bwr827
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You mean like mating and achieving a position of dominance?
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Rumor Lion King Flume Ride being considered for Animal Kingdom
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easyrowrdw
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I'm not particularly opposed to a Lion King ride at AK but I don't think this is a strong argument for it. Just because Disney made a bad decision years ago doesn’t mean that should be the benchmark. Surely we’re aiming for a much higher standard than Dinorama.
Sir_Cliff
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Do you feel like the story of The Lion King was designed to explore the mating habits and social dynamics of wild lions?
MerlinTheGoat
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doctornick
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The characters in Lion King are animals living animal lives but we just understand them. They aren’t Zootopia-esque humans in animals skins.
Does the plot of the film have them doing actions that are accurate depictions of how Lions, etc behave? Of course not because that would be a boring film. But the premise is still real animals encountering an abnormal situation. I mean the big zinger of a song that leads the film is talking about the Circle of Life. and they do talk engage in actual environmental situations.
Would I like a book report ride in DAK? Wouldn’t be ideal and I’d rather see something that uses the characters to engage about more environmental issues or wildlife behavior. Maybe sort of like the old Epcot film but more showing and less telling. But I wouldn’t feel like even a book report would be that incongruent with the park.
I’d be curious as to what would be the premise, especially as a TLK ride was previously developed specifically for DAK - when Rohde was running things in fact - at the time the FOTLK show was moved.
I actually agree with the point that the cartoony nature would contrast with the rest of realistic Harambe (even the theatre). Ironically this could be solved by using the (less enjoyed) live action version.* I guess my way of dealing with that would be to try to set it apart more from the town and have it be more “wild” and “jungle like” to try to sell the difference from the human inhabited areas and that you are now in an animal area. I dunno. I think WDI could effectively come up with a way to harmonize it.
*As an aside, I think the live action Jungle Book is actually the superior version and I’d support using that as the basis for a ride in Asia.
Does the plot of the film have them doing actions that are accurate depictions of how Lions, etc behave? Of course not because that would be a boring film. But the premise is still real animals encountering an abnormal situation. I mean the big zinger of a song that leads the film is talking about the Circle of Life. and they do talk engage in actual environmental situations.
Would I like a book report ride in DAK? Wouldn’t be ideal and I’d rather see something that uses the characters to engage about more environmental issues or wildlife behavior. Maybe sort of like the old Epcot film but more showing and less telling. But I wouldn’t feel like even a book report would be that incongruent with the park.
I’d be curious as to what would be the premise, especially as a TLK ride was previously developed specifically for DAK - when Rohde was running things in fact - at the time the FOTLK show was moved.
I actually agree with the point that the cartoony nature would contrast with the rest of realistic Harambe (even the theatre). Ironically this could be solved by using the (less enjoyed) live action version.* I guess my way of dealing with that would be to try to set it apart more from the town and have it be more “wild” and “jungle like” to try to sell the difference from the human inhabited areas and that you are now in an animal area. I dunno. I think WDI could effectively come up with a way to harmonize it.
*As an aside, I think the live action Jungle Book is actually the superior version and I’d support using that as the basis for a ride in Asia.
lazyboy97o
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There are definitely no famous human stories about a prince who seeks revenge on his fratricidal uncle.
Animaniac93-98
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But is Shakespeare still a relevant IP with brand recognition?
I mean, it's not like they teach kids Shakespeare in school...
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Moth
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The Jungle Book has a more outright connection to man and nature than The Lion King, it's why both the stories and film stood the test of time. It's just a timeless story on how man and nature interact that fits into DAK cleaner than Lion Hamlet.
mickEblu
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Right and Lion King is also heavily represented. Jungle Book would be a nice breath of fresh air. It kind of just gives me more of the warm and fuzzies and I think would translate better into a theme park attraction even though Lion King is the better movie by far.
Moth
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God I wish. I LOVEEE the Jungle Book, but nah. I haven't heard anything about it sadly.
Investment seems focused on post 2000s IP largely barring notable exclusions (ex: the topic of this thread).
mickEblu
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Well Disney, if you’re listening put a Jungle Book ride somewhere in DL forward. Would it be redundant in or near the same park with a Jungle Cruise? Maybe. Regardless I’d like to see some room carved out at DL forward for some classic and Renaissance IP that doesn’t have representation. Jungle Book, BatB and Aladdin would be at the top of the list for me. Red Rose Tavern doesn’t cut it and we need that E ticket suspended Aladdin ride. Think Shanghai Pan but bigger. Especially if they’re not making Coco a traditional suspended ride. Have you heard anything about a Coco ride for DCA?
doctornick
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Certainly. But it is unheard of for an animal to defeat the leader of his group of animals in order to take over? Obviously the characters in TLK have some human qualities - to make them interesting and relatable - but in a big picture sense they are still animals behaving as animals. They certainly fit the “no pants” rule.
ednamodedarling
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The major difference between THE LION KING & THE JUNGLE BOOK is one IP is a multi billion dollar franchise & the other is somewhat irrelevant. Regardless of it being perhaps more of a fit for the park. The Lion King is literally about animals in the african savannah. lol. If we are finding issues with this, than I don't think they have many (if any) alternatives up their sleeve that won't upset people.
BrianLo
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The Jungle Book
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Ok, just missed the cut off.
If we were to have seen this, it would have been the John Favreau film. I think the window has now mostly closed. Much like the weird time capsule that is Shanghai capturing Tim Burton's Alice.
Brer Panther
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This.
I still can't wrap my head around the idea that the animals in The Lion King are too human-like to fit in Animal Kingdom, but movies that are actually about humans like Encanto and Indiana Jones are fine because the animals in them don't talk. What, does Tangled belong in Animal Kingdom just because of the chameleon and horse?
Horizons '83
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- In the Parks
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Lion King absolutely fits in AK, in fact, its already there and has been since the park opened. Not sure how this is even an argument/conversation.
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DAK should only have rides that are based on National Geographic documentaries!!!
Sir_Cliff
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I feel like people on both sides of this are equally puzzled at why the other side isn't understanding their points.
No-one is saying that Encanto or Indiana Jones are inherently great fits for Animal Kingdom just because they have animals in them that don't talk. What some of us are saying is that you can imagine attractions that focus on the relationship between people and animals/nature that would broadly fit within the park based on the way this relationship is portrayed in the films. If you had, for example, a book report ride of Encanto or a carbon copy of IJA from Disneyland, however, that also wouldn't fit the park well.
The Lion King is a film featuring animated lions and other animals standing in for human characters with human motivations. It is not a story about how animals live and relate to one another in the real world, however great Circle of Life may be. So, if you just basically put down a book report ride based on a human story performed by anthropormophized animals without any other element it sits weirdly amidst a park with a very realistic aesthetic, real animals, and attractions that have so far mostly avoided a Fantasyland-style portrayal of animals as being just like people.
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