Magic Kingdom 50th Anniversary Plans

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Bocabear

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Paint The Night has suddenly reappeared on the Disneyland website as available for dining packages. Surprise!

I think the IT department in New Dehli just ruined the big announcement, but at least this frees up the MSEP to head back to WDW for the 50th!

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I was hoping something....anything would prevent the MSEP coming back for the 50th...Ugh...
With several newer parades around the world, why they could not create a new light parade for Disney's Flagship park is embarrassing and sad... At this point, Light Magic would be better...though I am sure those floats are long gone.
Seems like the 50th is going to be a bust except for the attractions already opened and necessary due to lack of capacity...
 

TTA94

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Well, something we need to keep in mind, Paint The Night will more than likely only run for the summer as it did before. MSEP? Who knows. But overall there still is time before we find out anything. We all knew we won’t be hearing a peep from Disney about the 50th until Destination D this fall.
 

TTA94

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MSEP... *sigh*

TDO - "Everything old is new again! Well, it's still old, we're just going to make you think it's new."

Well unlike the last time MSEP was at MK, Tink, most likely, won’t be leading the parade. That was a good change DL made IMO as that was just a awkward opening float. Much better in the Peter Pan section. We won’t be having one of the Pinocchio floats as that’s now gone. Also I’m not sure what would happen to the drum wording?Its good they ditched the “Disney Electrical Parade” but now they’d have to remove the Disneyland wording, obviously. What a mess! Lol

At least give MSEP as much of a refurb/upgrade as possible. Build a new Blue Fairy float. Add in some new floats in, update existing ones... in other words a cheap US version of Dreamlights lol.
 

HauntedPirate

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Well unlike the last time MSEP was at MK, Tink, most likely, won’t be leading the parade. That was a good change DL made IMO as that was just a awkward opening float. Much better in the Peter Pan section. We won’t be having one of the Pinocchio floats as that’s now gone. Also I’m not sure what would happen to the drum wording?Its good they ditched the “Disney Electrical Parade” but now they’d have to remove the Disneyland wording, obviously. What a mess! Lol

At least give MSEP as much of a refurb/upgrade as possible. Build a new Blue Fairy float. Add in some new floats in, update existing ones... in other words a cheap US version of Dreamlights lol.

Is TDO supposed to do that? Since they don’t have the best track record of maintaining floats (See: MSEP floats after its last run there), I can’t imagine they would do much better upgrading something that’s temporary/should have been permanently retired years ago. Maybe they could.
 

Bocabear

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At this point, junk it and start fresh... The nostalgia fans feel is just for a light parade...it sure doesn't have to be MSEP...and Disney World fans feel more nostalgic for Spectro-Magic which was our original parade... Given the life expectancy of these parades, the investment makes sense...a new parade would carry the park for several decades if properly maintained...,, Just get rid of that creaky 48 year old Disneyland parade...
It is time...
 

Thelazer

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At this point, junk it and start fresh... The nostalgia fans feel is just for a light parade...it sure doesn't have to be MSEP...and Disney World fans feel more nostalgic for Spectro-Magic which was our original parade... Given the life expectancy of these parades, the investment makes sense...a new parade would carry the park for several decades if properly maintained...,, Just get rid of that creaky 48 year old Disneyland parade...
It is time...

This.
 

brb1006

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At this point, junk it and start fresh... The nostalgia fans feel is just for a light parade...it sure doesn't have to be MSEP...and Disney World fans feel more nostalgic for Spectro-Magic which was our original parade... Given the life expectancy of these parades, the investment makes sense...a new parade would carry the park for several decades if properly maintained...,, Just get rid of that creaky 48 year old Disneyland parade...
It is time...
Yeah, we deserves another electrical that's exclusive to the resort. Not just another copy/clone or borrowed parade.
 

huwar18

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I've said before that with all the (legit) concerns about a lack of capacity, why wouldn't they add a parade to DHS to help give the crowds something else to do? Seemed like a no brainer to me.

Given the ample night time entertainment, I'd love to see a daytime parade come back to DHS.
I use to love the daytime parades. They use to have the Pixar Parade. It was simply but fun.
 

