Magic Kingdom hours extended 11/11

Andy Whitfield

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I've never understood how this works. If your working your shift as a CM to the Kingdom then some manager decides to extend the hours in the day do you HAVE to stay on? do they get overtime? What if you've a carers responsibility that means you can't stay on working?
 

wdwmagic

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I've never understood how this works. If your working your shift as a CM to the Kingdom then some manager decides to extend the hours in the day do you HAVE to stay on? do they get overtime? What if you've a carers responsibility that means you can't stay on working?
Yes the cast have to extend. They are paid.
 

Jakester

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I've never understood how this works. If your working your shift as a CM to the Kingdom then some manager decides to extend the hours in the day do you HAVE to stay on? do they get overtime? What if you've a carers responsibility that means you can't stay on working?
If you are a closing CM at any location that closes with the par, you get forced. Anything besides that Isn't mandatory unless you want to stay.
 

Andy Whitfield

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they can't really make plans for after work then? not that you would really want plans after 12 odd hours of work but i was thinking more of those who needed child care etc.
 

Bolt

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they can't really make plans for after work then? not that you would really want plans after 12 odd hours of work but i was thinking more of those who needed child care etc.
The union contract requires them to stay. They sign it every negotiation period. They typically are pushed into overtime so it's not too terrible.
 

MarkTwain

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I've never understood how this works. If your working your shift as a CM to the Kingdom then some manager decides to extend the hours in the day do you HAVE to stay on? do they get overtime? What if you've a carers responsibility that means you can't stay on working?

they can't really make plans for after work then? not that you would really want plans after 12 odd hours of work but i was thinking more of those who needed child care etc.

Yep, cast are just notified that their shifts have been extended a few hours and that's it. This usually only happens a few times a year so one can USUALLY make reliable post-work plans (and we CPers often did/do) but if your shift gets extended, better start rescheduling. If anything, how infrequently it happens makes it much worse because it's much harder to predict when it does. I don't know how it works for full-timers but on the CP, I don't think people got paid overtime for extensions unless it also made the shift longer than 8 hours (when you get paid OT anyway). Then again, we didn't get paid holiday pay on Christmas or Thanksgiving, either.

This is one of the issues raised in that contentious thread about cast member conditions. The tumblr post in the original post talked about a student who had planned on turning in an assignment by midnight, and Disney extended his shift so he couldn't (and wouldn't accommodate him).
 

BrerJon

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they can't really make plans for after work then? not that you would really want plans after 12 odd hours of work but i was thinking more of those who needed child care etc.

A job at Disney probably isn't for them, sadly. Disney doesn't do fixed shifts of working hours, CMs are just given a start time and an approximate finish. If they're on til 'close', that will be whenever the park closes. Any plans made after work are always made with the proviso that the mouse may put a stop to things.

Anyone can be force extended, which means they need to stay longer, but on the flipside it's often possible to be released earlier than your schedule dictated, especially if they have too many staff, so as a whole it probably averages out - if anything I suspect most CMs get more requests to leave early granted than they get forced to extend.
 

Bolt

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Yep, cast are just notified that their shifts have been extended a few hours and that's it. This usually only happens a few times a year so one can USUALLY make reliable post-work plans (and we CPers often did/do) but if your shift gets extended, better start rescheduling. If anything, how infrequently it happens makes it much worse because it's much harder to predict when it does. I don't know how it works for full-timers but on the CP, I don't think people got paid overtime for extensions unless it also made the shift longer than 8 hours (when you get paid OT anyway). Then again, we didn't get paid holiday pay on Christmas or Thanksgiving, either.

This is one of the issues raised in that contentious thread about cast member conditions. The tumblr post in the original post talked about a student who had planned on turning in an assignment by midnight, and Disney extended his shift so he couldn't (and wouldn't accommodate him).
Teaches them procrastination is always the best.
 

MarkTwain

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A job at Disney probably isn't for them, sadly. Disney doesn't do fixed shifts of working hours, CMs are just given a start time and an approximate finish. If they're on til 'close', that will be whenever the park closes. Any plans made after work are always made with the proviso that the mouse may put a stop to things.

Anyone can be force extended, which means they need to stay longer, but on the flipside it's often possible to be released earlier than your schedule dictated, especially if they have too many staff, so as a whole it probably averages out - if anything I suspect most CMs get more requests to leave early granted than they get forced to extend.

True. And managers often look for volunteers first. Since park ops require less people at night, they often look for the people already working in the evening to be willing to stay later (at least in my location, and we were known for good managers)
 

TheRabbit

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Ask any cast member that works Magic Kingdom and they will all tell you they are used to it. It comes with the territory. Not saying they all like it.
 

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