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Sharkreef11
Well-Known Member
I think what you are failing to understand is that, whether positive or negative, you have absolutely pounded your opinions in about DVC. You think that you are just creating "good" discussion but it really has gone beyond that. You are beating that dead horse to a pulp! I don't know what more you can possible say honestly, or how in the world, you think that what you are doing is enjoyable. Don't you ever get to a point where your thinking, "maybe I should take a break from this whole DVC thing and just give it a rest???" I mean, buy, don't buy, rent, don't rent, resale, no resale, maintenance fees etc etc. I think anyone on the boards are ready to rip their hair out if they see you commenting in a DVC thread. Yes they can just ignore it sure. But you need to change the record. You have stated your opinion. Everyone knows your opinion. Just let it rest. Plus whether you have "intended" to or not, you have offended some people who are DVC members. It is SO clear by the constant backlash you always get on these DVC threads. Nobody will ever change your mind than you in regards to DVC. You can do whatever you want obviously. But just try to listen to reason and hear that you and DVC is flat out overwhelming and tiring. It is not a discussion anymore. No it's not because you post things that sometimes are negative. People clearly don't expect sunshine and rainbows. Give people more credit than that, but there is certainly a line there that you eventually need to recognize. When I was a child, my parents would always say to me, if we were recording you and could play back how you are acting, I don't think you would continue acting this way. Or you might feel kind of foolish. I have a feeling that if you were able to go through every DVC thread you've posted in, read through them, you might just think "hey, maybe I could have given it a rest quite a while ago."
Maybe you're right. Lord knows, I feel that way about some posters and the subjects they seem to beat endlessly to death.
My only question is, why don't you just do with me what I do with them? Ignore them. Simple enough.
My only question is, why don't you just do with me what I do with them? Ignore them. Simple enough.
DVCOwner
A Long Time DVC Member
Captainkidd, I know that you will say this is not a fact, but from reading your post you seem to have a personnel hate of all things DVC. I am a DVC owner, but I have post some problems that I have with management on this site. But when it comes to you I think that you look for anything and everything to complain about. You do not do you reseach (not knowing about DVC discounts, not knowing all locations are not priced the same, not really understand how maintenance funding works, etc.) Just find an issue and beat you drum till you find another issue.
gy and Sharkreff11 are right on when they talk about the way you are. We all admit that DVC is not for everyone and maybe just for a few of us Disney World nut cases.
Answer me this questions: What happen that made you want to attack everything DVC? There must be something!
gy and Sharkreff11 are right on when they talk about the way you are. We all admit that DVC is not for everyone and maybe just for a few of us Disney World nut cases.
Answer me this questions: What happen that made you want to attack everything DVC? There must be something!
Yes, absolutely correct. Which is why I've done the DVC Tour 5 times, spent countless hours with sales reps and accountants going over the numbers, and that's why I've stayed in DVC resorts 4 times now. That's also why I've been working with the Timeshare Store for the past few months to try and find the perfect situation for me to buy into. I HATE IT!!!!
Funfy
Active Member
And you can say the things we say are lame, wrong and not defendable-but somehow that is not rude. But, when we defend our decision, you get very defensive and call everyone rude and you have a right to your opinion.
While this is true, I believe we have all GOT your opinion over and over again. The "discussions" you so love are 95% of the time totally negative or questioning how someone could possibly do this or why aren't you mad-you are coming across as in instigator and quite frankly appearing as a case of sour grapes.
I am sure you are actually a nice person. However, as we tell our kids, it is not always what you are saying it is your tone. Take a breather, leave DVC alone for awhile. If I figured out I can't afford/justify the cost of the Lexus, I am going to stop going into the dealership and looking at them. Also, I am going to stop telling Lexus owners they are getting ripped off.
While this is true, I believe we have all GOT your opinion over and over again. The "discussions" you so love are 95% of the time totally negative or questioning how someone could possibly do this or why aren't you mad-you are coming across as in instigator and quite frankly appearing as a case of sour grapes.
