Rumor MaigcBands at DL?

[Phroobar]

I'm just having an issue spending money on accessories for this. I did for the first type of Magic Bands and they were used once before they changed the band and I couldn't use them anymore. This is just me I'd rather spend the money on something else other than to make something I don't want to wear livable. I'm sure i'm in the tiny minority.

The Great Wolf Lodge down the street from Disneyland uses RF wristbands that they give you for free that includes your credit card and room key on it. This way you don't need your wallet when down at the waterpark. It's also great for skimming credit cards via RF on your phone.

 

[NormC]

Skimming the MB would be almost pointless because no data is stored on them and you need a PIN to make purchases with them.

 

[mary2013]

I am not a fan of magic bands in general. I hate wearing a rubber bracelet on my wrist in the heat. I don't even wear a watch. Yes I have a hotel card to get in/out of the hotel, but otherwise everything is on my phone. I quite enjoy it

I've never used a magic band. I used my park ticket for fast pass.

 

[Jedi Stitch]

Wasn't the MB created and done before everybody had a smart phone? WDW is the size of San Francisco so you needed a universal system park wide for the guests. They also had all the land and space to make the line and que changes for such. This was the Billion dollar gamble for Disney back then. DLR is small. It would be interesting to MB DLR, but then most guests stay off property, and smart phones are now the norm, even for a track phone.

 

[Touchdown]

The line to enter FP at DL can border on insane and clogs up pathways, WDW does not have that problem despite being mostly tourists, first timers and many who don’t speak English. That’s because even when done correctly cell phones take longer to interact with the podium then MBs do. I would welcome MBs at DL, it would also mean that the small subset of Premier Passholders wouldn’t have to worry about wondering if their pass is going to work on the opposite coast from where they bought the pass.

 

[Phroobar]

Wasn't the MB created and done before everybody had a smart phone? WDW is the size of San Francisco so you needed a universal system park wide for the guests. They also had all the land and space to make the line and que changes for such. This was the Billion dollar gamble for Disney back then. DLR is small. It would be interesting to MB DLR, but then most guests stay off property, and smart phones are now the norm, even for a track phone.

Magic Bands were created in 2013. The iphone 5 didn't have RFC until much later. Android phones did though. The iphone had 45% of the market share in 2013. In 2019, the iphone has 11% of the market share. RFC is pretty common in smart phones now.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-lag...al-smartphone-market-says-strategy-analytics/

 

[RollerCoaster]

I actually feel like they should implement this kiosk approach WDW has to Disneyland, having about 5 or 6 kiosks in the park that you can make any Fastpass for. But then again, there will be no reason for paid MaxPass.

5 or 6 kiosks? They would literally need a hundred or more of them in Disneyland. The reason why there aren't that many in Walt Disney World is because the majority of all FP reservations are made in advance.

Also, we don't want the kiosks for Disneyland. One of the controls on FP is the fact that guests have to physically walk to the attraction to obtain one unless they use MaxPass. While many use MaxPass, the majority do not.

 

[RollerCoaster]

The Great Wolf Lodge down the street from Disneyland uses RF wristbands that they give you for free that includes your credit card and room key on it. This way you don't need your wallet when down at the waterpark. It's also great for skimming credit cards via RF on your phone.

Do you really think the designers of cashless payment systems are stupid enough to store the credit card number unencrypted on the band? They can, but would they be that reckless?

Many implementations only store a unique serial number that is then associated with an identity elsewhere. The credit card information would be stored off the band and associated with that identity. When a transaction at the POS happens, it scans the serial number of the band and then queries for the identity and credit card that is associated with the band serial number. That's much more secure.

 

[Phroobar]

Data breaches happen all the time. You would be surprised what isn't encrypted. See Target. An passive RF signal could be skimmed and spoofed. Using public wifi without a VPN is even worst. Tens of thousands do it every day at WDW and their phones could easily be under attack without leaving a trace. Even a public charging ports can suck data or install software without the user knowing.