MadTeacup

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Paint the Night fits in Magic Kingdom, save for Mack. Probably options to replace him though. The primary issue with WDW is how they treat parades, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the climate. The techs in Florida just aren’t as good as the ones in California, and it’s not really their fault. It’s that they are underpaid and don’t get the maintenance money to keep the floats up to snuff. California was disappointed in the condition that MSEP was in when it returned to CA after it was in FL. They just don’t take care of things well enough in Florida. That makes CA’s management hesitant to send a parade to FL. However, PtN is notoriously expensive to run. It’s not a cheap parade at all. We’re talking like 3x the budget to run PtN than MSEP. I’m not saying PtN isn’t coming to WDW, I’m just making some points here so some of you can see why it’s not as easy of a decision as you might like it to be.
You are very correct that the primary issue with parades in WDW is how they are treated, but climate has EVERYTHING to do with how they end up in such horrible condition. How often do you see Disneyland send out a parade in the rain? Almost never. Now how often do they do it in Florida? All the time! Fun fact: Festival of Fantasy was built to run in dry weather conditions only. The electrical components and computers are not fully waterproofed. Magic Kingdom slowly kills its parades by constantly sending them out in rain. Also, consider all the costume pieces that are dry clean only. When they get drenched in a downpour, colors bleed and fabrics shrink. Now imagine these conditions with the addition of a highly computerized light show running through the various elements. Magic Kingdom is much too concerned with guest satisfaction scores to properly take care of a parade like Paint the Night.
Regarding the Florida parade maintenance team, they are actually a VERY talented team of engineers who put a lot of work into keeping our floats looking great. They get all the money they need to keep everything working and replace worn-out parts. I would actually argue that much more money is put into maintaining the animations and effects in FoF than was ever put into Soundsational. (There were animations that were abandoned.) The rebuilding of the Maleficent float alone is a testament to how dedicated our team is to putting out a good show. That was a lot of money invested into new computer and flame systems, not to mention the fire suppression system that was installed and scrapped before she ever even made her triumphant return. The area where the budget is lacking is in staffing. It is a fairly small crew that is responsible for keeping everything going. Probably the biggest issue, as others have mentioned, is the lack of downtime. Disneyland gets months at a time to rehab their floats. Magic Kingdom has about nine days in December when they run MOUCP during the daytime and unfortunately much of the maintenance team is on vacation.
 

TTA94

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You are very correct that the primary issue with parades in WDW is how they are treated, but climate has EVERYTHING to do with how they end up in such horrible condition. How often do you see Disneyland send out a parade in the rain? Almost never. Now how often do they do it in Florida? All the time! Fun fact: Festival of Fantasy was built to run in dry weather conditions only. The electrical components and computers are not fully waterproofed. Magic Kingdom slowly kills its parades by constantly sending them out in rain. Also, consider all the costume pieces that are dry clean only. When they get drenched in a downpour, colors bleed and fabrics shrink. Now imagine these conditions with the addition of a highly computerized light show running through the various elements. Magic Kingdom is much too concerned with guest satisfaction scores to properly take care of a parade like Paint the Night.
Regarding the Florida parade maintenance team, they are actually a VERY talented team of engineers who put a lot of work into keeping our floats looking great. They get all the money they need to keep everything working and replace worn-out parts. I would actually argue that much more money is put into maintaining the animations and effects in FoF than was ever put into Soundsational. (There were animations that were abandoned.) The rebuilding of the Maleficent float alone is a testament to how dedicated our team is to putting out a good show. That was a lot of money invested into new computer and flame systems, not to mention the fire suppression system that was installed and scrapped before she ever even made her triumphant return. The area where the budget is lacking is in staffing. It is a fairly small crew that is responsible for keeping everything going. Probably the biggest issue, as others have mentioned, is the lack of downtime. Disneyland gets months at a time to rehab their floats. Magic Kingdom has about nine days in December when they run MOUCP during the daytime and unfortunately much of the maintenance team is on vacation.

Solution: Rainy (night) parade. Tokyo has this which is called Nightfall Glow. Or, better yet, build floats that can run in all weather conditions.

There are options, it’s just going to cost them. Unfortunately that’s why we only have HEA currently.
 

doctornick

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I'm a huge fan of MSEP (much prefer it to Spectro) but even I would say that bringing it back to WDW as the "highlight" of the 50th would be a shame. MK absolutely deserves a new/unique light parade for such a big milestone.