I am sure you are actually a nice person. However, as we tell our kids, it is not always what you are saying it is your tone. Take a breather, leave DVC alone for awhile. If I figured out I can't afford/justify the cost of the Lexus, I am going to stop going into the dealership and looking at them. Also, I am going to stop telling Lexus owners they are getting ripped off.
Not sure why you're lumping yourself into that category. I was speaking about 1 particular poster.
I don't get defensive when you defend your decision. Furthermore, why would you need to defend your decision to some stranger on the internet? I'm nobody. I'm not in the IRS or the FBI. Who cares what I think? It's just a message board.
Funfy
Active Member
Because you called something I said lame and you have flamed my posts frequently. And you ask DVC owners why/how they can justify purchases/decisions and then you tell us we are wrong.
You are able to dish it out, but, are not able to take it. Maybe you should discuss the fact that everyone is picking on you on the boards with your wife-maybe there is insight there that would be helpful.
Sharkreef11
Well-Known Member
Yeah that certainly is an option. I just have come to enjoy the threads over the past year and particularly the DVC threads. We bought into DVC back in 2004 and it has made it possible for my family and I to go to our favorite place in the world every year. It makes sense FOR us. So when I go into the DVC threads, I see a lot of your posts and think that maybe you just don't realize how you are coming across.
I think that at the point your at, you should focus on just discussing DVC with your family. Going on a forum and discussing with a bunch of strangers isn't going to help anything. (Well there are cases where quick questions can be answered, but it clearly hasn't been much help to you yet.) Your DVC answers are with your finances and family. Going on here and taking it to the extreme that you have, only creates frustration amongst others. Like I previously said, you can do whatever you want obviously. Just a helpful tip that maybe there are better ways to go about discussing DVC for you.
Kidd, stop beating the horse. Numbers will probably never add up for you on DVC. Life isn't always about rational thinking when making big purchases - RVs, boats, luxury cars, etc. If you can afford DVC and enjoy the perks, buy in and have some fun.
If I ran the numbers on everything I spent money on, I'd never go to the movies or out to eat (both can really add up to a substantial sum over a couple years). Heck, it cost me $50 to take the famliy to a movie that I can own a month later for $20.
Financial planning - save for the future, but also enjoy the ride called life.
If I ran the numbers on everything I spent money on, I'd never go to the movies or out to eat (both can really add up to a substantial sum over a couple years). Heck, it cost me $50 to take the famliy to a movie that I can own a month later for $20.
Financial planning - save for the future, but also enjoy the ride called life.
I agree with what Sharkreef said. His post made sense. Sorry, but yours doesn't. When have I ever asked owners to justify their purchase and then told them they were wrong? That's just complete nonsense.
"Everyone" isn't picking on me. There are about 3 or 4 people on this thread that have an issue with me, and they're stating their opinions. Personally, I just think the way some of them are doing it is uncalled for, but they're not breaking any forum rules, so whatever. I'm not dishing anything out. I stand by my comments, but I don't resort to insulting people. For the record, the amount of which I post on this specific forum is very small compared to the rest of the board. Call me crazy, but maybe some of the owners themselves are just a tiny bit defensive.
But again, who cares what I think? I wear a pack when I'm in WDW because it's convenient for me. Some people laugh and make snide remarks. I could care less. It works for me, and that's all that matters to me.
Parents, I think you're dead on. I know my frustrations seep out onto this board. As others have said, maybe I just need to let it go. But when you go to Disney as often as I do, see so many people that are DVC members, and read here as often as I do, and read about how members love the program, I guess it makes me jealous. I just can't figure out why it won't work for me. Back in the early days when I first started looking into DVC, I knew it didn't work because we always stayed at Value Resorts. I was "brought up", if you will, to believe, if you stay at Deluxe Resorts, it's an easy decision and a no brainer. The fact that it hasn't been that way for me, as I said, is very frustrating.
But for the record, that's not why I started this thread. I started it because I was bothered by reading some of those reviews. That's all.
