, or one of the parks in the case of two, as the competition would be the Six Flags and other such parks which currently thrive in Texas.

Attendance wise it could be argued that this would hurt WDW, however economically it would not. The idea being that what ever money Texans spend in travel to get to Florida could easily be converted into a second trip to their much closer resort. Thus in the eyes of Disney this would be an increase in revenues. Also WDW has globally become recognized as the crown Jewel of themeparks, so a third domestic park would not defer international attendance, only the domestic target market (which is the point anyways)

And more than likely if done uniquely enough it would start a cross-trade with the other two coastal resorts. This would also result from the cultural integration of WDW, that even in the areas possibly closer to a Texas resort, people will still know of WDW and want to go there, plus this new possibly closer resort.

Anyways that is my opinion, feel free to disagree

 

[stitch001]

I wouldn't mind getting your input on the little mermaid ride because all I really know is that I want one.

You know im in the same boat as you. I think a Little mermaid ride would rock major socks, but what to put in and what to leave out there is so much that could be put in. But for my version so far I have that its going to be set up like the classic rides of Pinocio, and Alice from DL. but well with more tecnology and really cool water effects, cause hey its underwater.

Your intregalactic zoo would be so much fun. but I think it would work just as well if you 86ed the trams and had it set up like a petting zoo, and aloud the guest to interact with these "animals" I know that the tecnology is growing so much that disney has an AA that walks around the park and interacts with the guest. You could do that but keep it confined to one area. For insperation on things to put in your zoo, take a look at Lilo and stich. the movie and the show has Aleains that could work very well because they are unique and kid friendly.

Tron 2.0- the pre show sounds amazing and I think that its perfect. Im still a little confued about the glasses. Is there going to be a 3d show part that the glasses will be used for, or is it just so that you could move the room around? cuase there is the whole HM idea that you could do, useing an emevator. that way you could do whatever you wanted for the pre show. make the special effects look amazing. and then no one would know that they realy moved anywere. and you wouldn't need the glasses anymore.

Other than that, this park really is starting shape into one sweet park. Kaep it up

 

[martinthesparta]

You do seem to be keeping more classics than I thought you were, only leaving out Pirates and HM. Still though I think for all reality purposes if you would try to put a different image on the park (monikers/layout and such)
that it would definitely be beneficial for sure.

As for Louisville, as close to Imaginarya :lookaroun ..that would be, I think you need to go more south. Americans are used to Disney parks that stay open in the full all year round. While you could attempt to keep a park open n the colder months as they do in Europe and Tokyo I really think the American amusement culture would not take to it.

Fairly much as I have determined the only place for a third domestic park would be the Lone Star State. Much like California with Disneyland, Texas itself could sustain a whole park resort. There would need to be a bit of an edge on the park, or one of the parks in the case of two, as the competition would be the Six Flags and other such parks which currently thrive in Texas.

Attendance wise it could be argued that this would hurt WDW, however economically it would not. The idea being that what ever money Texans spend in travel to get to Florida could easily be converted into a second trip to their much closer resort. Thus in the eyes of Disney this would be an increase in revenues. Also WDW has globally become recognized as the crown Jewel of themeparks, so a third domestic park would not defer international attendance, only the domestic target market (which is the point anyways)

And more than likely if done uniquely enough it would start a cross-trade with the other two coastal resorts. This would also result from the cultural integration of WDW, that even in the areas possibly closer to a Texas resort, people will still know of WDW and want to go there, plus this new possibly closer resort.

Anyways that is my opinion, feel free to disagree

You are pretty much right on the money. Texas does seem like the best place, probally around san antonio or houston. I hate that it's not really an original idea, but it does make sense.

Thanks for the input buddy