I could understand having MSEP make occasional appearances for limited/special occasions as a nostalgia treat - something like if it performed every Sunday or something with the "real" parade the rest of the week. The parade is a huge part of the faric of Disney parks and deserves its nostalgia tag much like many of the classic rides and attractions. So I vehemently disagree with those who want to scrap it. But that doesn't mean it should be a headliner at any park anymore.
 

The Visionary Soul

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You are very correct that the primary issue with parades in WDW is how they are treated, but climate has EVERYTHING to do with how they end up in such horrible condition. How often do you see Disneyland send out a parade in the rain? Almost never. Now how often do they do it in Florida? All the time! Fun fact: Festival of Fantasy was built to run in dry weather conditions only. The electrical components and computers are not fully waterproofed. Magic Kingdom slowly kills its parades by constantly sending them out in rain. Also, consider all the costume pieces that are dry clean only. When they get drenched in a downpour, colors bleed and fabrics shrink. Now imagine these conditions with the addition of a highly computerized light show running through the various elements. Magic Kingdom is much too concerned with guest satisfaction scores to properly take care of a parade like Paint the Night.
Regarding the Florida parade maintenance team, they are actually a VERY talented team of engineers who put a lot of work into keeping our floats looking great. They get all the money they need to keep everything working and replace worn-out parts. I would actually argue that much more money is put into maintaining the animations and effects in FoF than was ever put into Soundsational. (There were animations that were abandoned.) The rebuilding of the Maleficent float alone is a testament to how dedicated our team is to putting out a good show. That was a lot of money invested into new computer and flame systems, not to mention the fire suppression system that was installed and scrapped before she ever even made her triumphant return. The area where the budget is lacking is in staffing. It is a fairly small crew that is responsible for keeping everything going. Probably the biggest issue, as others have mentioned, is the lack of downtime. Disneyland gets months at a time to rehab their floats. Magic Kingdom has about nine days in December when they run MOUCP during the daytime and unfortunately much of the maintenance team is on vacation.
They don’t have enough money because they don’t have enough labor to keep up the parades. God bless them, but they don’t know what they are missing. Compare them to say, the Tokyo team, and the difference is like night and day.

Also, the dragon was rebuilt with assistance from the French. The dragon was all 3rd party, and the French dragon didn’t have the design flaw that the American dragon had, so the new dragon is based upon the superior French design. 🇫🇷
 

doctornick

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Speaking of parades... with DL getting Magic Happens, what is going on to Soundsational? Did those floats get repurposed (or scrapped) or is it sitting in a warehouse somewhere?

While MK doesn't need a day parade - FoF is better IMHO anyway - I think Soundsational would be a nice addition as a day parade at DHS. Especially with it being "music" themed that seems appropriate for an entertainment centered park like DHS.

Not that I think this is in the works at all or even being considered but I think it would be a relatively affordable new offering for WDW to add.
 

mickeyfan5534

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Speaking of parades... with DL getting Magic Happens, what is going on to Soundsational? Did those floats get repurposed (or scrapped) or is it sitting in a warehouse somewhere?

While MK doesn't need a day parade - FoF is better IMHO anyway - I think Soundsational would be a nice addition as a day parade at DHS. Especially with it being "music" themed that seems appropriate for an entertainment centered park like DHS.

Not that I think this is in the works at all or even being considered but I think it would be a relatively affordable new offering for WDW to add.
The floats were stripped and the chassis reused for Magic Happens.
 

doctornick

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The floats were stripped and the chassis reused for Magic Happens.

Fair enough, not surprising. What about the Pixar Play Parade? Though I don't think that's as good, it would still be a nice addition to DHS if such a move were possible.

Please note that I still advocate for a brand new light parade at MK - but if they are considering shipping a parade to WDW, I'd rather it be something new to the resort rather than just getting back MSEP. Sadly, grabbing parades from Anaheim or elsewhere seems like the most likely way to get any at WDW.
 

Donald Dutch

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Speaking of old parade float chassis, do we know what happened to the CADCTP floats? I know one of them got transformed into a float for Elsa at the Frozen Royal Welcome Parade at DHS, but what happened to the rest?
 
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