Magic Kingdom Overhaul as a Response to Epic Universe?

[justintheharris]

You are not understanding what I am trying say at all for AK. What I am trying to say is Disney could getting guests that are more instead in Pandora and a couple things at the park than rest of it. That basically means AK has gained crowds, but staying int the park something I question after Pandora unless the lines for non Pandora attractions gets bigger after I left the park after 1:00 p.m.

I went to WDW multiple years after Pandora opened. I stayed at AK from around 9 to 1 p.m for afternoon break. I take breaks for resting my legs. My problem is not conditioning, but my legs are affected by old injuries including a major injury.

At the time frame I was in AK, Pandora was very busy, but there was not change for Dinosaur wait times from 2016 to this year at the time I was in the park. The same thing is true with Kilimanjaro Safari. I've seen the wait times for Everest while I was at AK and the same thing. I like going to WDW at a time that crowds are not as busy in general.

I am not into going to AK at night. AK seems to have light problems at night based on what I seen on Youtube, plus I could not handle leaving Rivers of Light Nighttime show. My problem is I have problems with steps with my legs and I can't go fast and that means I can be ran over when Rivers of Light ends as. I had problems with Fantasmic in the past also with speed going up steps.

The problem with your attendance fact is people it does make the conclusion that the guests at AK after leaving Pandora. I am prime example of a flaw of just looking at Attendance. When I go to WDW, I have a park hopper. There are days that the WDW theme park I go to in the morning is not the same park I will be at night due to park hopper.

I'm sorry dude but there's way too many typos in your post for me to fully understand what you're saying.

 

[Jon81uk]

How long ago was this?

I visited California in 2012 and 2018.

Trying to watch the fireworks in Disneyland Park last year was just an awful experience, that park really suffers due to crowds in the evening. But Paint the Night at California Adventure was a highlight of the entire trip.

Both coasts need to find ways to make the second (and third/fourth) gates as compelling as the castle park to help with the overcrowding issues in the main park.

 

[Jon81uk]

I'm not sure if I'm understanding you're post correctly but if you're suggesting pre-Pandora and post-Pandora crowds at Animal Kingdom are the same, Animal Kingdom has had double digit attendance increases over two years since Pandora's opening.

And why do you not think Disney would expand upon Magic Kingdom after Tron's opening? I mean after all, Disneyland California has two E tickets on the agenda coming up.

Animal Kingdom needs to keep growing and expanding and so does DHS. Both parks need more to do and DHS particularly as the previous poster stated need to replace the shows.

Magic Kingdom doesn't need headliners to get more crowds, send them to DHS or Epcot instead.

At Disneyland I think its a different market, but I would also push for more additions to Cali adventure compared to Disneyland.

 

[KevinPage]

1. Freshen up TL thematically
2. Trackless dark ride in Stitch space
3. Update the speedway so it’s at least somewhat futuristic
4. Update final scene of CoP
5. Update Peter Pan. You can keep its old school charm but also add some much needed energy and tech to it
6. Bring back Xmas & summer Country Bear shows
7. Get a nighttime parade
8. Get the railroad running (gonna happen anyways)

 

[justintheharris]

1. Freshen up TL thematically
2. Trackless dark ride in Stitch space
3. Update the speedway so it’s at least somewhat futuristic
4. Update final scene of CoP
5. Update Peter Pan. You can keep its old school charm but also add some much needed energy and tech to it
6. Bring back Xmas & summer Country Bear shows
7. Get a nighttime parade
8. Get the railroad running (gonna happen anyways)

There’s no room for a trackless dark ride in the Stitch space and that’s not exactly what I’d consider an overhaul of magic kingdom.

 

[justintheharris]

Animal Kingdom needs to keep growing and expanding and so does DHS. Both parks need more to do and DHS particularly as the previous poster stated need to replace the shows.

Magic Kingdom doesn't need headliners to get more crowds, send them to DHS or Epcot instead.

