Lights, Motors, Action! on its way out soon?

Monoblanco13

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If rumors are correct and Bob Iger seems to confirm something is in the works. Echo Lake will all be Star Wars Land and the opposite side Pixar Land. I really hope this happens soon as the parks really need it. As of now DHS and AK are half day parks and need something to keep the crowds in. My suggestion is to bring more thrill rides like the proposed Monsters Inc Roller coaster an other things that the whole family could enjoy. Unfortunately for me most shows are something I'd watch maybe once a year at most. They need to do to DHS like Disney California Adventure especially considering the new rumored name Disney Hollywood Adventure.
 

Coaster Lover

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I can't imagine they would build a Star Wars land without a Star Wars themed epic stunt show. The question is the order that they do it in. As others have said, both Indy and LMA are HUGE crowd eaters, so I'd be surprised to see both shuttered at the same time while they work on two new lands. Given the proposed location of the Star Wars project, I guess they could keep the Indy seating area and just build a new set for the stunt show which (in theory) could keep closure time to a minimum. Given that they have already shuttered the back lot tour and nothing else towards the front of the park, I'd be more inclined to believe that the first projects would start back there (probably with the removal of LMA) and that Indy would be spared until a large capacity ride/land was built where the tour and LMA are/were. Tough to say...
 

EpcoTim

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Just put some X-wing body cladding on the airplane, put the stunt guy in a Luke Skywalker bathrobe, add some James Earl Jones and voilà--Star Wars stunt spectacular.
 

CaptainAmerica

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I can't imagine they would build a Star Wars land without a Star Wars themed epic stunt show. The question is the order that they do it in. As others have said, both Indy and LMA are HUGE crowd eaters, so I'd be surprised to see both shuttered at the same time while they work on two new lands. Given the proposed location of the Star Wars project, I guess they could keep the Indy seating area and just build a new set for the stunt show which (in theory) could keep closure time to a minimum. Given that they have already shuttered the back lot tour and nothing else towards the front of the park, I'd be more inclined to believe that the first projects would start back there (probably with the removal of LMA) and that Indy would be spared until a large capacity ride/land was built where the tour and LMA are/were. Tough to say...
Star Wars can be built without doing anything to Indy today, tomorrow, or ten years from now. Depending on which "proposed location of the Star Wars project" you're referencing, it's likely wildly inaccurate.
 

doctornick

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I'm not a LMA fan, but like Indy, it's a "crowd eater". Seems like half the park streams out of those bleachers when it lets out. They'll have something else in place before shuttering it.

Agreed, especially with all of the other things that have been closed. I initially thought that they would rapidly add TSPL within a year or so (say, late 2015) and then they would close LMA once TSPL was up and running. Then I envisioned that the LMA plot + Catastrophe Canyon would be used for an east coast version of Cars Land.
But with how slowly any work on the old Backlot Tour footprint, I'm skeptical of TSPL being opened any time soon.

It's tough to imagine them closing LMA without adding something, but this is TDO. They don't seem to care if a park can't actually handle the daily number of visitors effectively.
 

doctornick

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I can't imagine they would build a Star Wars land without a Star Wars themed epic stunt show. The question is the order that they do it in. As others have said, both Indy and LMA are HUGE crowd eaters, so I'd be surprised to see both shuttered at the same time while they work on two new lands. Given the proposed location of the Star Wars project, I guess they could keep the Indy seating area and just build a new set for the stunt show which (in theory) could keep closure time to a minimum. Given that they have already shuttered the back lot tour and nothing else towards the front of the park, I'd be more inclined to believe that the first projects would start back there (probably with the removal of LMA) and that Indy would be spared until a large capacity ride/land was built where the tour and LMA are/were. Tough to say...

A Star Wars themed stunt show sounds like an awful idea. If their goal is to move away from the "working studio" premise and make a fully immersive Star Wars land (which I hope is the goal) then any sort of "backstage" concept won't work as part of the land.

Now, if they want to keep the Indy stunt show or LMA or have something similar, they can do that in a "backstage magic" section of the park. But it should be separate from any immersive area they plan to "take you into the movies".
 

CaptainAmerica

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It's tough to imagine them closing LMA without adding something, but this is TDO. They don't seem to care if a park can't actually handle the daily number of visitors effectively.
There are fair criticisms to be made, but I don't think that's one of them. WDW's #1 over-arching business strategy is to keep you in the Disney bubble at all costs (see DME, DDP, DTD/DS, etc.). Critical to that objective is keeping you busy and/or exhausted for five or six days (the "sweet spot" for the family of four that comes every couple to five years). Any park perceived to be a "half-day" park is something that inches you towards renting a car, staying off property, visiting Potterland, eating at Applebees, etc. Avatar and the looming DHS expansion can really be viewed as one massive half-day-to-full-day conversion project.
 

