Lot more " service dogs" seen this past summer

JIMINYCR

JIMINYCR

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MIKETFROMRI said:
Noticed so many " service dogs" this past summer....some say that not all are real service dogs...I say they are soooo cute..who cares!!!!!
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People who legitimately need a Service Dog. People who have a Service Dog that might encounter someone whose dog is not trained or under control. Someone who can be injured by a dog that might bite because it doesn't have the proper temperament or soundness to handle being in crowds or pressure situations. Being soooo cute doesn't work.

EOD K9 said:
WOW. The ADA says you can ask a person what the dog is trained for, however, you cannot ask them to demonstrate said training. Also, a dog whose sole purpose is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service dogs.
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From the ADA Service dog law. Only 2 questions that can be asked....
Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?
What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

So unfortunately the CM is powerless, really cant stop anyone from coming in. Until the Federal Govt can come up with some better way to stop the abuse you'll have people bringing their pets in and misrepresent them.

The dog doesnt have rights for access it's the person with the disability that has rights for access with a trained service dog. Even a Service Dog must be under control and have good behavior or the business owner can ask you to leave the premises ... even a legitimate Service Dog..

As a dog trainer and someone whose DW has had several service dogs, I get a lot of calls from people who ask how can I get my dog certified as a service dog? He provides emotional support for me. My doctor, therapist, said I can get my dog certified. Unfortunately, even with us trying educate these professionals, they keep pushing the wrong info to their clients. And you get these so called necessary dogs everywhere. In some states ( Maine is one) it's against the law for someone to represent a pet as a service dog and you can be fined for doing so. And now because of so many Vets injured theres so much scamming going on by so called trainers who say they can train service dogs. GRRRRRR
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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JIMINYCR said:
People who legitimately need a Service Dog. People who have a Service Dog that might encounter someone whose dog is not trained or under control. Someone who can be injured by a dog that might bite because it doesn't have the proper temperament or soundness to handle being in crowds or pressure situations. Being soooo cute doesn't work.



From the ADA Service dog law. Only 2 questions that can be asked....
Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?
What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

So unfortunately the CM is powerless, really cant stop anyone from coming in. Until the Federal Govt can come up with some better way to stop the abuse you'll have people bringing their pets in and misrepresent them.

The dog doesnt have rights for access it's the person with the disability that has rights for access with a trained service dog. Even a Service Dog must be under control and have good behavior or the business owner can ask you to leave the premises ... even a legitimate Service Dog..

As a dog trainer and someone whose DW has had several service dogs, I get a lot of calls from people who ask how can I get my dog certified as a service dog? He provides emotional support for me. My doctor, therapist, said I can get my dog certified. Unfortunately, even with us trying educate these professionals, they keep pushing the wrong info to their clients. And you get these so called necessary dogs everywhere. In some states ( Maine is one) it's against the law for someone to represent a pet as a service dog and you can be fined for doing so. And now because of so many Vets injured theres so much scamming going on by so called trainers who say they can train service dogs. GRRRRRR
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I thought that at some point they said that the person could train their own animal, didn't need a certifiable trainer.
 
Victor Kelly

Victor Kelly

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Our animals provide their support for us at home. One dog, and 2 cats.

Traditionally service animals have been used by the blind. Now they help their owners with everyday life. Ref here http://pleasedontpetme.com/differences.php

If you have to ask whether you have a legitimate service animal, then you do not. The people in this country are really starting to make me sick. And from what I read here and elsewhere, others are beginning to feel the same way.
 
DznyGrlSD

DznyGrlSD

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RandomPrincess said:
Because they LOVE their dog so much they could possibly leave it at home even for a trip to the grocery store. Would you leave your baby at home while you ran to the store?:rolleyes:
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exactly. I dog-sit for my parents all the time (and I'm WELL compensated!) they won't bring them along but won't leave them at home alone either.
 
PrincessMia

PrincessMia

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It's just so shameful. Don't get me wrong, I love my dogs. I'm too much of a rule follower to scam the system, though. Also, THEY ARE DOGS. They are a hassle. I would rather not go than take my dogs and constantly worry about them relieving themselves someplace inappropriate. These are the idiots who walk their dogs and don't pick up after them!! Sorry, touched a nerve.
 
C.FERNIE

C.FERNIE

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I still remember the story of rich folks paying disabled tour guides to take them round the parks so they could get front of line privlages! shocking!
 
jmorri26

jmorri26

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I was shocked and had never noticed this til our Disneyland trip last month! I saw maybe 5 dogs over a few days- one a corgi, one a chihuahua! They were all in similar getups- mouse ears, custom made doggie outfits to look like characters (the corgi was donald!) and a little makeshift vest that says service dog. And snooty ladies prancing them around the parks like they're royalty!

I heard some places, doctors can "authorize" a person to say they can have a service dog for silly things like stress or headaches! So, especially in Cali, I wouldn't be surprised if these folks march in with their dogs and show a doctor's note and get to do whatever they want with their pet. How weird. And creepy.
 
EOD K9

EOD K9

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jmorri26 said:
I was shocked and had never noticed this til our Disneyland trip last month! I saw maybe 5 dogs over a few days- one a corgi, one a chihuahua! They were all in similar getups- mouse ears, custom made doggie outfits to look like characters (the corgi was donald!) and a little makeshift vest that says service dog. And snooty ladies prancing them around the parks like they're royalty!

I heard some places, doctors can "authorize" a person to say they can have a service dog for silly things like stress or headaches! So, especially in Cali, I wouldn't be surprised if these folks march in with their dogs and show a doctor's note and get to do whatever they want with their pet. How weird. And creepy.
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Headaches are not a valid reason for a service dog. The K9 can serve no function that way in an ADA capacity.
 
EOD K9

EOD K9

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hull327 said:
I wonder if this is what the Romans felt like at the end of their dynasty?
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Quintas : "A people should know when they are conquered".
Maximus: "Would you Quintas? Would I"?

Bonus points if you know the movie. Its fairly simple though.
 

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