At Disneyland I think its a different market, but I would also push for more additions to Cali adventure compared to Disneyland.

They’ve been trying that strategy for ages but it isn’t working because after explore Pandora or Star Wars, they might spend the day in the park but eventually will go to Magic Kingdom.

 

[Jon81uk]

They’ve been trying that strategy for ages but it isn’t working because after explore Pandora or Star Wars, they might spend the day in the park but eventually will go to Magic Kingdom.

Then the night time entertainment needs further improvement to keep people in the other parks into the evening

 

[KBLovedDisney]

The decline of enjoyment occurred over a few visits so we did what we suggest others do when they start complaining about Disney no longer being enjoyable. We simply stopped going.

If I may humbly interject, just because we folks here on this site complain about something Disney, doesn't mean we don't find it still enjoyable.

I mean I'm sure my husbands says that sometimes about me as well and yet here he is.

 

[Queen of the WDW Scene]

If I may humbly interject, just because we folks here on this site complain about something Disney, doesn't mean we don't find it still enjoyable.

I mean I'm sure my husbands says that sometimes about me as well and yet here he is.

There have been threads about people saying they no longer enjoy going mostly due to price and FP and some due to changes being made to EPCOT. So that is who I'm referring to.
And if I recall you ha e had many negative things to say about the parks in the past that would suggest that you no longer enjoy it.

 

[wdwfan4ver]

I'm not sure if I'm understanding you're post correctly but if you're suggesting pre-Pandora and post-Pandora crowds at Animal Kingdom are the same, Animal Kingdom has had double digit attendance increases over two years since Pandora's opening.

Numbers don't tell the whole story and you are not getting what I tried to say. The problem with attendance figures is they do not tell how long they stayed in a theme park and if that person has park hopper.

You throwing the attendance increases stats, but means nothing if the guests don't spend a lot of time in AK after leaving the Pandora section of AK. If you are into looking at animals and atmosphere, you can make a day out of this park besides doing the rides. What I am suggesting Pandora gets crowded, that does not mean guests are interest in other stuff AK offers.

When I go to WDW, I usually go in a time frame for that people go back to school and college. On my AK days during my WDW trips, I stay around 9:00 in the morning to 1:00 in the afternoon. Pandora is very busy at the time I go, but I go on other attractions outside of Pandora.

I know guests go to Pandora right away when they enter the park, but it does not complete explain what I see for attraction waits for Kilimanjaro safari. I did not see an increase of a wait time for Kilimanjaro Safari from 2016 to 2019 during my visits there.

 

[DisneyAndUniversalFan]

Yes I think the rides need a complete makeover or overhaul, there’s a reason Magic Kingdom is becoming the most dated castle park.

 

[Kaelsma]

My son and I were at WDW last week and at one point I said to him that Disney needs to STOP with all of the construction! They need to finish up the current projects and just STOP for a while - especially at The Magic Kingdom. All of the scrims and visible construction equipment are ruining the illusion. Walt would not be happy.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

My son and I were at WDW last week and at one point I said to him that Disney needs to STOP with all of the construction! They need to finish up the current projects and just STOP for a while - especially at The Magic Kingdom. All of the scrims and visible construction equipment are ruining the illusion. Walt would not be happy.

They are prepping for the 50th Anniversary. MK should be mostly construction free for 2021.

 

[Raineman]

My son and I were at WDW last week and at one point I said to him that Disney needs to STOP with all of the construction! They need to finish up the current projects and just STOP for a while - especially at The Magic Kingdom. All of the scrims and visible construction equipment are ruining the illusion. Walt would not be happy.

The problem is, is that you have people complaining that new additions/changes are not happening enough at WDW. Then, when Disney starts moving forward with multiple simultaneous additions/changes to the parks, people complain about all the construction walls. You can't have it both ways in this scenario-it's basically a lose-lose situation.