Monoblanco13

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I really wonder what is keeping them from starting work on TSPL other that the recently closed Frozen shop being used for Darth's mall during SWW they have no reason not to start where the backlot tour is. Quite honestly I hope some of the rumored attractions are not coming like the RC Racer concept, just sound a little dull. As for Indy I do eventually see it being removed and possibly replaced with a Star Wars show; but quite honestly don't mind LMA going the way of the Dodo. I will be in the parks next week and will have no problem missing LMA, which unfortunately also goes for MV3D.
 

Bocabear

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There are fair criticisms to be made, but I don't think that's one of them. WDW's #1 over-arching business strategy is to keep you in the Disney bubble at all costs (see DME, DDP, DTD/DS, etc.). Critical to that objective is keeping you busy and/or exhausted for five or six days (the "sweet spot" for the family of four that comes every couple to five years). Any park perceived to be a "half-day" park is something that inches you towards renting a car, staying off property, visiting Potterland, eating at Applebees, etc. Avatar and the looming DHS expansion can really be viewed as one massive half-day-to-full-day conversion project.
We all know they want us to stay on property...just seems like they are having trouble wanting to pay for the attractions to keep us on property... The construction projects are so far out...years and years...and all they seem will to add more of is meet and greets. I sure hope they stop hinting and start coming up with some real plans that we can get excited about...
 

jmmc

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Personally, I enjoy the LMA show. As much as a love WDW, I can only get there every two or three years at the most, so repeat viewing value doesn't mean as much to me when I have that much time between visits. And I think some leftover behind the scenes bits wouldn't be the worst idea to keep at the park, even when i it becomes "Disney's Hollywood Adventure" or whatever it'll actually be called. After all, the "real" Hollywood streets and theme will still hang around even if they refocus a bit.
 

CaptainAmerica

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We all know they want us to stay on property...just seems like they are having trouble wanting to pay for the attractions to keep us on property... The construction projects are so far out...years and years...and all they seem will to add more of is meet and greets. I sure hope they stop hinting and start coming up with some real plans that we can get excited about...
This all depends on who you're talking about when you say "us" and "we". If you mean "us" and "we" like the community on this and other message boards who follow Disney in the press and on social media, we'll never be satisfied with the timeline of things. If the modern fan community existed in 1959 and Walt tweeted something like "thinking about opening a second Disney park on the East Coast," the endless speculation and hand-wringing from that tweet to the grand opening in 1971 would have been agonizing. The vast (vast, vast, vast) majority of Disney guests have no clue that these projects are taking years and years because they don't follow them from start to finish.
 

Otterhead

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I sure hope they stop hinting and start coming up with some real plans that we can get excited about...
They've already announced a huge Star Wars expansion to DHS, but as it'll be very closely tied into the new movie(s), I doubt we'll get specifics before more is revealed about Episode VII.
 

Bocabear

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They've already announced a huge Star Wars expansion to DHS, but as it'll be very closely tied into the new movie(s), I doubt we'll get specifics before more is revealed about Episode VII.
they have not really officially announced much of anything,....they have hinted that Star Wars will have a bigger presence... they could easily open another Star Wars shop and snack bar and that would be" increasing" the presence... There is nothing officially known yet...just lots of speculation.
 

Otterhead

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...they have hinted that Star Wars will have a bigger presence...There is nothing officially known yet...just lots of speculation.
Not so much "hinted" as Bob Iger actually saying that Star Wars will have a huge presence in all Disney parks worldwide, and that Imagineering is developing a number of big attractions that are based on existing Star Wars films as well as the new trilogy. I'm not sure what else you'd want; descriptions of rides that don't exist yet based on movies that we don't know the plot of?
 

Goofnut1980

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Here is a a crazy question. Would Disney ever just close a park, vs keeping it fresh and adding new things to it?

Slowly close attractions until noone visits the park, them BAM, closed for good.
 

Otterhead

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No they haven't.
Er, okay, to be precise, they've announced a huge Star Wars expansion in all Disney parks, and given that DHS is their movie-tie-in park with Star Tours already in place as well as the home of Star Wars Weekends and the Training Academy, and tons of room for Star Wars stuff, it's kind of a given that it's going there.
 

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