Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[bwr827]

what about all the people that go to buy it and see sold out and have no clue about drops (prob 90% of the users buying it)? they will never buy it

Good - more for those who buy, then!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Good - more for those who buy, then!

Nope…

Not good. Buying bad products is never the “own” addicts claim it is

 

[bwr827]

yes, its terrible

As others have done, why don’t you share a recap of your park day using LLMP?

 

[TheMaxRebo]

as an example of use of LLMP, have a friend who was in the parks today - she has an AP so booked 3 days out. Started at MK then hopped to DHS then back to MK. In total was in the parks from 9:30am to 4pm ... left with a couple of LL booked and also didn't rope drop, so can still "sleep in a bit" and make it work

in total she did 11 attractions, 7 of which were utilizing LLMP, and included a lunch at the Hollywood Brown Derby and rode Tiana's with a BG. She said she "didn't go hard" as far as refreshing/phone use

I think that is pretty good use of the system and there is still 4 more hours of park time she didn't use and didn't rope drop

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

as an example of use of LLMP, have a friend who was in the parks today - she has an AP so booked 3 days out. Started at MK then hopped to DHS then back to MK. In total was in the parks from 9:30am to 4pm ... left with a couple of LL booked and also didn't rope drop, so can still "sleep in a bit" and make it work

in total she did 11 attractions, 7 of which were utilizing LLMP, and included a lunch at the Hollywood Brown Derby and rode Tiana's with a BG. She said she "didn't go hard" as far as refreshing/phone use

I think that is pretty good use of the system and there is still 4 more hours of park time she didn't use and didn't rope drop

How much?

 

[Splash4eva]

as an example of use of LLMP, have a friend who was in the parks today - she has an AP so booked 3 days out. Started at MK then hopped to DHS then back to MK. In total was in the parks from 9:30am to 4pm ... left with a couple of LL booked and also didn't rope drop, so can still "sleep in a bit" and make it work

in total she did 11 attractions, 7 of which were utilizing LLMP, and included a lunch at the Hollywood Brown Derby and rode Tiana's with a BG. She said she "didn't go hard" as far as refreshing/phone use

I think that is pretty good use of the system and there is still 4 more hours of park time she didn't use and didn't rope drop

All depends on what rides she was able to get… this is really not telling the entire story at all actually not even telling any part of the story

 

[Jrb1979]

as an example of use of LLMP, have a friend who was in the parks today - she has an AP so booked 3 days out. Started at MK then hopped to DHS then back to MK. In total was in the parks from 9:30am to 4pm ... left with a couple of LL booked and also didn't rope drop, so can still "sleep in a bit" and make it work

in total she did 11 attractions, 7 of which were utilizing LLMP, and included a lunch at the Hollywood Brown Derby and rode Tiana's with a BG. She said she "didn't go hard" as far as refreshing/phone use

I think that is pretty good use of the system and there is still 4 more hours of park time she didn't use and didn't rope drop

The system is also working due to low crowds right now. At 630 pm at MK the highest wait is Jungle Cruise at 50 minutes.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

All depends on what rides she was able to get… this is really not telling the entire story at all actually not even telling any part of the story

She did:
- omnibus
- HM
- Country bears
- Peoplemover
- buzz
- watched the friends parade
- BTMR
- WDWRR
* lunch at Brown Derby
- walt disney presents
- tsmm
- mmrr
- TBA
- pirates
- magic carpets

Left mk at 6pm - 4 hours before park closes. Only thing she didn't get that she was hoping to do was Slinky

 

[Splash4eva]

She did:
- omnibus
- HM
- Country bears
- Peoplemover
- buzz
- watched the friends parade
- BTMR
- WDWRR
* lunch at Brown Derby
- walt disney presents
- tsmm
- mmrr
- TBA
- pirates
- magic carpets

Left mk at 6pm - 4 hours before park closes. Only thing she didn't get that she was hoping to do was Slinky

Im talking about the rides she was able to “book”. Based on what you said she booked 7 & waited for 4…. Curious which 4 those were

 

[James Alucobond]

She did:
- omnibus
- HM
- Country bears
- Peoplemover
- buzz
- watched the friends parade
- BTMR
- WDWRR
* lunch at Brown Derby
- walt disney presents
- tsmm
- mmrr
- TBA
- pirates
- magic carpets

Left mk at 6pm - 4 hours before park closes. Only thing she didn't get that she was hoping to do was Slinky

It feels like maybe 4-5 of those total represent notable time savings from Multipass, assuming it was used to book them. Haunted Mansion, Runaway Railway, and Pirates for sure, maybe Midway Mania, Big Thunder, or Buzz depending on crowds. Bayou Adventure is still VQ, and the remainder are things I would never book under any circumstances unless there were literally no other options. Many are even shows or services that just run at set intervals.

 

[Splash4eva]

It feels like maybe 4-5 of those total represent notable time savings from Multipass, assuming it was used to book them. Haunted Mansion, Runaway Railway, and Pirates for sure, maybe Midway Mania, Big Thunder, or Buzz depending on crowds. Bayou Adventure is still VQ, and the remainder are things I would never book under any circumstances unless there were literally no other options. Many are even shows or services that just run at set intervals.

She booked 7 and waited for 4 of them. Im curious what the 4 were because im in agreement with yoi

 

[TheMaxRebo]

It feels like maybe 4-5 of those total represent notable time savings from Multipass, assuming it was used to book them. Haunted Mansion, Runaway Railway, and Pirates for sure, maybe Midway Mania, Big Thunder, or Buzz depending on crowds. Bayou Adventure is still VQ, and the remainder are things I would never book under any circumstances unless there were literally no other options. Many are even shows or services that just run at set intervals.