 

[rk03221]

I think Disney knows that the fp+ system has failed at wdw, and I know it has because I worked attractions there and it made the lines way worse. Also when the system goes down so do the main entrances at the parks and that means losing money. It’s a real sh*t system, I really hope they don’t bring that to DL but i feel like they would’ve by now if they were going to. I also think it’s unfair how people can make their fp selections months in advance like premier AP and hotel guests. A lot of fp wouldn’t even get used because people would reserve them and then not use them when it could go to someone else

 

[Pam Hates Penguins]

Magic Bands were created in 2013. The iphone 5 didn't have RFC until much later. Android phones did though. The iphone had 45% of the market share in 2013. In 2019, the iphone has 11% of the market share. RFC is pretty common in smart phones now.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-lag...al-smartphone-market-says-strategy-analytics/

Yes, they were created in 2013. Though I don't know if they were officially released that year. I do remember Disney testing their bands on guests in the summer of 2013 when I visited.

 

[RollerCoaster]

Also when the system goes down so do the main entrances at the parks and that means losing money.

This is a problem at almost any theme park that uses technology for tickets, so it is definetely not unique to Disney.

 

[rk03221]

This is a problem at almost any theme park that uses technology for tickets, so it is definetely not unique to Disney.

No but it’s happened to Disney quite a few times. A month ago iirc, there was one before the park opened and guests had to wait and extra hour-two to get in the parks because the system was down, Disney is all about image and that’s terrible for them

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

The line to enter FP at DL can border on insane and clogs up pathways, WDW does not have that problem despite being mostly tourists, first timers and many who don’t speak English. That’s because even when done correctly cell phones take longer to interact with the podium then MBs do. I would welcome MBs at DL, it would also mean that the small subset of Premier Passholders wouldn’t have to worry about wondering if their pass is going to work on the opposite coast from where they bought the pass.

Guests are too dumb for the current Fastpass setup. Many visitors (many foreign visitors) don't understand how the system works, come back at the wrong time, come back without a reservation, come back with the reminder and not their park ticket to scan, have a Fastpass from a broken ride in the other park that isn't good for the park they're in but I guess just enter anyway, or have all the tickets on their app, while their phone conveniently crashes and suddenly a huge line forms behind their party of 16 while a CM tries to figure out just what is going on and a sea of people are suddenly rushing the door.

It's not that it's badly designed for frequent visitors, but for your average dumb guests, there will always be problems and backups at Fastpass entrances. So I guess it's badly designed.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The line to enter FP at DL can border on insane and clogs up pathways, WDW does not have that problem despite being mostly tourists, first timers and many who don’t speak English. That’s because even when done correctly cell phones take longer to interact with the podium then MBs do. I would welcome MBs at DL, it would also mean that the small subset of Premier Passholders wouldn’t have to worry about wondering if their pass is going to work on the opposite coast from where they bought the pass.

The are consistent issues with FastPass+ entrances backing up and spilling out into walkways at Walt Disney World. It is most definitely a problem there and usually considered worse.

 

[Touchdown]

The are consistent issues with FastPass+ entrances backing up and spilling out into walkways at Walt Disney World. It is most definitely a problem there and usually considered worse.

Not from my experience, only problems are at high value FP (SDMT, SM, FOP) where people are clearly trying to sneak in and cause backups.

 

[eddie104]

Not from my experience, only problems are at high value FP (SDMT, SM, FOP) where people are clearly trying to sneak in and cause backups.

I can tell you one thing is that this argument goes around in circles.

 

[Touchdown]

I can tell you one thing is that this argument goes around in circles.

The thing is, the rides have the touch points, even if it was only for FP and nothing else, I would use it, as would a lot of others (I almost always see a few people wearing them as an accessory at DL.). So I’m not sure why they haven’t just turned it on and start selling them.

 

[Disney Irish]

The thing is, the rides have the touch points, even if it was only for FP and nothing else, I would use it, as would a lot of others (I almost always see a few people wearing them as an accessory at DL.). So I’m not sure why they haven’t just turned it on and start selling them.

Just because you might see something that looks like a touch point doesn't mean it actually is a touch point. Its not just as simple as "turning them on".

 

[Touchdown]

There is no design reason I can think of for having a large red sphere portion surrounded by a spinning light that looks exactly like Florida’s touch point except if they planned on coverting to this system later, even the new ones with the cellphone slot still have them.

As mentioned previously in the thread, now RFID readers are popping up at GCH. It’s gotta be coming at some point.