Sorry to keep rambling. I just find it so ridiculous when people claim I hate DVC. It's just the opposite. I've been driving myself (and apparently a few others) crazy trying to make it work for me and my family. I wouldn't spend so much time on something I "hate". I truly feel like there's just got to be something that I'm either adding or not adding correctly.
But for the record, that's not why I started this thread. I started it because I was bothered by reading some of those reviews. That's all.
Sorry to keep rambling. I just find it so ridiculous when people claim I hate DVC. It's just the opposite. I've been driving myself (and apparently a few others) crazy trying to make it work for me and my family. I wouldn't spend so much time on something I "hate". I truly feel like there's just got to be something that I'm either adding or not adding correctly.
DVCOwner
A Long Time DVC Member
Let's see, if I had to make financial sense for me I would not own a lake house, a boat, my pickup truck, my seats on the 50 yard line at my college field (PSLs), a camper, DVC or would never have had two great kids, a dog, and ever take a vacation. Sometimes you just do things that are right for you.
Funfy
Active Member
But again, who cares what I think? I wear a pack when I'm in WDW because it's convenient for me. Some people laugh and make snide remarks. I could care less. It works for me, and that's all that matters to me.[/quote]
Actually, I am with you on the pack. Although mine has switched to an over the shoulder flat thingy!
I wish DVC numbers would work for you-it may just have to boil down to can you/do you want to afford it. When we bought our pontoon boat, we will never catch enough fish to justify that purchase-but we knew we would have years of fun and enjoyment out of it and we could afford it. It was really that simple.
Actually, I am with you on the pack. Although mine has switched to an over the shoulder flat thingy!
I wish DVC numbers would work for you-it may just have to boil down to can you/do you want to afford it. When we bought our pontoon boat, we will never catch enough fish to justify that purchase-but we knew we would have years of fun and enjoyment out of it and we could afford it. It was really that simple.
flynnibus
Premium Member
You guys keep going this way - but it's completely faulty logic. He's not chosing between going to Disney world or not.. he's chosing between methods for HOW TO PAY FOR IT.
Might as well be talking about paying cash vs using credit cards - not, eating out vs eating in.
10 years ago, I used to think that way. That was before getting married and having 3 kids. Now, I have to find that balancing act between having the things that don't always make sense, and making sure my kids get everything they want (and need.)
Actually, I am with you on the pack. Although mine has switched to an over the shoulder flat thingy!
I'm seriously thinking of starting a club for people that wear packs. I don't get the flack they take, especially if you're a guy. OK, if you're a woman, you have the option of bringing your pocket book, but who wants to lug that around a theme park? A pack makes the most sense. Who wants to walk around with money, room keys, park tickets, cell phones, sunscreen, etc in their pockets?
A bit of history on the much maligned, but ever useful pack:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_pack
I'm seriously thinking of starting a club for people that wear packs. I don't get the flack they take, especially if you're a guy. OK, if you're a woman, you have the option of bringing your pocket book, but who wants to lug that around a theme park? A pack makes the most sense. Who wants to walk around with money, room keys, park tickets, cell phones, sunscreen, etc in their pockets?
A bit of history on the much maligned, but ever useful pack:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_pack
DVCOwner
A Long Time DVC Member
I tell you its the cost of those kids; but now that I have grands, I love taking them to WDW.
Funfy
Active Member
I also wear one Christmas shopping/any large shopping trip and anywhere I don't want a purse knocking things over-getting in the way. Basically any hands free location.
My husband wears one at Disney also-doesn't threaten his manhood one bit. He has a grumpy one and throws in 2-3 bottles of frozen water every morning too.
One quick plus for DVC that has nothing to do with cost/savings etc. I know in another post you said you had three kids. If they aren't all the same gender, I would recommend DVC on that alone for when they get older. You will need the space. They don't generally want to be in the same room together and two or more TV's is always helpful. My girl and boy are 21 and 17 and we have been members since 2003. It makes a huge difference.