Yeah, and 4-5 sounds about right ... More than the 2-3 Disney guided people to as expectations for G+. For staying off property and not trying hard and leaving with 4 hours left in the day, 4-5 good uses seems like what an average person can expect and would be happy with

As for time savings I see she mentioned Pirates when she scanned in was posted at 25mins, MMRR was 40mins, TSM was 50mins, BTMRR was 50mins Buzz was 30mins

She didn't mention any others, but even just those 5 is over 3 hours if savings

 

[James Alucobond]

... More than the 2-3 Disney guided people to as expectations for G+. For staying off property and not trying hard and leaving with 4 hours left in the day, 4-5 good uses seems like what an average person can expect and would be happy with

Again, not a fan of any of these services, but there was no way you were only getting 3 out of Genie+ on a normal day, particularly if you were resigning yourself to getting attractions of a quality commensurate with the lower tiers of Multipass. I would personally not be happy with the value if this were my outcome.

 

[Tha Realest]

Noonish check on 7/31 (first day people were able to book 7 days in advance!)

Ride	Normal return time	Best return time within the 5 refreshes
Big Thunder	Sold out
Buzz	4:35pm
HM	8:25pm
Jungle Cruise	Sold out
Pooh	8:35pm
Pirates	5:20pm	1:55pm
SM	6:20pm	5:30pm
Tiana	Sold out
Frozen	Sold out
MS	8:30pm
Remy	Sold out
MMRR	3:45pm
MFSR	2:45pm
RnRC	7:00pm	4:30pm
SDD	Sold out
TSMM	Sold out	2:40pm
ToT	Sold out	8:15pm
EE	1:40pm
Kali	4:50pm
Navi	4:55pm

Live look at 7-day Genie availability:

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

Again, not a fan of any of these services, but there was no way you were only getting 3 out of Genie+ on a normal day, particularly if you were resigning yourself to getting attractions of a quality commensurate with the lower tiers of Multipass. I would personally not be happy with the value if this were my outcome.

To be really honest I find it hard in general to justify the cost of both Genie+ and LLMP during times of year like this when because you can’t repeat attractions and because the biggest time savers are in their own separate paid tier (LLSP), you’ve got to use your LL bookings on attractions that barely need it in order to use it ‘enough’. I think if we’re honest with ourselves most reports from Genie+ and now LLMP include uses that are doing nothing but bumping up the quantity used.

It’s a big problem I have with the system being paywalled at all but I suppose it’s been years and I should probably get over it lol.

 

[GoofGoof]

I liked Maxpass, should I be vehemently arguing for its return?

Yes….yes you should

I think maybe some of the people complaining here should actually try DLR. If you visit at off peak crowd times you really don’t need a skip the line product anyway for any but the super headliners (like Universal in FL).

 

[James Alucobond]

To be really honest I find it hard in general to justify the cost of both Genie+ and LLMP during times of year like this when because you can’t repeat attractions and because the biggest time savers are in their own separate paid tier (LLSP), you’ve got to use your LL bookings on attractions that barely need it in order to use it ‘enough’. I think if we’re honest with ourselves most reports from Genie+ and now LLMP include uses that are doing nothing but bumping up the quantity used.

It’s a big problem I have with the system being paywalled at all but I suppose it’s been years and I should probably get over it lol.

Genie+ at least had niche utility even on low-traffic days if you wanted to enjoy a lazy morning and then absolutely stack your afternoon by packing together all of your selections as they became available. A decent way to both enjoy your resort and a leisurely breakfast while condensing the time necessary to hammer through everything in a park.

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

I'm going to give everyone here my super secret strategy since we're all friends. Buy whatever line skip they are selling for MK and make a full day of it. The other 3 parks...get there mid to late afternoon and ride everything standby. 1pm for Epcot if you want a Guardians VQ. Save the headliners till right before park close then hop in line.

 

[bwr827]

Any Canadians try purchasing and selecting rides from Canada yet?

 

[C33Mom]

to try and sell hotel rooms but it will 100% backfire because it actually PENALIZES resort guests who dont rope drop, which is 90% of resort guests.......

you will see...this wont last 3 months

I would be surprised if they scrap it in 3mo, but our family will likely be visiting WDW less until they come up with the next iteration. I didn’t love the 7AM wake for G+, but I’m still waking for the VQ and now (instead of setting an alarm for 1m before 2h after park open), I’m going to need to wake my kids and be out of the hotel around park open to have a shot at more than 2 quality LLMPs in most parks. More of a gauntlet than a vacation for me.

Mine is get rid of LLMP and expand LLSP a bit - maybe 10-12 rides across all 4 parks

Omnimover and other high capacity rides really don't need a LL. Let those lines just continuously move

And then people can pick and choice what LLSP are worth it to them to skip the longer, slower moving lines

Love this idea. Especially if you could book the LLSPs more than once a day (the way you can in TDR).

I do think between G+ and DAS, a lot of the “people eaters” became 20-30+ minute waits and it makes the park so much more grueling if your only options are G+/LLMP or waiting 30m plus for all attractions.

FWIW, we did the resort booking 7 days out (for 4 night stay) at 4AM today, and actually had great availability everywhere except day 7 (Epcot is truly terrible with LLMP generally), day 8 we got 2 good returns (and muppets for that early tap) before 11:30 at DHS, day 9- 3 good rides before 11AM at AK, Day 10, could have had 3 rides before noon at MK (including Tiana) except that we had Toppolino’s blocking a chunk of the AM, and day 11, another 3 good rides at DHS. Now I just have to get everybody out of the hotel room at an hour we’d rather be sleeping 3 of the 4 mornings of our trip.

Incidentally, the hardest thing to book was an end of the day LLSP for Tron on day 7, I worked backwards from day 11 and by the time I got there all the returns after about 7:45 were gone.